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Thread: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
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2021-10-20, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
Oh, right. Must have mixed up something in my Notes. Sorry.
Nitpick on your new POE: Is Meta really town, or only not mafia?
Your Book / Cap theory is one I share. It's one of the reasons I am going after Cap at the moment. It will yield an additional bit of info.
Fext can be town. But I think it would be a bit strange to have two townies with anti SK powers. Not impossible, but a bit strange. I also assume/guess they could have an SK kill immunity, but that's baseless speculation.
AV claimed she survived a roleblock and a murder attempt, but should have died to two attacks. So either she can explicitly be killed by two kills per night, or she had the power to survive one night kill ever. Or her power let's her survive one specific type of kill. Or... many possibilities.
I don't mind your downgrade for myself. I am still town and I am still convinced you are not a wolf (and saying I might suspect you if you survive the night was an attempt to protect you. Not sure if it worked or you live for some other reason, but that's not important right now)
As far as I am concerned, I am perfectly fine with the wolves being in gac, Cap, Goof. Not completely confident, but there are very decent odds.
Unless I miss something, your vote puts us at Fext: 2*
Cap: 2
A proper vote count will follow later.
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2021-10-20, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
Do you mind sharing what the other target flavour was AV?
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2021-10-20, 06:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, Meta could be SK.
Also I didn't downgrade you, you're in the same tier. It's just my bottom tier from before are now dead town and confirmed town.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
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2021-10-20, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
That is very correct.
Let's just say I have them pseudo cleared of being a wolf after testing something last night.
Meta is really town and also not mafia.
Believe me, if I were the serial killer THERE WOULD BE BLOOD BY NOW!
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I'd argue that "hello, SK, I'm trying to kill you" is a good way to get serial killed if one is an anti-SK law-abiding citizen of town.
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And before I'd forget: until we hear more of Fext, I'm going to join you guys onCaptain Cap.Last edited by Metastachydium; 2021-10-21 at 05:22 AM.
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2021-10-20, 07:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Huh, so you know exactly who is / was immune to the serial killers night kill?
Am I reading things wrong, or are you repeating the exactly same point about announcing the intention of killing the killer?
Your vote is noted and creates the following situation:
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Captain Cap (3): Rogan, Snowblaze, Metastachydium
Fext (2): Gac3, Elenna
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2021-10-20, 07:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
List of Night 1 Actions (kind of?):
- Xihirli roleblocked AvatarVecna with fire (??)
- AvatarVecna took no action with a Priority lower than 2 (??)
- bladescape killed Xihirli with a crossbow
- UNKNOWN tried to kill AvatarVecna with a pistol (??)
- AvatarVecna protected by means unknown from UNKNOWN (??)
- AvatarVecna gained feedback by means unknown (??)
- Rogan used a lie-detecting power on SOMETHING (??)
- Survivor power was useless
- Mafia kill failure (?)
- Serial Killer failure (?)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
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2021-10-20, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
Meta and I have different anti-SK claim points. I’m saying “a wolf wouldn’t do it because they’d be afraid of getting serial-killed”, Meta is saying town wouldn’t do it for the same reasons.
Which... I kind of disagree with because if you’re town, you’re generally more accepting of “I’m going to die at some point” rather than actively trying to avoid the attention of a serial killer.I'm writing stuff, come and read it!
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2021-10-20, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
Something along the lines of "[charactername] is the serial killer, and you can kill them by typing "[playername], I accuse you of being [charactername], the serial killer" in a post. Wasn't there a similar role in Percy Jackson? I first thought it was the Champion of Hera, but they weren't town, so maybe I'm mixing things up again.
Actually the wolves do each need a killing power, you can deduce that from the wording on Caoimhin's. If not, they wouldn't be able to function anymore if they were the last wolf standing.
I too would want Fext dead if I were the serial killer, however because of the bold reveal potentially indicating immunity combined with likely protection from any baners around (identifying the SK is more valuable to town than a flimsy killing power), I'd have targeted AV tonight. Which is apparently what happened, meaning it's entirely possible that the wolves took my suggestion and targeted the serial killer, in which case "well done now tell us who it is please".
It is also the reason I won't be voting for Fext today, I'm not going to do the SK's job for them. Fext can be Last Wolf Left afaic.
Is it more helpful to say "I am neither a wolf nor the serial killer"? Statements about our powers?
Given how AV's day power in Upick 1 worked and Book Wombat's statement earlier, making all-caps statements looks very sus to me. I can't ask you to explain yourself, because it's too easy to go "whoops, I'm sorry", but I want you to know you've gotten my full attention.
