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2012-11-01, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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AJ and Rarity totally win the prize from my perspective.
Overall, those are some shiny costumes. Can't wait to see Twilight's.
For real. It's like watching Batman in a JLU spurepower'd squad. AJ has to use skill, strength, and brains to keep up with the others. Generally she can keep up so props to her for that much.
Oh, and I do like this image's way of showing the interative dynamic of the characters:
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2012-11-01, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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@Halloween - here, it's not a thing, we have rather sad Evil Opposite Day instead.
Hmm... Though, I do like the art :P
Sadly there's a chance that was indeed the case...
But hey, maybe Disney will buy out Hasbro and have some of their professional artists do a new cover series.
Now, I say we must prepare for our inevitable Mouse overlords and actually good drawings :E
Please, do read my sentence:
new 5$ Hasbro plushes look better than 75% of fan made ones even in 25x more expensive range
The plush above fails both exclusion clauses, and the author had extra incentive to do it right. Still, wast majority of fan made plushes is inferior to official ones while costing much more.
And the plush above is very nice, yes, but I personally seen better.
However I suspect I'm going to once again find your standards both bizarre and excessively negative here.
A little test:
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Are all 3 images, undoubtely made by talented artists, look of the same quality and totally not slapped from 5 min sketch based on a few reference stills? Or would you call one of them better?
Yes based on being key here. I was speculating that for whatever reason they may not have any original material to simply print as a sketch cover. As I see Lauren still at least ostensibly claiming for example this sketch among several others on her account as her own.
Artist have some rights to their work these days, so while Lauren may have done all the sketches for the standard vectors, she may retain the original sketches as her own personal artwork/property and took them with her when she left. So even if Hasbro has say a scan in the computer somewhere they may need her permission to print that because even though its their character its her own work.
Yes, Lauren might have gotten some copies, but I'm sure if anyone needs to ask permission, it's her. Note she only IIRC sold sketches at 2 charity auctions, something that would be grudgingly accepted. Had Lauren sold anything commercially/without permission, it could be well grounds to loss of ™ on that character, and companies guard their portfolio a lot better now.Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2012-11-01, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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If I understand your point, it is that the one on the bottom has art quality of about the same, but it is unimaginative and stale. The top two, while not being photo stills, are still of very different quality; the one on the left hardly looks like something from the show, more like a twisted rendition. Snowboard Dash is the best of the options, due to its dynamic pose, new artwork, and good quality.
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2012-11-01, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Um, that's exactly it - #1 and #3 are just... bad. #1 drawn Fluttershy based on Posey stock art, copied background from concept art and didn't even try to capture show's art style or give characters their individual quirks (Fluttershy seems to be doing Pinkie-like "Oooooh!" for one). #3 botched Spike's/Rarity proportions (look at the limbs and attachment places...), copied Twilight, balloon and background from stock art, and once again fails to give character to ponies (like Rarity lying in mud). Plus, these eyes...
Artists are not bad, but it honestly looks like someone was given CD with stock vectors and was told to produce cover by Friday morning. Compared to them, artist #2 actually produced show-like unique background, gave show style his own unique, pretty interpretation, placed characters in show-like interactions - this cover shows so much more care it isn't even funny. It's either someone who had fun designing something in the spirit of show, or someone with good oversight.
Also, maybe it's me cynical nature, but so far it seems entire idea (10 pictures so far) for Spike the comic has is placing him in stupid poses with hearts next to Rarity. What happened to keeping it a secret? Even show writers knew it will work for one scene visual gag, in comic it starts to look like lack of ideas or blatant fanon pandering, neither of which bodes well.Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2012-11-01, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Rewatching "Luna Eclipsed,"
SpoilerDang it, Pinkie Pie. Then again, she provided the idea of bringing back Nightmare Moon Night.
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2012-11-01, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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I firmly believe no art can be judged objectively, since its purpose is there to invoke emotional response. Eye of the beholder and all that.
One can attempt to judge art technique objectively, but that is also rather petty since art technique are varied and numerous. And artists can excel with one median over another.
Even when attempting to judge effort, unless one is there by the artist side, one is simply guaging effort through personal bias. i.e. This piece looks bad to me so therefore the artist must have put in less effort.
Are abstract painting less effort and therefore less value than detail orientated classical painting? Are impressionist painting composed of thousands of colored dots more effort than a sculpture?Last edited by Kairaven; 2012-11-01 at 01:32 PM.
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2012-11-01, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 01:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I just misunderstood you then. Yeah I mostly agree with you then. I'm not particularly interested in the comics though, so the lack of quality doesn't bother me.
To address your cynical nature I'd say it'd be more a lack of ideas then blatant fanon pandering. Actually what fanon pandering? Spike being in love with Rarity is canon. So yeah the impression that Spike's personality can be summed up as "in love with Rarity" is much more disturbing and untrue from what we've seen in the show.
