My Little Pony L: The L is for Love!

[OracleofWuffing]

Are... are you people doing this ON PURPOSE!?!?

Clearly not.

You know, 'cause they're ponies and all.

[Pokonic]

Ho, ponythread!

I have returnethéd!



I dread to think what messes you lot have managed to get yourselves into this time (your track record being left unsupervised by me is not very good, is it?) Dare I ask how you have managed to cause catastrophy this time?

Any other news would be useful, if only so as I know not to put my boney boot in it by mistake...



There is a slim possibility there may be Humorous Pictures later, though that depends on whether they actually came out, as I was in something of a hurry.

Canterlot has a smokeing hole in the center of it like a donut, Boffenspark
has been exiled from pony lands and has holed up inside the fire realm, Silent is being stupid again, Thubby is being Thubby, Starry Notions is screwing up other ponies plans, Nightcore has given up the cult and is plotting taking over equestria with her marefriend, and a new prince is in town and is at least part dragon.

Ehh, it's not that bad, realy.

[Kd7sov]

"Fear not the psyker" (Dawn Of War 1+2)
"A man with no fear cannot be brave. He is also a fool." (Dawn of War Custom Map description)
"Look out, sir!" (Unit rule in the tabletop)
"Destroying [a demon] is the only way to avoid it's influences" - Gabriel Angelos, captain of the blood ravens
"The freedom of Chaos is a lie." (Paraphrased from Inquisitor sayings)
"[Giant Space Bugs] are a much greater threat to the imperium [than robot skeletons]" - Paraphrased from Tarkus
"Beware the Alien" -Every imperial ever

You claim these are pieces of good advice. The second, fourth, fifth, and sixth are not what I would usually consider advice. Certainly they are things of which someone can be advised, but they don't, of themselves, suggest things to do or not do.

Edit: Speaking of advice... Bleakbane, have you ever left without announcing it first? Perhaps it's not so much that things go bad when you're gone as that things go bad when you're known to be gone.

[Forum Explorer]

... ... ... ?

As opposed to what other kind?

To dressing up as liquor of course!

*looks at very first post above his return post, sees SiuiS apologising for apparent prior Ponythread Drama which has, once again, gone down the second Bleakbane isn't there to cudgel ponythread into some semblance of order.

AGAIN.*

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...

*eyeglow twitch*

*eyeglow twitch*

Uh-oh.



Are... are you people doing this ON PURPOSE!?!?

Ye gods, I... I just... Seriously?!?!

I...cannot...for five minutes...!

*skulldesk*

*skulldesk*

*skulldesk*

The funny thing is that it always seems to wrap itself up by the time you return.

Also haven't you destroyed your desk yet? By erosion if by nothing else?

[Siosilvar]

*Smashes head against desk to the point of bleeding.*

Well, I feel terrible. Would you like to know why?

Because this just popped up, and 83% of my fanon regarding the geography of Equestria is now inaccurate.

"Neighagra" instead of "Neighagara" (which is pronounced the same way ). Interesting choice.

In any case, Equestria being the USA does seems to have been correct; the map is vaguely recognizable as an extremely distorted map of the US (with mountains instead of Canada, except for Vancouver).

EDIT: By Celestia's beard this is amazing!

Spoiler

Show

Looking at that, all I can think of is Tron.

I dread to think what messes you lot have managed to get yourselves into this time (your track record being left unsupervised by me is not very good, is it?) Dare I ask how you have managed to cause catastrophy this time?

Boffinspark renounced Princess Celestia.

...

Yeah, that definitely counts.

[Kurgan]

*Smashes head against desk to the point of bleeding.*

Well, I feel terrible. Would you like to know why?

Because this just popped up, and 83% of my fanon regarding the geography of Equestria is now inaccurate.

"Neighagra" instead of "Neighagara" (which is pronounced the same way ). Interesting choice.

In any case, Equestria being the USA does seems to have been correct; the map is vaguely recognizable as an extremely distorted map of the US (with mountains instead of Canada, except for Vancouver).

