A Perfectly Normal Werewolf Game

[Thematthew]

I would like people's opinions on whether to end this day on Monday and have night 2 last until January, or to end this day with the coming of the New Year.

[Indarra]

I vote Monday.
ImperatorV of the three options given.

[AvatarVecna]

Of the three, RNGesus directed me to vote for ImperatorV.

[Eggel]

Going to listen to FC and town and vote ImperatorV.

Fleeing Coward, is there a specific reason Ramsus should be lynched first? I don't think people switching to Ramsus now is a good idea, because some people might not change their votes in time. Misread some stuff, just ignore

EggelThanks Kish
Fleeing Coward

[Indarra]

FC didn't give an order.

[Kish]

For my part, I find "I'm putting the third vote on a yet-uncontested wagon which no one has stated any reason to think is particularly likely to be a wolf" more suspicious than the first or second vote.

You can't gift vote yourself.

[OrbitalPanic]

Well, not sure what I can add here so ImperatorV , though I would like to know if there's any more to it than "voted for a mason before the mason claimed".

[BasketOfPuppies]

I vote that the day ends Monday.

I'm gonna go with Ramsus for the lynch to try to get a counterwagon going and FC for the gift because he's a mason apparently.

[Ramsus]

I can see you're all wise guys here. You all know about how FC always tells the truth, especially when his neck is on the line, and how highest priority for masons is always "lynch anyone who voted for me before I claimed".

[Silent_Interim]

I can see you're all wise guys here. You all know about how FC always tells the truth, especially when his neck is on the line, and how highest priority for masons is always "lynch anyone who voted for me before I claimed".

This would be a lot funnier if you weren't depressingly on point. Although I'd note we have no counter-claim. And Generic actually made a reasonable point about ImperatorV jumping on the FC wagon remarkably quick.

My gift vote likely doesn't count for anything now, but Ramsus, I know we haven't always gotten along well. I hope the gift is something nice. And also that you get it.

[Xihirli]

While I was thankfully incorrect in suspecting the Day 1 wagon, I'd like to posit that Tom the Mime seemed to be inconspicuously attempting to bail out his wolf buddy.

I'm going to concur and point at Tom the Mime.
There's little reasoning on ImperatorV.

[Kish]

I'm somewhat suspicious of anyone who's trying to sell a redo of a wagon that was an opposed wagon to Duck999 on Day 1, on an uncounterclaimed mason. I also have other reasons (related to talking to flatfooted) to believe Tom the Mime is town.

Duneyrr said "This wagon feels awfully fishy to me, though Tom the Mime is pretty fishy too" and voted with Tom the Mime for Pelican, and then the next day voted for Tom the Mime again suggesting that casting a vote for Pelican the previous day was trying to bail out a wolf buddy--an implication which I'd suggest everyone think hard about.

ImperatorV is a good target for today, but if I'm not still alive to start a wagon on Duneyrr tomorrow, I hope someone picks it up. Also suspicious of Xihirli.

Well, not sure what I can add here so ImperatorV , though I would like to know if there's any more to it than "voted for a mason before the mason claimed".

I think "put the third vote on the sole wagon with no stated reasoning, instead of either voting for someone who they had some reason to suspect or voting off-wagon to promote discussion" is more than that; I'm with you as far as "voted for a mason before the mason claimed" not being intrinsically suspicious, which is why I'm voting for ImperatorV and not Ramsus.

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Unless flatfooted lied to me (something that strikes me as highly unlikely), he had a power role. Accordingly, I suspect that 1) this is an all-power-role game and 2) all we'll learn when anyone dies is which side they were on, not what power role they had. If I'm right, presumably the wolves have known it since Duck999 died, so it can only benefit town for everyone to know it.

[Grand Arbiter]

Before I need to take a third draft of this post due to being ninja'd while typing, I'll state my agreement that Duneyrr and ImperatorV seem wolfy.

