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2017-12-06, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-12-06, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
You meant: "Glad to hear it" : )
'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. … The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. … Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'
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2017-12-06, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
So much for three quarters of the last thread and possibly a solid third of the one before
Loki hates the undead should be plenty of reason to turn the "icky" things :P
Additionally I think we got some evidence concerning her chaotic character :)
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2017-12-06, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
The comic uses the wrong "hear", literally unreadable
So, what's Kudzu trying to say? I heard it as "thunder", as nothing else comes to mind, but it could also be meaningless.
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2017-12-06, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Man, this entire thing had me in stitches, but Belkar was actually the funniest part of it for me, which I almost never say. (He's grown on me since his character development, but I find that Roy, Elan and Haley tend to deliver my favorite punchlines.) Also, answers on the Turn Undead thing! Good work, Giant.
... legit can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
"Turn Undead," if you're serious.Last edited by DaggerPen; 2017-12-06 at 06:18 PM.
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2017-12-06, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
OMFG Durkon's baby trying to Turn Undead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2017-12-06, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Do NOT argue with idiots - they drag you on their level and beat you with experience
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2017-12-06, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-06, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I parse it as babyspeak thunder too. Law of Conservation of Detail says it's probably not meaningless.
Aawwww, "turn undead"... cute!Last edited by WalkingTheShade; 2017-12-06 at 06:20 PM.
'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. … The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. … Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'
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2017-12-06, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-06, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-06, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
*sniff* A young cleric in the making. A thing of beauty, that is. Brings a tear to the eye.
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2017-12-06, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
"How about you not tell me what to do, human?" I thought was the evidence of Chaotic behavior.
She's obviously quite angry at Durkon for knocking her up and leaving her; hence "deeply unscrupulous."
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Kudzu, eh?
Is that the Thieves' Guild in the final panel? The rain suggests Greysky City, and that looks like Jenny at the card table. (I suppose that could be Hank from behind, as well.)
edit: Also, whatever Loki's actual alignment, it seems like his ability to grant Turn Undead to Hilgya is explained in panel six. "Lo, they are such gross, icky things" indeed.Last edited by Ruck; 2017-12-06 at 06:24 PM.
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2017-12-06, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I read the depravity of character as her complaining about dumping her after getting her with child.
It has more to do with him not conforming to her views of what hes supposed to do than abiding to any formal code of conduct.
(though both parts have a certain overlap in this case)
At least thats my interpretation
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2017-12-06, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I'm totally going to try to get my 17 month old son to say "Tunn unn deh" now.
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2017-12-06, 06:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I love the look on everyone's face in the last panel. You can see the thought in each of their heads, "How badly do I want to win this?" Heh. Good one!
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2017-12-06, 06:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Do NOT argue with idiots - they drag you on their level and beat you with experience
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2017-12-06, 06:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Boy, I hope that babysitter in the last panel at least had a good hand and wasn't bluffing.
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2017-12-06, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-06, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I am: Neutral Good: -2 chaos, -21 evil and 15 balance!
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2017-12-06, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I guess that's a hint that Loki is still Evil but he simply grants Turn Undead powers because ewww. And while it's still not explicitly stated, this strip also pretty much confirms that Hilgya didn't know about Durkon's vampirization.
Not sure what Belkar's issue with "Kudzu" is, but then again that name was 100% meaningless to me until I looked it up 5 minutes ago so I'm not sure what the average reader will get from it.ungelic is us
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2017-12-06, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
"Are we sure that's not a common name"
"are we going to glide past the fact that she name her son Kudzu?"
Glad to see Belkar keeps his wits about him.
Also whoever it was in the last thread that thought Minrah and Hylgia looked to much alike, kudos, you were on to something!Forum Wisdom
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2017-12-06, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Fair enough. I guess the point of concern is how she seems to have ignored his stated reasons for leaving her, interpreting it as pure selfishness on his part. And she's indulged in self-serving interpretations of the past before, so it seems like that's going to stick around.
I guess Belkar hasn't provided much internal drama in a while, and with Jerkon and the Mechane crew not here, someone's got to induce conflict.
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2017-12-06, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
It is a plant. A very invasive plant. A plant that overruns other plants. Granted, it's very pretty. It looks like the plant version of newfallen snow (from what I've seen of newfallen snow on the TV and internets, of course). Come to the South, you'll hear a lot about it.
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2017-12-06, 06:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
What a little cutie! copying his momma!
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2017-12-06, 06:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Kudzu? I guess he grows on you.
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2017-12-06, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Soooo, I see that last panel and all I can think is, what's the over under on Belkar having impregnated Jenny with a bouncing baby quarterling?
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2017-12-06, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
I think Kudzu is supposed to mean "F**k Dwarfkind...!"
Dwarves believe that trees are secretly intelligent, evil beings who pretend to be non-sentient, but slowly use their roots to collapse dwarven tunnels on purpose. Kudzu is one of the fastest-growing plants on Earth. Calling the kid Kudzu is kinda like calling him Satan.Last edited by Clistenes; 2017-12-06 at 06:35 PM.
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2017-12-06, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1107 - The Discussion Thread
Kudzu is an originally East Asian plant (its name in English is derived from the Japanese kuzu) that's become common throughout much of the Southeastern United States. In much of East Asia it is used as a foodstuff and base for various dishes. In the US, it is known for being a notoriously, unbelievably resilient invasive species that will literally kill other plants by growing so thickly over them that they can't get sun anymore and wither away.
A few of my favorite quotes from the Wikipedia article, to give you a sense of what "kudzu" tends to immediately evoke in most familiar English-speakers:
The plant is edible, but often sprayed with herbicides.Cutting off the above-ground vines is not sufficient for an immediate kill. It is necessary to destroy all removed crown material.After initial herbicidal treatment, follow-up treatments and monitoring are usually necessary, depending on how long the kudzu has been growing in the area. It may require up to 10 years of supervision after the initial chemical placement to make sure the plant does not return.While fire is not an effective way to kill kudzuI am: Neutral Good: -2 chaos, -21 evil and 15 balance!
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