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2012-11-22, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
No, sorry, I'm not talking about direct combat lethality (or even direct social conflict, necessarily). It's just... crap, how do I put this... It seems like even though the disparity in abilities remains within a couple of dice, any competition between high-XP vampires favors the specialist over the generalist because of his Disciplines. Both can use indirect means like Status, Allies, and Resources to fill in their weaknesses, but a specialists strengths will be greater than a generalists ability to compensate.
Hm. Maybe that's the question I should be asking; will a Discipline-generalist elder be outmatched by a Discipline-specialist? You could have a specialist buy five dots in two Clan Disciplines, and two non-Clan Disciplines (or Coils or Cruac or whatever). For the same price you could have six two dot and two three dot Clan Disciplines, and five three dot non-Clan Disciplines. If the generalist goes on the offensive, he'll be able to deal more easily with the specialists defenses, but not with the specialist himself. If the specialist goes on the offensive, he'll be able to cut through everything with the high-end stuff.
Is this disjointed rambling? 'Cause it feels like disjointed rambling.Last edited by Cirrylius; 2012-11-22 at 08:48 PM.
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2012-11-22, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
To continue with Selrahc's example, adding 200 XP onto the 50 XP combat beast he built means that he is now a generalist beast. Not only is he deadly in combat, but he has comparable abilities in two or three other areas as well. Once you hit what could be called "Elder" rating, you have enough XP to be a general specialist.
I'm not sure where you're getting 8 different clan disciplines, considering that, even with bloodlines, the most a vampire will have is 4. I could be mistaken, of course, but that's what I've seen so far.
Anyway, to answer that question, you want to specialize. The discipline-specialist will beat the discipline-generalist every time, simply because he has access to greater powers than the generalist.
Maybe a little disjointed, but we'll forgive you this time.
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2012-11-22, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-22, 11:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Short and made for an older male audience? Sounds like Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha (Warning! Link leads to TV Tropes, read at your own peril!) The first two seasons are both only 13 episodes long and probably the best part of the series. As a source of inspiration for Princess, the main things to note are the nature of the antagonists and the power level. Princess is a street level game, while Nanoha and friends pack mecha-class firepower. As for the bad
guysgirls, unlike most of the genre, Nanoha drops the "monster of the week" format after the first few episodes, instead focusing on the conflict between the heroine and her dark counterpart(s). Princess has plenty of support for that though.
Another thing worth looking into might be Sailor Nothing (warning, more TV Tropes). An old and classic dark deconstruction of the genre, it's much closer to the genre's standard format and Princess' power level, but the tone is much darker. Princess, by contrast, is meant to be a reconstruction, so while they share many themes, PCs in Princess are unlikely to be laboring under quite so many Shadows as poor Himei.
On another subject, I'm kind of interested in that Dexter's Lab, the RPG game, though I've never done pbp before. I might be willing to ST, but I've only played nWoD once, and my only experience GMing is for Mutant's&Masterminds, and that was just a string of combat encounters with a plot that was little more than window dressing. So all told, you'd probably be better off with some one else.
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2012-11-22, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Damn your eyes, you knew that warning would accomplish NOTHING!!
...NOTHING.Last edited by Cirrylius; 2012-11-22 at 11:11 PM.
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2012-11-22, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
I've been meaning to look into Nanoha, and I'm currently reading Sailor Nothing. Really good story, that one is.
The offer's appreciated nevertheless, but yeah, I'm not sure jumping into ST'ing a three-fan-splat crossover as your first PBP experience is a good idea. You think we should actually make a thread about this game over on the PBP recruitment board? We might actually find an ST there.
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2012-11-23, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-24, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Alright, then. I'll make a thread over there. To be sure, we're looking for a Genuis-Leviathan-Princess crossover game, right? And we just need someone to ST, I think we have enough interest here.
EDIT: Thread's up. Everyone interested should check in over there.
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2012-11-28, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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For all interested, there's a new development blog about the Strix Chronicles, this time detailing the plans for new versions of Animalism and Dominate.
