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2024-03-12, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
FWIW, you quoted Ruck but I think it was me you were quoting. Multiquote stuff happens to me often.
I can see Rich writing it that way.
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He was an integral part of my early education. Base 8 is just like Base 10, if you are missing two fingers!
Ian Hunter and Drew Carey may not agree with Yakov:
https://youtu.be/1qDkZnpOiS8Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-03-13 at 09:31 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-03-12, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
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Haley could have covered Elan's skills easily, they had the telepathy as a backup, and most importantly, Elan asked (implicitly) if he even needed to be in the meeting. The last time we saw Elan in a meeting on-panel, it was a flashback where he was daydreaming about what flavor clouds are (his reasoning being something like: vanilla is the obvious choice, but is that too obvious?).
{scrubbed}Last edited by Peelee; 2024-03-12 at 02:41 PM.
SpoilerI Am A: Chaotic Neutral Human Sorcerer (5th Level)
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2024-03-12, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
I was once at Dark Carnival, a book store in Berkley, when Terry Pratchet was there to do a signing.
He mentioned how before he left England for the USA, people warned him, "Be careful, they're wierd over there."
So, he did the NY, Atlanta, Miami portions of the tour, and mentioned this to people, "They don't mean us, they mean the West Coast."
So, he flew next to Seatle and Portland (Oregon obviously), and mentioned this to people, "Oh, they don't mean us, they mean California."
Next up was the San Diego and LA portions of the trip, "Oh, they don't mean us, they mean the Bay Area."
Next up was San Fransisco, "Oh, they don't mean us, they mean Berkeley."
So now he was in Berkeley, and having related this story, asked: Who do we blame? Dark Carnival wasn't that close to campus, so we discussed it and decided it was probably the university, but someone pointed ut that we could narrow it down further.
The center of wierdness for the entire universe is the Intersection of Telegraph and Bancroft in Berkeley California.
So, now you know, if you need to make fun of someplace, it's the Intersection of Telegraph and Bancroft in Berkeley California. They're wierd there.
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2024-03-12, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-03-12, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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People used to make fun of Cleveland - you know, burning rivers and all that.
Now I see people trying to make fun of San Francisco - homeless people and all that.
The people trying to make fun of San Francisco have never stood on the Golden Gate Bridge and looked across the Bay sparkling in the sunlight as the city rises like a fairy tale from the water. It's easy to do from a distance. It's quite a bit more difficult if you've actually been there.This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2024-03-12, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
No matter where you go...there you are!
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2024-03-12, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
Rapid growth and regeneration is called cancer. Look at even young trolls and you can see the irregular-shaped moles and lesions that indicate advanced melanoma.
Regeneration shortens total lifespan, and helps to increase the per-patient total expenditure on pharmaceuticals.Last edited by brian 333; 2024-03-12 at 03:25 PM.
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2024-03-12, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
Little known fact: after the trolls healed her, Serini thanked them by teaching them how to swindle people with schemes and scams, something she was well-suited to teach, as an Epic Rogue. The surprising part is that they became quite adept at it despite living in an isolated village in the middle of nowhere.
She also taught them how to stealth better, and to this day it's still hard to find the remote Con Trolls.
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2024-03-12, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-03-12, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
After that stretch your tendons and ligaments might need some regenerative therapy of their own.
Serious question: Someone help me with the title pun. I don't see Bloodfeast as red, so the obvious (Red Dragon vs Red Dinosaur) doesn't land for me, and I can't track anything being read in the strip.
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2024-03-12, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
You may not "see" Bloodfeast as Red, but he is Red. Just a different shade of red than the dragon. I'm assuming that the Red vs Red title, while referencing the red dinosaur vs the red dragon, is also meant as a shout-out or comment on Red vs Blue and the recent fall/dissolution of Rooster Teeth, the creators of Red vs. Blue. But it could also just be coincidental.
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2024-03-12, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-03-12, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
I think Calder's going to die in this fight. In the abstract, everything said about how negotiating with him could say something about various other characters is valid...
...but he wasted very little time establishing that he's actually profoundly evil, and I don't think Rich would have done that if he was going for "and then Roy made a deal with Calder."Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2024-03-12, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
No matter where you go...there you are!
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2024-03-12, 06:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
Good quote. I'm sure I had that in the back of my head.