Kish for the gift, because they posted about Duneyrr's vote last day phase as I was still drafting mine, and because they seem the most town to me.

[Xihirli]

Duneyrr mentioned that.
Those on non-duck bandwagons may have been trying to protect a wolf buddy, so I'm suspicious of Tom and Duneyrr. But only one of those already had a vote on them. I'd put either of them up for lynch. I'm mostly feeling neutral about Imp. Might be a wolf, might not be. Continuing a running gag past the point of "getting old" is something a lot of us do, though I may end up switching if Imp doesn't post again today.

[Elenna]

ImperatorV apparently? I'd like to know if FC has actual reason to think they are a wolf or if he's just guessing/revenge voting. Given the lack of a counterclaim I'll believe him on being a mason for now though.

Gifts: Fleeing Coward because mason, Ramsus because I feel bad about that one vote in the Hogwarts game, and I guess Indarra for voting Duck999 yesterday?

General comment/announcement that I'll be on vacation and not checking GiTP between Dec 24 and Dec 30 inclusive.
As such, I'd prefer to end the day on Monday, I'd rather miss the day phase than the night phase.

[Thematthew]

Only give one vote for presents. They go out based on 1st, 2nd, and last place.

[OrbitalPanic]

With the realization that I didn't vote for gifts I'm going to vote for Kish for providing a decent explanation of the wagon.
Edited for using an insufficently festive green

[Elenna]

Only give one vote for presents. They go out based on 1st, 2nd, and last place.

Whoops, misunderstood that. I guess Fleeing Coward then.

[AvatarVecna]

Wait, presents? I missed something...Fleeing Coward then.

[Kish]

Note that ideally, first, second, and third gift place should all go to trustworthy town members. It's not good for town if the final result is (hypothetically): Mason: 17 votes, Wolf-1: 3 votes, Wolf-2: 1 vote.

(In other words, barring a surge in another gift-wagon, I think FC has enough votes now, and will probably be switching off myself--likely to Indarra or Tom the Mime--on Sunday, once I'm confident FC's lead won't be challenged.)Scratch this; he doesn't have nearly as many votes as I, for some reason, thought.

[Fleeing Coward]

I can see you're all wise guys here. You all know about how FC always tells the truth, especially when his neck is on the line, and how highest priority for masons is always "lynch anyone who voted for me before I claimed".

Ramsus
Shading me.
Opportunistic jumping on my wagon.
Conveniently forgetting that I voted to lynch a wolf yesterday.
I would already be dead if it wasn't for a particular someone's actions last night.

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Also, have reason to believe Xihirli is wolf and Ramsus wanted to gift Xihirli.

[Lex-Kat]

Well that gift of my foe's head on a stick backfired quickly, didn't it.

Thank you and sorry, Ramsus.

[Fleeing Coward]

Personal preference is for the day to end in January so that we can all just relax and not worry about the game until then.

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Well that gift of my foe's head on a stick backfired quickly, didn't it.

Thank you and sorry, Ramsus.

For what it's worth, I think you're the one I least want to lynch out of the three and I wouldn't mind if anyone votes you for a gift.
I'm just strongly against Ramsus and Xihirli getting gifts since we have reason to believe that they may be wolves. Everyone else, I have no objections to at this point.

[Xihirli]

But I'm pretty.

[Fleeing Coward]

But I'm pretty.

I like you Xihirli and I think you're entertaining regardless of your alignment but unfortunately, it appears we're most likely on opposite sides this game so I can't endorse you getting a gift in good conscience

[Xihirli]

Remember when I saved your life in Duck Season I?

[BasketOfPuppies]

But I'm pretty.

The prettiest. Doesn't change a lot though.

[Eggel]

But I'm pretty.

Can I put this in my signature?

[Xihirli]

Super Kami Guru allows this.

[Fleeing Coward]

Remember when I saved your life in Duck Season I?

Yes but I also remember that you only saved my life so you could brutally murder me yourself the next day.