Age of Ruin OOC: The final battle

[Toliudar]

both miss.

Draven will charge attack Govan, as per Ismal's instruction, and given that his current opponent is inside a giant golden ball. (too bad he won't suffocate like in the Superman movie with the plastic bubble)

Sorry to take away your dance partner, but I figured you'd have more fun bashing the nasty Davethran nobility.

Oh, and Ozzy - what language are the shouts coming in? Knowing what they're saying would of course be helpful, but just the language might tell me all I need to know.

[Ozzy_G]

So yeah, fort save for Draven?
Remember that Kaleff, as he delayed, can act whenever he feels like it.

[knewsom]

fort save (1d20+16)[19] (including +2 from good hope and +2 from prot. from evil) edit:

[Lycar]

Okay. If Orin totally ignores any AoO coming his way, can he move, pull out the whip/scourge (15' reach, remember?) and try a last, desperate Disarm against Azakan?

Lycar

[Ozzy_G]

Okay. If Orin totally ignores any AoO coming his way, can he move, pull out the whip/scourge (15' reach, remember?) and try a last, desperate Disarm against Azakan?

If you don't mind being stabbed by a Dwarf, sure.
Okay, Kaleff's go, he can take 2 if he really wants, then Orin then Ismal.

[knewsom]

He turned me into a frog????

best... saving throw failure...... EVER...!

...can I still use line of acid?

PS: does this mean Govan's a "Croak"amancer?

[Ozzy_G]

Congratulations on your amphibious state, Knewsom.
And I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you can't use line of acid. Your lungs are too small you know.

[Lycar]

Well, now you officially claim to once have been frogged by an evil archmage.

... maybe it's a dragonfrog or something...

And yes, Orin to the rescues! Damn the torpedoes bearded midgets dwarves!

Lycar

[knewsom]

do I get "favored enemy: fly" now?

[Toliudar]

Hmm. So much for sending the elephant trampling towards Govan, and assuming that you'd be able to handle the damage.

[TRUMPET rumble rumble rumble rumble....squish.]

Brilliant and funny. So sorry, Knewsom! We'll get it dispelled, honest!

Edit: Oh, wait! You keep your own hit points. Let's do it anyway!

[Lycar]

Congratulations on your amphibious state, Knewsom.
And I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you can't use line of acid. Your lungs are too small you know.

Hmm... if this was 'Baleful Polymorph'....

Says here: 'If the spell succeeds, the subject must also make a Will save. If this second save fails, the creature loses it's extraordinary, supernatural and spell-like abilities, loses it's ability to cast spells (if it had the ability), and gains the alignement, special abilities, and Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores of its new form in place of its own. ...'

Doesn't explicitly say what happens if he does make his will save.

But come on, can you resist the temptation of an acid-spewing frog?

Lycar

[Toliudar]

So that was:

Standard action: activating the marble elephant underneath her so that she ends up "riding" it. Not sure what the combination of prone and on top of an elephant means, but it's not going to be comfortable.

Elephant: Trampling everything in his path (possibly including Draven - sorry, hon!), and rolling over Govan and Whatsisname Wattleboy. Everything Large or smaller in his path takes (2d8+15)[24] bludgeoning damage, DC 25 reflex for half. I'm fairly sure that this will involve the blubbery things, but am not totally clear on current locations.

As the elephant passes over/past Draven, Ismal will use her move action to dismount. This might be construed as requiring a DC 15 Ride Check (1d20+1)[16] to avoid taking (1d6)[5] damage - let me know if you think so, Ozzy.

WOO HOO! Heckofa way to inaugurate this critter in combat.

[Ozzy_G]

Says here: 'If the spell succeeds, the subject must also make a Will save. If this second save fails, the creature loses it's extraordinary, supernatural and spell-like abilities, loses it's ability to cast spells (if it had the ability), and gains the alignement, special abilities, and Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores of its new form in place of its own. ...'

I think you must be looking at an old version. It is one of those spells that has had a lot of revisions.

This is the current system (and the one I'm using, from the SRD):

You change the subject into a Small or smaller animal of no more than 1 HD (such as a dog, lizard, monkey, or toad). The subject takes on all the statistics and special abilities of an average member of the new form in place of its own except as follows:

* The target retains its own alignment (and personality, within the limits of the new form’s ability scores).
* The target retains its own hit points.
* The target is treated has having its normal Hit Dice for purpose of adjudicating effects based on HD, such as the sleep spell, though it uses the new form’s base attack bonus, base save bonuses, and all other statistics derived from Hit Dice.
* The target also retains the ability to understand (but not to speak) the languages it understood in its original form. It can write in the languages it understands, but only the form is capable of writing in some manner (such as drawing in the dirt with a paw).

With those exceptions, the target’s normal game statistics are replaced by those of the new form. The target loses all the special abilities it has in its normal form, including its class features.

All items worn or carried by the subject fall to the ground at its feet, even if they could be worn or carried by the new form.

If the new form would prove fatal to the creature (for example, if you polymorphed a landbound target into a fish, or an airborne target into a toad), the subject gets a +4 bonus on the save.

If the subject remains in the new form for 24 consecutive hours, it must attempt a Will save. If this save fails, it loses its ability to understand language, as well as all other memories of its previous form, and its Hit Dice and hit points change to match an average creature of its new form. These abilities and statistics return to normal if the effect is later ended.

