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2012-09-12, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
I need me some of that ointment for this flu...
*rereads comic*
*notices ingredients list*
*laughs maniacally*
*grabs a cleaver and runs out the door*
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2012-09-12, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nale thinks Elan is the leader.
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2012-09-12, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
The funny thing is, Roy most likely isn't lying about his escape plan, given their track record of running away.
I especially appreciate the fact that Roy is oblivious to Tarquin's Ring of True Seeing. After all, how could he know that Tarquin possessed that item? A mark of a poor story teller is when the characters have knowledge that only the reader should possess.
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2012-09-12, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
Tarquin forgot to rescue marlek and qarr. So will the prophecy of
Spoilerboth durkon's death and bringing "death and destruction" (God of Marlek) to his home.Badly drawn helmet avatar drawn by me.
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2012-09-12, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
The pterodon seems well trained. Is it possible that Tarquin has ranks in ranger, and it's his animal companion?
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2012-09-12, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
As The Giant pointed out in the very first post, this is Keoghtom's Ointment: Extra Strength, which, unlike normal Keoghtom's Ointment, presumably requires such an ingredient.
Qarr teleported away, and Tarquin just said that they are going back now to get Malak.Last edited by Emperordaniel; 2012-09-12 at 09:03 AM.
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2012-09-12, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
oh look who doesnt have a back up axe, looks like Tarquins offensive ability has been reduced quite a bit
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2012-09-12, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thinking about it, the whip may actually be more useful. Tarquin hasn't been aiming for pure damage this whole time - he's been fighting defensively, and many of his attacks at the top of the pyramid were aimed at controlling his enemies, rather than wounding them. Even if it deals far less straight-up damage, the whip lets Tarquin make trip and disarm attacks more easily, which I fully expect to see exploited in an upcoming strip.
That said, I can't imagine it'll do him any favors when if/when he runs into Xykon.
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2012-09-12, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
True, but just because Tarquin said it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen. We know that Malack is actively looking for a path around the door, as he doesn't yet know that the rest of the Guild has retreated. Maybe Malack will find a way around the door, and meet up with the Order before Tarquin can catch back up with him. The rest of t209's point is... highly speculative, but maybe going back and getting Malack won't be as easy as Tarquin thinks it will be.
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2012-09-12, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
So the argument over why Elan wasn't involved in the fight is not so much ended as transferred from the forum to the strip.
There's sort of a theme going here. In Tarquin's view, you can't make Keoghtom's Ointment without the heart of a virgin collected on his/her wedding night, for the same reason that you can't make a Ring of Regeneration without torturing somebody to death to give it magic, and you can't make an omelette without ruthlessly crushing dozens of eggs beneath your steel boot and then publicly disemboweling the chickens that laid them as a warning to others.
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2012-09-12, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think so. Unless Tarquin's from some obscure fighting class and not Fighter, he still has a BAB of at least +17, i.e. Not Very ReducedTM. Even if that axe was +5, losing it does not really affect how well he can go on the offensive. Granted, whips only deal nonlethal damage, but that works out for him alright anyways, since he had promised not to kill Durkon (and doesn't want to kill Elan either), and the weapon has a 15-foot range - three times as far as Roy, Durkon, Belkar, or Elan can reach. Plus, there's always the +2 bonus a whip grants to Disarming your opponent, which is pretty nifty.
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2012-09-12, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
none of which has anything to do with Tarquins offensive ability
your also forgetting all the feats he has to increase his damage with a 2 handed axe that he almost certainly doesnt ahve with his whip
Tarquin essentially has no offensive ability now although his defensive ability has increased
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2012-09-12, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
I dislike the fact Tarquin has gotten to the point of getting involved in pointless monologues about his axe and drow sign language, just to make it clear things dont always go his way because a bunch of people are unable to accept he's just extra prepared. The spoiler in Giant's first comment is probably only there so people wont go "HURR THAT OINTMENT DOESNT DO THAT DEM RAWRRRR".
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2012-09-12, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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It will hopefully keep people from arguing if they can get back quick enough to be in anyway effective.
Well, we have had Star Wars with this group -- Indiana Jones has at least continuity of a shared leading actor... Makes sense, though. They went from the Evil Empire to hunting for an artifact in the middle of a desert.