Just in case anyone is interested, Bloodfeast's main colors seem to be a85c44 and 884434. Though both contain lots of red, I agree he's a pretty brown-looking archosaur. (He is also a pretty, brown-looking archosaur, and what a pretty archosaur he is.)Last edited by Bird; 2024-03-12 at 06:37 PM.
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2024-03-12, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
...unless, say, Durkon and V take the lead in making a deal, showing V's further growth in respecting life and showing Durkon that, hey, maybe he can convince Redcloak in the end. Plus the fun of the party's two least-charismatic characters taking the lead in negotiations.
(I don't actually think that will happen, but it occurred to me as I was reading your post. I also think Calder will likely die, but I feel like there must be some way in which his presence leads to further exposition about the Scribble, though that could just be as simple as "and then Calder's comments about surrendering to the Scribble lead Roy et al. to prod Serini further for details on the Scribble.")
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2024-03-12, 06:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Besides, you know the saying: Kill one, and you are a murderer. Kill millions, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Fishman
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2024-03-12, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
You just couldn't con-troll yourself there, could you?
My vote is Haley being the second Red. My first thought was Calder vs. Sunny, but Sunny is orange.
Eugene says that. Nobody else says that. Though, Calder does have a chin-beard...
I had a mental image of Bloodfeast being reduced to lizard form, swallowed whole by a contemptuous Calder, then reverting to full size when Sunny gazes upon his gullet.
Two giant legs tear through Calder's abdomen, the massive allosaurus head splits the neck wide open, and Blood feast has an instant suit of Red Dragonskin armor.
Teary-eyed Belkar says, "That's m'boy!"Last edited by brian 333; 2024-03-12 at 06:53 PM.
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2024-03-12, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
Well, what would be the basis of a deal?
"Surrender, and I'll fight Team Evil?" But why would we trust Calder to honor that deal, as opposed to defecting to the people who would happily help him kill Serini?
I just can't think of anything Calder has to offer that might convince the Order to spare his life. Even if the paladins walked in. Paladins are supposed to be Lawful Good, not Lawful Stupid. We've already disposed of the worst possible portrayed paladin in the person of Miko Miyazaki; O-chul and Lien have a bit more common sense than that. They have no mechanism to restrain an evil doer on this scale AND prep for team evil at the same time.
Remind me, just how strict is the Paladin code? Are Paladins expected to accept surrenders even when there's no reasonable way for it to work? I could see them pushing for surrender if Calder was alone and Team Evil wasn't here about to destroy the world. As it is? I think the paladins would be forced to find some kind of workaround. Or simply leave the room and let their Non-good teammates take care of business .
I guess it all comes down to whether the 12 gods are going to treat this as if they were law robots (and there's only one alignment in the chart like that) or if they are going to filter the law through common sense. I'm guessing the former. And in the worst case, I think I'd rather the paladins leave the team than leave Calder at my back.
So if there IS some way for Calder to get out of this alive by surrendering, I'm not seeing it.
Respectfully,
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2024-03-12, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
The antimagic zone is making everything pale as a visual effect. Try comparing Calder's non AMFed hues from a few pages ago and this shot of Bloodfeast.
I don't see that Calder has anything to offer in a transactional sense, but that doesn't mean that the Order won't accept a surrender anyway. As I pointed out above, Roy, Durkon, Serini, and Vaarsuvious all have a character motivation to speak further if Calder is willing to cease hostilities.
Also, the other option is a deathmatch with a very scary foe, and every round increases the risk the Order loses someone permanently and the resources required to recover while making no progress at all towards their actual goals. On the tabletop, I'd probably let him be tomorrow's adventure to conserve every ounce of fight that I have for the upcoming endgame.Last edited by Provengreil; 2024-03-12 at 07:25 PM.
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2024-03-12, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Do you think Bloodfeast's sudden transformation (and subsequent attack) could qualify as a surprise attack?
RAW would say no since mini Bloodfeast is definitely seen, but in this situation what was seen is definitely NOT what Calder experienced. He seemed surprised.
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2024-03-12, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1299 - The Discussion Thread
"Thursdays. I could never get the hang of Thursdays."-Arthur Dent, The Hitchhiker's Guide
"I had a normal day once. It was a Thursday." -Will Bailey, The West Wing
Roy will be Xykon's Final Boss
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2024-03-12, 07:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-12, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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No matter where you go...there you are!
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2024-03-12, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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The same V that was ready yet again to kill Serina for the vile crime of upstaging them?