Incorporeal or gaseous creatures are immune to baleful polymorph, and a creature with the shapechanger subtype (such as a lycanthrope or a doppelganger) can revert to its natural form as a standard action (which ends the spell’s effect).

The blubbery things (the Dretches) won't be hit because they've moved out of the way and onto the steps.

reflex for Emorik - (d20+7)[12]
reflex for Govan - (d20+14)[21]

[Toliudar]

So, since Govan is a higher level caster than Ismal, the only reliable way to get Draven back into a bipedal context would be through Polymorph. Any requests on the specific race?

Human is an obvious choice, but - depending on Ozzy's whim - he'll be naked, so something with natural armour and/or natural attacks might be useful. Lizardfolk are almost like dragons...

[knewsom]

how about a minotaur?

and woo-hoo! I retain my HP! glorious, glorious HP!

edit: and uh, what would the reflex saving throw bonus be for a 11th level frog..?

[Ozzy_G]

Opposed disarm then for Azakan.
(d20+2)[9]
Come on natural 20!

Well, Draven's stuff is all there, on the ground. He can just pick up his shield and weapon.
You don't have to use Polymorph, you can just dispel the effect, if you roll well. Though I can't remember if you actually have dispel. I think Kaleff might do, but that depends if he's prepared it.
In combat though, you are probably better off with polymorph.
Oh, and a word of advice: if you turn him into a dragon or something, take him out of his armour first.

[Ozzy_G]

Okay, coming out of the corridor, you are also going to trample the dwarven cleric, so I'll roll for him too, and the priestess.
(d20+4)[20]
(d20+7)[26]

[Ozzy_G]

Okay, coming out of the corridor, you are also going to trample the dwarven cleric, so I'll roll for him too, and the priestess.
(d20+4)[19]
(d20+7)[15]

I will need a reflex save for Orin, DC 16, against a (8d6)[25] lightning bolt.

[Ozzy_G]

Right, Azakan's attack on Orin.
touch attack - (d20+10)[20]
fire damage - (10d6+10)[38]

It's now Draven's go. Don't know if he wants to do anything.
And of course, Kaleff can act at any time.

[knewsom]

not much I can do, except be the toughest damn frog in the universe.

When Ismal bends down to get him, Draven will hop into her hands and eye Lamb warily.

[Toliudar]

how about a minotaur?

and woo-hoo! I retain my HP! glorious, glorious HP!

edit: and uh, what would the reflex saving throw bonus be for a 11th level frog..?

Sadly, I think your reflex save, RAW, is +3. Assuming that frogs have the same stats as toads.

And if you're going to dive away from medium sized, why not go all the way? Cave Troll! Huge strength and con (helping with fortitude saves, in case we get into a polymorph war), and natural attacks so that you don't have to use an undersized weapon.

[knewsom]

cave troll works for me...

[The Great Skenardo]

Assuming they exist. Besides, I thought the Cave Troll had more than 11 HD?

[Ozzy_G]

Sadly, I think your reflex save, RAW, is +3. Assuming that frogs have the same stats as toads.

They do indeed.
Cave trolls do exist in the setting. Though the HD issue stands.

[The Great Skenardo]

Also; Is Orin dead?

EDIT: Also also...people are still brandishing ritual knives. Is this not a matter of concern?

[Toliudar]

Assuming they exist. Besides, I thought the Cave Troll had more than 11 HD?

You're thinking of war trolls, perhaps, which do indeed have twelve hit dice. Cave Trolls are 9 hit dice. Relevant to this discussion, they are also:
Strength: 29
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 27
Natural Armour: +11

You'll have lost your lovely armour, but the protection from evil, haste and good hope will at least still be active on you.

Casting Defensively check (1d20+16)[25]

Oh, and trample damage again for the elephant (nothing in the trample ability indicates that the double movement has to be in one direction, so trampling forward and back seems to work): (2d8+15)[24]. Again, reflex save DC 25 for half. And the elephant should now be in a flanking position for draven, if that's helpful.

[Toliudar]

Also; Is Orin dead?

EDIT: Also also...people are still brandishing ritual knives. Is this not a matter of concern?

VERY concerned about both those. I just don't have anything that can reliably help with Azakan in one round, and am waiting to hear about Orin. If he's unconscious, she may be able to help in a round, but is rather hoping that the priestess might feel inclined to assist there.

Of course, if I've forgotten about other characters' actions that would change Ismal's choices (eg the Priestess dispels the baleful polymorph or spontaneously turns into Gothul), I'm happy to be negated. I'm heading off computer for about 8 hours, and wanted to slip in one more update, if I could.

[knewsom]

...werent' there approaching footsteps that would turn out to be either enemies or allies...?


...and what about Kaleff? Surely he should be able to do something about this.

I suppose one of us could just go ahead and kill the sacrifice before they do, but that's a pretty evil thing to do.


Edit: oh and Toli, there's also always a Bone Devil, ya know, for future reference.

[Toliudar]

...werent' there approaching footsteps that would turn out to be either enemies or allies...?


...and what about Kaleff? Surely he should be able to do something about this.

I suppose one of us could just go ahead and kill the sacrifice before they do, but that's a pretty evil thing to do.

Plus, killing the sacrifice did zilch last time we tried it.

[The Great Skenardo]

You can't change into outsiders with Polymorph. Nice try, though.

Plus, killing the sacrifice did zilch last time we tried it.

This made me laugh for reasons I won't go in to.