Agree on the Drow. Weird boarding on creepy. It shows we have not seen him genuinely happy in all the strips he has been in so far. The strip was written such that the ointment was needed to get rid of deafness, but it is possible that the return was slow (less than total) or if there was some lingering impairment i.e. I know if I am exposed to silence for an extended period, I have to process what I hear over very loud tinnitus. Or it could be that he (Z) prefers good ol' dad (T) to his son (N) and just appreciated helps from some he (Z)... respects? We really don't know what Z thinks of T, though. Eh, I am not sure if the source of the smile matters (and it doesn't until it does... ).
Elan.... Poor E. It seems he has trouble believing that The Order is actually learning from their experiences... (Or he has been reading the Forums.) I really like that they are winning against a competent and cleaver opponent. It is setting up the idea that they are more than semi-competent and that a real win against Team Evil is possible. Victory over a competent Linear Guild has much more meaning then the typical LG.
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Or it is a stabilizing component. Maybe it is only needed for the Extra Strength version. Something has to hold on to that 71% magic after all. Might be the usual stabilizer doesn't cut it.... Hey, you never know...
Ooooh, that would be hilarious! It's always the ones you least suspect (or a bunch of meddling kids...) so why not? A lucky shot might do it. We shall see...
Eh, it is a personality type. He is very theatrical, we have seen it in everything from his preferred lighting system to his color coordinated cape. I find it amusing, but then I am good at tuning out people who like to expound ad nasum in real life anyway, and T seems like the type to hear himself talk. Yes, it does have the added benefit of informing the readers of info. And we know that the characters are aware that they are being watched by an audience as evidenced by breaking the 4th wall thought the strip. Maybe he is deliberately expounding to his reading audience. No matter the rational, I still don’t mind it.
I also am not sure I would agree with extra-prepared. Based on how my old DMs ran games, I would call him prepared enough. We tended to accumulate knowledge that translated into a number of precautionary details like T does... I look at it as just learning from prior experience. (Yikes, I hope this does not restart the arguments on T. Oh well. I am not a huge fan of evil dude, but I appreciate his precautions.)Last edited by Kalrany; 2012-09-12 at 11:01 AM. Reason: spelling, comments
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2012-09-12, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
Keoghtom's ointment has been around since 1E DMG (see pg. 149). This is probably why Tarquin knows of it; he's old. I believe Rich deliberately spelled it "Keoghtum" to make it sound more medicinal.
Keoghtom himself was a mage in the Greyhawk setting, originally played by Tom Keogh. I believe at one point he became a quasi-deity.
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2012-09-12, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-12, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
"Dat axe...!"
I think it says a lot about what a loot whore I am that the only thing I could pay attention to in the whole strip was "Sweet, free high-powered axe!"
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2012-09-12, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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And where, pray tell, is the proof that he has those "offensive" feats? As far as we know, Tarquin's entire build is centered around defensive combat - NOT offensive.
Just look at, say, every fight Tarquin has been shown participating in to see his defensive build in action.
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2012-09-12, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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The inactive ingredient list for Keoghtom's ointment EXTRA STRENGTH is probably the best argument in favor of pre-marital coitus in the D&D multiverse that I have ever seen.
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2012-09-12, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #863 - The Discussion Thread
just lookat, say, Malack telling Tarquin to stop messing around and fight seriously
besides even assuming that that is tarquins main fighting style it still doesnt change that without his axe hes completely reliant on the rest of his party to do the damage, with only a whip we wont take someone down in a million years
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2012-09-12, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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It wouldn't preclude him having some offensive feats folded in - he has been fighting defensively by choice (first encounter), or at a friend's request (vs. Durkon). That said, he does show strong defensive (and almost Monk-ish) abilities. Given his ridiculous preparedness, if he was heavily loaded on offensive axe-fighting, he'd probably have a magical way to retrieve his favorite axe, or an easily accessible backup, or an Amulet of Transmute Puppies and Kittens into Greataxes or something.
The whip thing does fit with the whole film allusion thing. Apparently, he thinks he's Harrison Ford. Which makes Nale (and possibly Elan) Shia Labeouf. Take that as you like.