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2012-12-01, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm considering buying some of the Werewolf books. I have the core WtF book but I kind of want to get some more. Predators, Blasphemies and the Pure seem like they would be useful. Are there any others that are considered good?
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2012-12-01, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
What are you looking for? Rage: the players guide has a lot of interesting setting information, and I think auspices of the moon or aspects of the moon has some really useful mechanics in it. The villain books are always good, and the pure starts out well (haven't finished it, read it some months ago).
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2012-12-01, 06:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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To some extent I want to get a better idea of the setting. Mostly because I've been thinking about the game somewhat and kind of want to try to run a game*. If I did convince anyone to play I have some ideas of where to start. To some extent I want to figure out how werewolves interact and just more ideas of how the setting works.
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2012-12-05, 11:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-05, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-05, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Predators is sort of outdated now. Book of Spirits handles a lot of what it was doing, in a slightly better way. It's a decent enough book, and you can certainly use it to help make some interesting antagonists, but Book of Spirits is better for dealing with the Spirit world.
Blasphemies... eh. Blasphemies is one of those very very NWoD books, which refuse to even give you the ghost of a definitive answer on the subjects it is ostensibly about. This can work out really well(Pandoras book takes the same approach, and is one of my favorite supplements), but in this case it doesn't. Sort of feels less like it's giving you possibilities, than it is chickening out of a question.
Pure is good. It's a solid book, full of a lot of weighty rules, interesting ideas and a good take on the antagonist faction.
Blood of the Wolf and Tribes of the Moon are the two "Social interaction" books, describing werewolf-society, and werewolves within human society in more detail. They're both pretty solid.Avatar by Simius
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2012-12-06, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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I thought book of spirits was primarily a Geist book.
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2012-12-06, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-08, 03:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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I would suggest then, the core book, blood of the wolf, pure, and to look for some stories from actual games. There's one on RPG.net, "Detroit Rock City" that is very good, although the first character you meet skirts the border of Mary Sue and could easily put you off the tale. It's very engrossing, and a good look at some of the things in the game book, given context where before it was kind of vacuous.
There's a book about wars and crusades that's pretty neat, but not mandatory.
Was it even a pun? I took it as a colloquialism.
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2012-12-08, 03:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
If 'Short and for older audiences' isn't supposed to just mean 'older dudes', Madoka is difficult to ignore as a high-quality magical girl anime, and it's referenced in the Princess book itself (And it is entirely normal to have enjoyed Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and the like, and then gone on to enjoy Madoka, so I don't understand why one would recommend 'never showing it'). At least one of the Pretty Cures is meant for kids, but solidly executed enough to be enjoyable as an adult regardless, as well, but I can't seem to remember which offhand. I do think, however, that straight up Sailor Moon should certainly be manageable for a season, although perhaps not the dub. And not to put too fine a point on it, at least one season of My Little Pony may also be useful as well, and likely tolerable. The simple fact is, you really want to look at at least one season of something original and seminal, if only to contrast it to other, newer things. It'll also give you more of a frame of reference for your girlfriend discussing the matter, especially if you pick Sailor Moon and maybe Card Captor Sakura.
The Princess .pdf and e-pub both key to the wiki; the 'creative differences' version appears to be dead, which is a pity I suppose. The difference between .pdf and e-pub is that one of them has the hoster's actual house rules (Rather than the fork that appeared to happen due to drama). I don't know which is which yet, and I don't know the differences either. It's a fansplat though, so it's got some issues, and is unclear at points, some of which I occasionally have to wrangle out of the creators. It's also an ongoing project. Mind that the game's theme is exhaustion by default, not failure nor misery. Succeeding and bringing hope is meant to be hard and draining, but not generally impossible.
Edits: Probably late, but hey, never hurts to have the information up for the dude working on Princess. And *Yoink* Thanks folks playing a cross-fansplat game, your math will be used in place of my laziness in future nWoD games I run.
Unrelated to mentionings of magical girls, are there books for major splats that detail potential interactions with smaller splats? Like, something for Mages and Prometheans, from the Mage's perspective instead?Last edited by RPGuru1331; 2012-12-08 at 08:15 AM.
