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2024-05-17, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-17, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: half-breeds, I'm kinda with Psyren on it. One doesn't mix Red and Blue paint and expect chartreuse. 2014 Half-elves having a few traits from elves and then mysteriously having double the skills, as well as getting a +2 to Charisma that neither parent has... it's just odd. Half-orcs are worse, getting something completely new that neither parent provides... it's weird enough that races are so homogeneous when it comes to racial traits; that the intermingling of two disparate species would result in wholly new attributes that 1) are ALWAYS present without fail, regardless, and 2) are completely outside the genetic norm of their parents? Makes no sense.
Now, if HOrcs and HElves were actually unique races that were simply named as such because they LOOK like they might have been descended from human/orc or elf breeding, sure, you'd have a case (and I'd much prefer that, as it fits with the dynamic of 'halfling'). Personally, I'd then go about giving them entirely new racial names, with "half-x" being a racial slur. (I'd be shocked if someone hasn't done this already.)Trollbait extraordinaire
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2024-05-17, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, any idea how they might run “hybrid” system aside from memes about “humans aren’t the only one with inability to keep having babies with anyone and anything”.
Kinda funny when TSR’s refusal to have good Orcs (but good Drows are okay because Drizzt is cool and Greenwood made wholesome Eilistraee worshippers) led to them along Half Orcs (even with ugly backstory if you remember OOTS), which that issue led to…Genasi, Half Elf, Half Dragon, Half Ogre, and Tieflings.Last edited by t209; 2024-05-17 at 05:26 PM.
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2024-05-17, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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The UA at least, laid it out as essentially you get the attributes on one race, and the look of another. So, a half dwarf/elf might get dwarven traits but look elvish, or vice versa. It's a bit less than what should happen genetically (you'd ideally get a stocky elven look with shorter pointed ears (or other random smashing of the two characteristics).)
WotC didn't want to go through the trouble of creating a 'Chinese Menu' of options for every race (choose a few items from column A and a few from column B) - and rightfully so - that way leads to cookie-cutter supremacy - and that defeats the idea of diversity and equality everyone fought about during Covid.Trollbait extraordinaire
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2024-05-17, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am sure it will be up to DMs to decide what species have a reproductive barrier or not.
I think elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, humans and orcs will end up with many babies, including a half-elf/half-halfling who everybody mistakes for a gnome, or a half-gnome/half-orc who gets called a goblin.
Meanwhile, complicated chimeras will be a harder sell, such as a centaur who is also part leonin and part minotaur (aka a lynel from The Legend of Zelda).
Someone in my gaming group had a character from a line of planetouched. Aasimar, axani, cansin, genasi, tiefling, you name it. I found that to be a great idea.
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2024-05-17, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm wondering how this is going to affect future printings of Eberron, wherein Half-Elves (called "Khorvar" in the setting, "children of Khorvaire") actually are their own distinct race. Most Khorvar in the setting couldn't find the original Elf/Human pairing in their own genealogy going back 50 generations, almost all of them are descended from other Khorvar (a Human/Elf pairing will still result in a Khorvar, but have no chance of a Mark of Detection or Storm).
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2024-05-18, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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I dislike the rules implicitly removing the concept of species mixing to create wholly distinct things (Muls being the robust human sized Dwarf is fun).
Apart from that, meh, it won't change my play habits much.
I have been drifting orc as opposed to half-orc and fits a head Canon I made. Half-elf is functionally unchanged in what I wanted to use from it. It also allows a bit more things like Narnia style half-dwarves and such. The only thing is I don't like Tiefling and Assimar within that model. A tiefling-human is unclear how that is different from a tiefling, and an elven Assimar would reasonably be very different from a human.My sig is something witty.
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2024-05-18, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-18, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thinking back on ardlings, it would be great if tieflings kept that playtest's infernal/chthonic/abyssal division, with aasimar getting the matching heavenly/idyllic/exalted subtypes.
I know aasimar were originally derived from angels specifically. But it has been a while since angels were called aasimon and I think MotM did right by connecting aasimar to "a spark of the Upper Planes".
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2024-05-18, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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You could probably do that with Elminster (if he let you anyway) though and he is a human, hence why I included the Chosen of Mystra bit.
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On tools, I would need to see the new options in more detail. If they are like the Xanathar's ones I will likely have similar notes (still mad about not being able to make poisons with a poisoner's kit).My sig is something witty.
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2024-05-18, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-05-19, 03:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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I had an homebrew world were Half-elves were a draconic conspiracy. They were the preferred form for dragons shapshifting into humanoid (look like a human, but can explain their eternal youth by "I'm an half-elf", can explain their extra Charisma by "I'm an half-elf", and the fact that they don't know cultural norms of humans and of elves by "I'm and half-elf"), and there was no "true" half-elf, only dragons and their descendants with humans while shape-shifted.
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2024-05-19, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Part of the issue with 5es half-orc and half-elf is they draw stats from the cultural positions of them.
+2 charisma is because in prior editions half-elves were regularly used as mediators in disputes between elves and humans (partially the age and perspective, half elves occupy that center space so have some capacity to relate to both better).
As for half-orc, they have an in built drive to excel since it helps deflect accusations of weakness or savagery.
Neither of these have a place in current designs thinking. For a little bit for worse and a lot for better, in my humble opinion.My sig is something witty.
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2024-05-22, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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So you chose bad examples here by using Greyhawk one of the settings that assumes near all D&D things are in it.
Teiflings would probably be more common on Oerth than most D&D settings as the Empire of Iuz, Great Kingdom, and Horned Society exist and all three call in tons of Demons and Devils. Iuz is noted for having a very high population of Cambions which would in turn result in large numbers of Tieflings.
Dragonborn were first introduced in 3e which's assumed Greyhawk as the default, the origin there is they were humanoid worshipers of Bahamut, who did a ritual to transform them into dragon people.