Come now, we all know Canada is a frozen wasteland nopony could live in! Though it looks like the Crystal Ponies are Equestria's equivalent to Canadians based on the Crystal Mountains to the north...

Anyone else reminded of the Discworld? One giant mountain in the center where the gods dwell versus one giant mountain in the middle where the Princess (who raises and sets the sun) dwells?

Also...how big is Equestria then? Ponyville is about in the direct center of it, but we know Applejack can pretty much see Ponyville from Manehatten, due to her watching the rainboom lead straight to it. Considering there is Canterlot [bit giant mountain] and a full mountain range between the two....

Don't know why, I am just seeing Equestria as a kind of small island state now, like say if Cyprus happened to have similar geography to the United States.

[Lix Lorn]

"Fear not the psyker" (Dawn Of War 1+2)
"A man with no fear cannot be brave. He is also a fool." (Dawn of War Custom Map description)
"Look out, sir!" (Unit rule in the tabletop)
"Destroying [a demon] is the only way to avoid it's influences" - Gabriel Angelos, captain of the blood ravens
"The freedom of Chaos is a lie." (Paraphrased from Inquisitor sayings)
"[Giant Space Bugs] are a much greater threat to the imperium [than robot skeletons]" - Paraphrased from Tarkus
"Beware the Alien" -Every imperial ever

That's seven pieces of good advice =P Don't be afraid of the guy who can melt your insides if he's on your side, don't be completely unafraid, don't let bullets hit you, don't listen to lieing malevolent beings from beyond reality itself, doing things just because you can is completely meaningless (and often evil), extra galactic system-devourers are a bigger threat than robot skeletons because they eat more, and if humanity meets an alien race that's significantly more advanced than us the outcome will not be good.

I disregard the penultimate and disagree with the final. If you distrust aliens on principle, of COURSE things will stay pear shaped.
The tyranid one is silly because the GW view on tyranids recently seems to be 'Good things for EVERYONE! Except tyranids. Because *@~? tyranids.'

Never before I have so empathised with this sentiment.

...guess what film I am watching at this EXACT MOMENT.

Come now, we all know Canada is a frozen wasteland nopony could live in!

NO
IF YOU DIE IN CANADA
YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE

[Tvtyrant]

Come now, we all know Canada is a frozen wasteland nopony could live in! Though it looks like the Crystal Ponies are Equestria's equivalent to Canadians based on the Crystal Mountains to the north...

Anyone else reminded of the Discworld? One giant mountain in the center where the gods dwell versus one giant mountain in the middle where the Princess (who raises and sets the sun) dwells?

Also...how big is Equestria then? Ponyville is about in the direct center of it, but we know Applejack can pretty much see Ponyville from Manehatten, due to her watching the rainboom lead straight to it. Considering there is Canterlot [bit giant mountain] and a full mountain range between the two....

Don't know why, I am just seeing Equestria as a kind of small island state now, like say if Cyprus happened to have similar geography to the United States.

I don't know, Equestria is likely flat and as such would not have a horizon. With no horizon it could be possibly that the sonic rainboom was visible quite a ways away.

[Deadly]

My immediate response is to say 'killing', which says a lot about my gut feeling. >_>

Yeah, but 'killing' is too broad. It covers accidental killings and also moral killings (if you accept such a thing) ... pretty much any kind of someone or something dying because of someone or something else. Death due to old age even, "old age killed him" might make sense but you couldn't really call it immoral

Don't know why, I am just seeing Equestria as a kind of small island state now, like say if Cyprus happened to have similar geography to the United States.

My first thought was that it's the US relocated to England (and then Canada would be Scotland), but England is probably still much too big.

[Kd7sov]

*looks at the map*

All right. White Tail Wood is highly problematic. Also, if Smokey Mountain is the one with the dragon, things don't make any sense.

You see: Canterlot, in "MMMystery on the Friendship Express", is an overnight trip followed by at least one tunnel away from Ponyville. By train, which presumably moves faster on average than a pony on foot. Contrariwise, in "Dragonshy", Twilight speaks of getting up the mountain - not just to it - before nightfall. It is doubtful, given what we see previously in that episode, that they started in the early morning.