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2012-12-08, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Me and my friends are having a disagreement on whether skin of the adder allows you to soak damage from feral claws. Relevant text:
Feral Claws: The Beast is prominent in the claws as well, making them fearsome weapons against other immortals.
The Skin of the Adder: The vampire may use her Stamina to soak aggravated damage from claws and fangs, but not from fire, sunlight, or other supernatural energies.
My interpretation is that the beast's presence in the claws makes them illegable for that ability of SotA, despite it being claws. (I would allow the damage from a chainsaw to be soaked with SotA, even though it is neither fang nor claw).
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You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
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2012-12-08, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
It specifically says 'aggravated from claws and fangs'. There are no non-supernatural claws in the entire OWoD that do aggravated damage...agg is pretty exclusively related to supernatural attacks or supernatural weaknesses. The Beast might be 'present' in the claws, but it's still a physical attack, not a supernatural energy attack the way a Lure of Flame Thaumaturgy blast would be.
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2012-12-08, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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So. I just finished my first foray into Pledgecrafting. Which is unfortunately nameless at the moment, though suggestions are welcome. Thoughts?
SpoilerBy my true name, I grant you the power to see those who would hide from you for a single moon, one short month. One turning, dark to dark, in which all things will be revealed to you. Further, I swear that none but I shall walk through your dreams for this span, and your pleasant dreams shall themselves be my reward for this service.
By your true name, you grant me leave to walk there that I may perform my task. Swear that you will let me take from your dreams what I deem fair payment, so long as it does you no harm. Swear that you will keep the knowledge I grant you from all who do not know it already, even as I keep your dreams, until the moon is as it was when we swore once again.
And let the one who is forsworn in this oath wake to find its teeth at their throat; ill-luck follow you if you are proved false in your promise of silence, and may my strands on the loom of Fate tangle and snap should my boon prove empty.
Do you so swear?
Changeling:
Dreaming: -2
Ensorcellment: -2
Glamour: +2
Blessing: +2
Curse: -2
Moon: +2
Mortal:
Ensorcellment: +2
Forbiddance: -2
Curse: -2
Moon: +2
Type: Oath, True Name
Invocation: 1 point of Willpower (both?), 1 point of Glamour (Changeling)
Effects:
The Changeling gains a point of Glamour each night that they enter the mortal's dreams, and works to make them both pleasant and safe from other intrusion. They also add two dots to an existing Merit, or gain a new Merit of two dots in strength, for the duration of the Pledge.
The mortal is ensorcelled, gaining the ability to see the things of the supernatural world, so long as they maintain silence about the things that this allows them to see with those not aware of their existence.
Should either party break this pledge, they are immediately afflicted with ill-luck; only a 9 or 10 in any dice pool counts a success.
Obviously, I'm a little uncertain on the Invocation cost.
Also, this is intentionally pretty much a mix of the Oath of the Rose and Thorn and the Pledge of Horn and Bone, so yes, I am aware of that.
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2012-12-08, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-08, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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"It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
You'll never get out of life alive,
So please kill yourself and save this land,
And your last mission is to spread my command,"
Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself
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2012-12-08, 10:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2012-12-09, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
I thought regular fire was only agg to Prometheans and Vampires?
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Werewolves only have claws when shapeshifted into crinos form, a supernatural power, so yes.Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2012-12-09, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
The supernatural is part of the world, yeah. That doesn't make werewolves shapeshifting any less supernatural.
Doesn't it cost Essence to shapeshift? I never actually read W:tF.
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2012-12-09, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Essence does it without a roll, otherwise you roll a pool I forget to transform.
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.
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2012-12-09, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-12-09, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's the wrong line of argument, since it can be done without. The one you actually want is that the Gift to do agg with claws costs Essence. Except since there's no 'natural' (The supernatural is honestly an incoherent concept outside of very particular game definitions, but whatever) Fangs or Claws that do agg except very particular Gifts/Disciplines, of what use is it if it doesn't protect from gifts/disciplines? I'm pretty sure we'r eall aware that White Wolf isn't aces at mechanics; who wants to leave a definitionally useless Discipline on the books
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Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.