Captain Cap's interaction with Caoimhin did not seem out of order to me, more someone wanting to interact with the potential lynch targets and getting drawn in by Caoimhin's attempts to interact and then getting annoyed by the repeated flaws in his reasoning. Only things abnormal about it were that I would have ended up voting for the one that most annoyed me (could just be a difference in personality) and his getting noticeably irritable by the accusations (idem). If it comes down to Captain Cap and Fext tomorrow, I'll be voting for Cap.
For now, however, I'm going withSupagoof. Being a no-show Day 1 and posting just enough not to be auto-lynched is not behaviour that should be encouraged, as that, too, allows wolves to hide easily.
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Oh, another one for Rogan: "I did not use any powers last night". Hope it helps.Last edited by Taffimai; 2021-10-20 at 01:25 PM.
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2021-10-20, 08:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
(Technically those should merely be flavours for the factional kill. Wolves are wolves, after all.)
Given how AV's day power in Upick 1 worked and Book Wombat's statement earlier, making all-caps statements looks very sus to me. I can't ask you to explain yourself, because it's too easy to go "whoops, I'm sorry", but I want you to know you've gotten my full attention.
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Yes, this is about AV.
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2021-10-20, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Heh, I was wondering if you would read me right on that, I did try to drop you some hints.
And yeah, if we're both thinking of the same thing, of which I was directly involved, then yes I'm your man. If you need me to provide confirmation proof via something only you would get, thats fine, just say the word.
As for the vote wagons building, I can't say I wasn't already suspiscious of Cap. Mainly do to his reactions to my probing posts from before, but his explanation and arguments were solid enough for me to wait to pass judgement. I'll read through everything thats occured and then I'll make my tentative vote based on the evidence and anything new that comes to light.
Oh and I think I might actually know Bladescapes roll, if the crossbow information is important.
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2021-10-20, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
It feels like AvatarVecna time.
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Ah I see... That's the fine-print difference.
In which case I would say you are right in general, but it's not impossible to fake. A Hunter of the serial killer seems more likely to receive town's support than a random guy, after all. But I doubt this is going to help us going on.
I Agree it's very likely every wolf has a killing ability, but only one can be used per night.
Not posting day 1 is not good for town, but not posting on the weekend is normal for Goof, as far as I know. So I agree with your general idea, but think Goof would merit an exception for the start.
About the statements, I would rank them this way (most useful first)
I am town.
I am neither mafia nor serial killer.
I didn't use a power last night
I won't comment on the reasons for the ranking, but I think you should be able to figure it out by yourself.
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Oh, I get your feeling. But I give this 90% odds of being the normal, behavior without evil intentions.
Also, I like to be helpful. Last game, I was called a paladin for my behavior. (Too bad I was in fact evil this time). So, if you see me helping with rules questions or info about older games, treat it is NAI.
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Captain Cap (3): Rogan, Snowblaze, Metastachydium
Fext (2): Gac3, Elenna
Supagoof (1): Taffimai
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2021-10-20, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
After today, I kinda suspect my boss might be a wolf. (I mostly kid, I like both my boss and my job, I'm just tired and cranky). Hopefully I'll have time for more analysis later, out of the current wagons I'm leaning towards Captain Cap, mostly because Fext's claims seems odd coming from a wolf. Supagoof not being very active is in line with earlier behavior, but of course there's no reason he can't be honest about that and still a wolf.
I still don't completely trust Rogan but I get a better feeling from him now so since everyone else seems to trust him (did I miss something or is it just from reading him?), I'm okay saving my paranoia about him for later (and trying not to think about that it was around D2 I started trusting Rogan last game...)
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2021-10-20, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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I am not Town. Super helpful right? Also not the Serial Killer or Mafia. Just me, a Survivor. A pacifist too.
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Shall we lynch 'em?
I still don't completely trust Rogan but I get a better feeling from him now so since everyone else seems to trust him
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Re: Upick 2: Electric Boogaloo
Batcathats Boss can go into the pool of possible hostiles, but I won't vote there just yet.
I want to repeat my warning that I don't have mech proof of Captain Caps guilt. However, I am willing to give him at least an 50/50 chance to flip wolf. But I won't mind alternatives.
I can understand your feeling and I promise I won't get mad if you continue to feel that way. I am reasonable sure you are not mafia. I think you won't need to worry a lot, since there is a good chance I will die at night.
That being said, you should not trust me 100% when I am talking about myself.
I'm going to take a guess what my power would answer for each sentence: True. Invalid Action. True. True. True.
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