[Forum Explorer]

*looks at the map*

All right. White Tail Wood is highly problematic. Also, if Smokey Mountain is the one with the dragon, things don't make any sense.

You see: Canterlot, in "MMMystery on the Friendship Express", is an overnight trip followed by at least one tunnel away from Ponyville. By train, which presumably moves faster on average than a pony on foot. Contrariwise, in "Dragonshy", Twilight speaks of getting up the mountain - not just to it - before nightfall. It is doubtful, given what we see previously in that episode, that they started in the early morning.

VICTORY IS OURS!


By the way read Yours Truly again and it's still amazing.


@Lixie: Are you sure? The new rules seemed the be pretty good for Tyrnids overall.

[Deadly]

*looks at the map*

All right. White Tail Wood is highly problematic. Also, if Smokey Mountain is the one with the dragon, things don't make any sense.

You see: Canterlot, in "MMMystery on the Friendship Express", is an overnight trip followed by at least one tunnel away from Ponyville. By train, which presumably moves faster on average than a pony on foot. Contrariwise, in "Dragonshy", Twilight speaks of getting up the mountain - not just to it - before nightfall. It is doubtful, given what we see previously in that episode, that they started in the early morning.

In 'It's About Time' Rainbow Dash says her team reports all clear from Fillydelphia to Los Pegasus. Assuming she sent out two teams in opposite directions this means a pegasus can fly across half of Equestria's width in what appears to be a few hours.

Conclusion: Equestria is TINY!

[Maxtronaut]

In 'It's About Time' Rainbow Dash says her team reports all clear from Fillydelphia to Los Pegasus. Assuming she sent out two teams in opposite directions this means a pegasus can fly across half of Equestria's width in what appears to be a few hours.

Conclusion: Equestria is TINY!

*Skulldesk until bleeding once more.*

Does anyone notice that little sentence in the lower right corner that say NOT TO SCALE?!

[Deadly]

*Skulldesk until bleeding once more.*

Does anyone notice that little sentence in the lower right corner that say NOT TO SCALE?!

Yes, but this is not based on the distances on the map, if you'll notice. This is based on the show and the relative locations (not distances) of two cities on the map. Even if it's not to scale, a pegasus can still apparently fly across Equestria in mere hours, which means day-long train rides make no sense.

[Tiki Snakes]

I disregard the penultimate and disagree with the final. If you distrust aliens on principle, of COURSE things will stay pear shaped.

Question;
Which Alien would Lix trust?
(In 40k).

Yes, but this is not based on the distances on the map, if you'll notice. This is based on the show and the locations (not distances) of two cities on the map. Even if it's not to scale, a pegasus can still apparently fly across Equestria in mere hours, which means day-long train rides make no sense.

Caution!
Map Not To Scale! Canon.

[Pokonic]

*Skulldesk until bleeding once more.*

Does anyone notice that little sentence in the lower right corner that say NOT TO SCALE?!

Oh, hush, it still means that a pegusi could fly across the sky for a day and nearly make it to one end of the island to another.

[Aotrs Commander]

In 'It's About Time' Rainbow Dash says her team reports all clear from Fillydelphia to Los Pegasus. Assuming she sent out two teams in opposite directions this means a pegasus can fly across half of Equestria's width in what appears to be a few hours.

Conclusion: Equestria is TINY!

Y'know, apart from the fact that pegasus speeds range at the upper end into Mach numbers, and I doubt RD is five times as fast as the average pony. If we assume a low estimate of just over Mach 1 for her rainboom (and I project personally that it was more like the upper estimates of Mach four or five), and assume that Pegasus ponies are capable of only a tenth that speed - that's still about 75mph, which in, say, five hours is nearly four hundred miles. Even if they only flew for about two hours each way (and it's hard to believe they would go less than that), it still makes Equestria larger than the UK; while not continental size, it's hardly tiny, by any stretch of the imagination.

Upper estimates could easily put those sort of distances up five times, making Equestria enormous...