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2012-11-01, 03:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Show has Spike with kid's infatuation to Rarity, trying to hide his feelings, while Rarity pretty much realizes this, feels very uncomfortable about it, and treats Spike at best as friend/younger brother (S2 at least).
Fanon has them in very non-canon 'and they luv luv luv openly' position, at least some parts, and it looks to be the stance comic adopted. Oh well, we'll wait and see how it plays out.
If one painting evokes emotional response in 95% of audience, and the other in maybe 5%, congratulations, we just judged it objectively.
One can attempt to judge art technique objectively, but that is also rather petty since art technique are varied and numerous. And artists can excel with one median over another.
No matter what he excels in, it's still possible to roughly estimate the amount of effort, especially by others knowing the craft. My point, however, was that while effort might have been put in, art without 'wow' factor, or what you said, emotional response, still fails to perform its function. In other words, was forced out because deadline was Friday.
Even when attempting to judge effort, unless one is there by the artist side, one is simply guaging effort through personal bias. i.e. This piece looks bad to me so therefore the artist must have put in less effort.
Anyway, yes, my stance is, that it is absolutely possible to judge a craft once someone knows something about it. Layman might not notice subtle shading technique, for example, thinking it looks like next picture, but someone who tried to do that might be shocked by how perfectly one simple detail was done. Master provokes 'emotional response' with every single thing he does, bad artist will fail to do it despite putting in mountains of effort.
In fact, I'd say looking at good art/writing quickly kills your enjoyment of lesser works - while you might have liked 50% of them, you now enjoy only 5%. The other seem just badly done and cliched in comparison... As if your own subconsciousness was trying to tell you it judged the work poor in comparison and no amount of forcing it in will do.
Are abstract painting less effort and therefore less value than detail orientated classical painting?
Are impressionist painting composed of thousands of colored dots more effort than a sculpture?
Anyway, my stance here is, master picks his tools. Goddess might be provoking best emotional response in sculpt. Glovy morning as, say, expressionist painting. Fail to match the two and the end result will fail, too. No putting of effort will make good house on rotting foundations.
When 'original style' is failure that doesn't capture the spirit of what it is supposed to show, it can have all the originality it wants but it is still fail. Right tools for the job and all that - artist #1 failed doing so, IMHO. Trying to make landscape art by moulding it from bird droppings would be the most original thing in the world but it would still be pure manure.Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2012-11-01, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am just going to disagree as usual and leave it at that. We fundamentally sees things through different eyes.
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2012-11-01, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fanon has everypony in every possible combination in a luv luv openly position.
I mean you are likely right and while I don't think romance between the two is out of the question I wouldn't say the viewpoint that the two are in love is a 'Fanon' view. To me that only applies to more widely spread opinions like LyraXBon Bon or Derpy.
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2012-11-01, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey! you can't blame me
do you not remember the SpikexRarity story i wrote just for you?
well..ok..it was really GummyxOpal with a little Sparity tacked on at the end..but you THOUGHT it was Sparity
..well actually if i recall correctly you thought it was SpikexOpal
but its the thought that counts
.....aaaaaaaand now that i think about it i remember that i never wanted to remind you of that trick...
no rocket launcher to the face please..Ponies not only make ME want to be a better person than I was before they entered my life, they make me want to HELP OTHERS be better people too.
And that is a GOOD thing by any definition.
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2012-11-01, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, don't worry...
I never forget.
Seriously, he doesn't. You know how in Warhammer Fantasy Battle, the Dwarves had a Book of Grudges? Where they used it to gain power from having all the old grudges written down or something? The boss actually has one. He made it himself. Seriously, there's all sorts of petty stuff in there, from like literal decades ago.
Damn straight.Last edited by Aotrs Commander; 2012-11-01 at 07:14 PM.
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2012-11-01, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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I hereby interrupt this broadcast to bring you a picture of the best pony wizzard.
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2012-11-01, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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I can't help but shudder at all these pictures of...fingerponies.
Also, The Great and Powerful Trixie is the least appropriate Rincewind I could possibly think of.
(Actually, thinking about it, I like the idea of a not-quite Earth Pony Rincewind. His Horn fell off when he learned the great spell?)
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2012-11-01, 08:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why am I feeling that MLP:FiM Production team will make Rarity's dad to be like Vaarsuvius's gender He will always comes with a hat but it will not reveal whether he's an earth pony, or a unicorn.
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2012-11-01, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 08:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ponies not only make ME want to be a better person than I was before they entered my life, they make me want to HELP OTHERS be better people too.
And that is a GOOD thing by any definition.
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2012-11-01, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 09:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-01, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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