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Thread: Detecting creatures
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2024-04-19, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Detecting creatures
So if a creature uses Alter Self, will it still be able to be detected by it's original form? For example, if a ranger's favored enemy is orcs, and an orc uses Alter Self to become a human, will the Ranger still be able to detect it as a favored enemy?
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2024-04-19, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Detecting creatures
This could be a very difficult question but is fortunately very easy.
Alter Self doesn't change types and subtypes, so the orc is still a humanoid (orc), and rangers don't care whether something is 'an orc' they care whether something is a humanoid with the orc subtype. So the ranger can still 'detect' the orc as well as before.
Now, an orc polymorphed into a human...Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2024-04-19, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Detecting creatures
Last edited by Kurald Galain; 2024-04-19 at 06:04 PM.
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2024-04-20, 03:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Detecting creatures
Then the type changes to Humanoid (Human), because "The subject’s creature type and subtype (if any) change to match the new form". Detection methods that solely care about subtype (like anything based in a ranger's favored enemy) would not work.
The orc would still be an orc in important other ways, like qualifying for racial feats and classes - few people on this site believe that changing shape should instantly disqualify you for Headlong Rush or Eye of Gruumsh.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2024-04-21, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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