But that is really besides the point, however, as I think that, despite the canonistic nature of the map, I don't beleive it to be accurate enough for serious judging of scale - it's hardly of a cartographic quality, when all's said and done. It looks like what it is, a children's map of a land, wherein the details are simplified; in roughly the right places, but not necessarily to scale, and, in the event, of no more use in judging concrete distances (as I'm sure a fairly trivial estimation of time and motion across the series would prove) than the stylised maps of Eternia that appeared in my old He-Man books that came with the tapes. D&D-style world maps they are not, let alone OS survey maps, and I should treat them with a grain of salt.

Edit: Thank you, Maxtronaut, I could have sworn I saw that note somewhere, and then missed it on my second look to confirm; it clearly isn't an accurate map, so we can only really draw broad inferances from it.

Also haven't you destroyed your desk yet? By erosion if by nothing else?

Well, Aotrs consoles are hardened and damage resistant...mostly. I mean, they don't explode with showers of sparks like in Star Trek or something when you lightly sneeze at 'em.

On the other hand, we have had to replace Bleakbane's console a couple of times since he started coming here...

Canterlot has a smokeing hole in the center of it like a donut, Boffenspark
has been exiled from pony lands and has holed up inside the fire realm, Silent is being stupid again, Thubby is being Thubby, Starry Notions is screwing up other ponies plans, Nightcore has given up the cult and is plotting taking over equestria with her marefriend, and a new prince is in town and is at least part dragon.

Ehh, it's not that bad, realy.

Boffinspark renounced Princess Celestia.

...

Yeah, that definitely counts.

...

*skulldesk*

And probably will again shortly...

Edit: Speaking of advice... Bleakbane, have you ever left without announcing it first? Perhaps it's not so much that things go bad when you're gone as that things go bad when you're known to be gone.

Tempting as it is for me to lie about going away and then jump on you all when you least expect it and pummel you all senseless with the heavy end of my rocket launcher, I...

...actually, I don't see a downside to this plan.

...guess what film I am watching at this EXACT MOMENT.

I would have though this convegeance of thought would have filled me with more terror than it does. I think the repeated impacts to my skull my have had some interesting side annex on my ability to flibble coherent badgers.

*facepalm*

[Maxtronaut]

Oh, hush, it still means that a pegusi could fly across the sky for a day and nearly make it to one end of the island to another.

IT'S NOT AN ISLAND!

[Kd7sov]

*Skulldesk until bleeding once more.*

Does anyone notice that little sentence in the lower right corner that say NOT TO SCALE?!

Thing is. I could deal with the sizes of towns and so on being not to scale. But it specifically says distances are not to scale. In which case your angles are wrong, which makes your shapes very iffy at best.

So, we can maybe draw some broad inferences - like that there's Equestria on all sides of Canterlot - but not much more.

IT'S NOT AN ISLAND!

Indeed? It's not a whole island, certainly, but do you know that the edges out of sight either connect to each other or extend far enough to qualify it for continent status?

[Deadly]

Y'know, apart from the fact that pegasus speeds range at the upper end into Mach numbers, and I doubt RD is five times as fast as the average pony. If we assume a low estimate of just over Mach 1 for her rainboom (and I project personally that it was more like the upper estimates of Mach four or five), and assume that Pegasus ponies are capable of only a tenth that speed - that's still about 75mph, which in, say, five hours is nearly four hundred miles. Even if they only flew for about two hours each way (and it's hard to believe they would go less than that), it still makes Equestria larger than the UK; while not continental size, it's hardly tiny, by any stretch of the imagination.

Upper estimates could easily put those sort of distances up five times, making Equestria enormous...

But that is really besides the pnoint, however, as I think that, despite the canonistic nature of the map, I don't beleive it to be accurate enough for serious judging of scale - it's hardly of a cartographic quality, when all's said and done. It looks like what it is, a children's map of a land, wherein the details are simplified; in roughly the right places, but not necessarily to scale, and, in the event, of no more use in judging concrete distances (as I'm sure a fairly trivial estimation of time and motion across the series would prove) than the stylised maps of Eternia that appeared in my old He-Man books that came with the tapes. D&D-style world maps they are not, let alone OS survey maps, and I should treat them with a grain of salt.

