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2019-09-03, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-09-03, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
Freedom! Love that bard song.
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2019-09-03, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I love the background of the freedom thing.
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Bahahah, Tenrin's admiration of Elan is the sort of thing I never would have thought of but which I totally needed. Finally someone truly appreciates what he brings to the team!
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2019-09-03, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
This was an excellent story line, but I have to be honest, I'm starting to miss Team Evil and the boys, looking forward to seeing what they're up to.
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2019-09-03, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
So...I'm guessing this is the end of the round? Quick! To the OotS by Page count thread!
Love the bards' admiration of Elan!
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2019-09-03, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-03, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
I am not a D&D expert. Song of Freedom can reverse petrification? I guess it says it does what "break enchantment" does, and that has worked before in OOTS-world. For some reason I thought it specifically reversed only mind control, but I guess that's just one possibility.
Also, if Hilgya lost her domination when Durkon* was dusted, why did they need to free the councilors? Were they all dominated by Curly, the only surviving vampire? Is there some other vampire out there we don't know about?SpoilerI Am A: Chaotic Neutral Human Sorcerer (5th Level)
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2019-09-03, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
Who'd have thunk that Elan would only get his due's from the dwarves?!
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2019-09-03, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-03, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
Good to see Elan being appreciated.
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2019-09-03, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-03, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hehe, finally Elan gets some recognition around here!
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Genuinely chuckling here at work, gotta keep it down.
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2019-09-03, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
Rules are fuzzy on what spell effects end when the caster is destroyed vs. what aren't, so it could be a legitimate inconsistency. It's also possible that when Durkon's personality took back control of the vampire body, he dismissed the Dominate effect as a free action at the same time dropped the Anti-Life Shell and let Belkar stab him.
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2019-09-03, 10:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
I mean does it matter? It makes for a cool story and cool panel. They could just as well have had Minrah go and say "Oh look the temple had a scroll of Stone to Flesh, let me cast that on him" or V casting something like that. It was Durkon's time to get un-stoned, so he's getting unstoned.
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
About the Song of Freedom (Awesome scene!), it's said to be "equivalent to the break enchantment spell", and Break Enchantment is stated to "free victims from enchantments, transmutations, and curses". Petrification is a transmutation, so it makes sense break Enchantment (and thus Song of Freedom) would be able to undo it.
About Vampire Domination, there's no statement in RAW saying Domination expires with the death of the dominator (although the source of the commands ceases to exist, the victim might still be compelled to follow the last orders given for the rest of the duration). We can always assume the death of Durkon* and Ponchula in The Battle of Banquet HallTM was a trigger that allowed Hilgya another save.Last edited by D.One; 2019-09-03 at 10:20 AM.
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Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
I figured they dragged Statue Durkon to the temple because of the blue barrier. I figured that if it counts for spells and supernatural abilities, then also for spell-like abilities, such as song of freedom. But no, it was merely to stage a better chapter break. But then I wonder how the rest of the council was freed. The background seems to suggest they were still in the meeting room?
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2019-09-03, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-03, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
Finally, Elan gets the respect for all the narrative weight he pulls around here.
Now I just want a few panels of Elan, Squeaky, and Jenna talking narrative.
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Re: OOTS #1178 - The Discussion Thread
See what I quoted here: Quotes from Fyraltari
Also this post from Fyraltari.
See this post from Mortsdeer.