True enough, we shouldn't take the map (or for that matter the show) too seriously.

That said, it's still odd that they have trains that take a day to get to Canterlot or Apploosa, when a pony can run or fly the same distance in hours or less (remember also the running of the leaves).

And I doubt Dash's team was flying at their top speed, or even close to it, when they were out searching Equestria. They also had to stop frequently and probably didn't take anything close to the direct path, because they had to check everything.

[Maxtronaut]

Indeed? It's not a whole island, certainly, but do you know that the edges out of sight either connect to each other or extend far enough to qualify it for continent status?

I just highly doubt that if Equestria is in fact an Island, they wouldn't just leave part of it off. That's like making a map of Florida, and cutting off the top chunk.

[Forum Explorer]

IT'S NOT AN ISLAND!

Look at things big enough and everything's an island

[Lix Lorn]

@Lixie: Are you sure? The new rules seemed the be pretty good for Tyrnids overall.

Dark Eldar get allies. Necrons get allies. Chaos get allies.
Tyranids? NOPE.
Plus their last codex wasn't great... too much stuff that is shiny but useless, and they nerfed the carnifex to sell more trygons.

Question;
Which Alien would Lix trust?
(In 40k).

I find I can usually trust the mon-keigh to do as I predict.
Die gloriously, usually.

I would have though this convegeance of thought would have filled me with more terror than it does. I think the repeated impacts to my skull my have had some interesting side annex on my ability to flibble coherent badgers.

*facepalm*

Quick! Put his underpants on his head and stick pencils up his nose!

Do liches even wear underpants?

[Aotrs Commander]

That said, it's still odd that they have trains that take a day to get to Canterlot or Apploosa, when a pony can run or fly the same distance in hours or less (remember also the running of the leaves).

That's easy to answer; simply for increased cargo capacity and lesser effort. Just because you can walk somewhere, doesn't mean you always want to (especially if you're going to be doing something afterwards or are on holiday or something).

And I doubt Dash's team was flying at their top speed, or even close to it, when they were out searching Equestria. They also had to stop frequently and probably didn't take anything close to the direct path, because they had to check everything.

Oh, I'm not suggesting Equestria is enormous - I'd be hard pressed to believe it was anything like, say, the size of the continental US - but that even taking into account low-end estimates, it's hardly "tiny". I'd personally reckon it to be perhaps larger than the UK, more towards some of the slightly larger European countries, but probably not a continent in and of itself. (Mostly because what we've seen of the logistics would seem to indicate that controlling and administrating a larger place could be quite difficult.) It even might be that the "cities" we've heard of more resemble city-states. But I don't think Equestria is a particularly large nation, at least in terms of populace, though.

[Tiki Snakes]

I find I can usually trust the mon-keigh to do as I predict.
Die gloriously, usually.

Not Eldar Quote.
Good Reason to beware those Aliens.

[Deadly]

That's easy to answer; simply for increased cargo capacity and lesser effort. Just because you can walk somewhere, doesn't mean you always want to (especially if you're going to be doing something afterwards or are on holiday or something).

Yes, but why does it take so long with the train? Is it deliberately stalling along the way or what? Does it stop constantly so they can look at the view for a few hours?

Oh, I'm not suggesting Equestria is enormous - I'd be hard pressed to believe it was anything like, say, the size of the continental US - but that even taking into account low-end estimates, it's hardly "tiny". I'd personally reckon it to be perhaps larger than the UK, more towards some of the slightly larger European countries, but probably not a continent in and of itself. (Mostly because what we've seen of the logistics would seem to indicate that controlling and administrating a larger place could be quite difficult.) It even might be that the "cities" we've heard of more resemble city-states. But I don't think Equestria is a particularly large nation, at least in terms of populace, though.

Fair enough, probably 'tiny' wasn't a very good descriptor. Still seems to be fairly small, relatively speaking. I mean, for a race who can move at such speeds what we humans consider a long distance would be much smaller to them. So to ponies, Equestria could probably be called small.

[Forum Explorer]

Dark Eldar get allies. Necrons get allies. Chaos get allies.
Tyranids? NOPE.
Plus their last codex wasn't great... too much stuff that is shiny but useless, and they nerfed the carnifex to sell more trygons.


I find I can usually trust the mon-keigh to do as I predict.
Die gloriously, usually.


Quick! Put his underpants on his head and stick pencils up his nose!

Do liches even wear underpants?

Yes but tanks are much easier to kill which was one of their biggest weaknesses.

Speaking of things getting nerfed the Farseer is pretty much useless in comparison to Eldrad.

That's easy to answer; simply for increased cargo capacity and lesser effort. Just because you can walk somewhere, doesn't mean you always want to (especially if you're going to be doing something afterwards or are on holiday or something).



Oh, I'm not suggesting Equestria is enormous - I'd be hard pressed to believe it was anything like, say, the size of the continental US - but that even taking into account low-end estimates, it's hardly "tiny". I'd personally reckon it to be perhaps larger than the UK, more towards some of the slightly larger European countries, but probably not a continent in and of itself. (Mostly because what we've seen of the logistics would seem to indicate that controlling and administrating a larger place could be quite difficult.) It even might be that the "cities" we've heard of more resemble city-states. But I don't think Equestria is a particularly large nation, at least in terms of populace, though.

The UK is tiny

[SiuiS]

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As opposed to what other kind?

You guys have got to stop giving me lead ins like this.

"Fear not the psyker" (Dawn Of War 1+2)
"A man with no fear cannot be brave. He is also a fool." (Dawn of War Custom Map description)
"Look out, sir!" (Unit rule in the tabletop)
"Destroying [a demon] is the only way to avoid it's influences" - Gabriel Angelos, captain of the blood ravens
"The freedom of Chaos is a lie." (Paraphrased from Inquisitor sayings)
"[Giant Space Bugs] are a much greater threat to the imperium [than robot skeletons]" - Paraphrased from Tarkus
"Beware the Alien" -Every imperial ever

That's seven pieces of good advice =P Don't be afraid of the guy who can melt your insides if he's on your side, don't be completely unafraid, don't let bullets hit you, don't listen to lieing malevolent beings from beyond reality itself, doing things just because you can is completely meaningless (and often evil), extra galactic system-devourers are a bigger threat than robot skeletons because they eat more, and if humanity meets an alien race that's significantly more advanced than us the outcome will not be good.

None of that makes "an open mind is like a fortress without guards" either correct or useful, which is specifically what se was saying. 'don't have a open mind' is bad advice.

*looks at very first post above his return post, sees SiuiS apologising for apparent prior Ponythread Drama which has, once again, gone down the second Bleakbane isn't there to cudgel ponythread into some semblance of order.

AGAIN.*

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*eyeglow twitch*

*eyeglow twitch*

Uh-oh.

SiiiiuuuuuiiiiiiSSSS!!!!

Are... are you people doing this ON PURPOSE!?!?

Ye gods, I... I just... Seriously?!?!

I...cannot...for five minutes...!

*skulldesk*

*skulldesk*

*skulldesk*



Never before I have so empathised with this sentiment.

if it makes you feel any better, that nothing. You'll really sart seeing the semblance of a non-apple fruit come to light about two days after you left =D

[MCerberus]

Wait a second. Ponyville is just a short train ride to the capitol, and really close to Manehatten. Combine this with the general view the rest of Equestria has of the place...


Ponyville is pony-Jersey

[Pokonic]

Yes, but why does it take so long with the train? Is it deliberately stalling along the way or what? Does it stop constantly so they can look at the view for a few hours?

To be fair, it does seem to be somewhat of a "luxury" thing: there a bunch of importent ponies/other sentinents on there way to Canterlot. Presumably, it's going slower than it needs to up to the city to give the members inside the guarentied "one-night stay" before they present there desserts. The train probably took a few hours to go back down.


Also, mon-keighs? Don't you mean don-keighs?