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2019-11-20, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, I getcha. I appreciate it, that's even easier to dispute. Haley disagrees with you.
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2019-11-20, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-20, 11:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-11-20, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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To be fair, "you can find an epic level character if you look for one" is probably at least 11 times as likely to be true as "you can find an epic level cleric if you look for one." Perhaps moreso, since high level clerics may tend to end up running churches rather than continuing to adventure.
I should also point out that Haley isn't in a great position to know whether there are any level 17+ clerics in the world. That kind of information probably isn't terribly public, and her search for a cleric who could resurrect Roy mostly consisted of wandering around the wilderness and then talking to a few people in Greysky City (plus the Oracle detour, but Belkar obviously ruined that). If you teleported to all the major cities in the world and talked with well-connected people in each of them, maybe with a few bribes, then maybe you'd be in a better position to know the prevalence of high-level or epic characters.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2019-11-20, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-20, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am under no impression that epic characters are common, but in all the time the world has existed, I don't see why it should be evident that epic characters are so rare that it's impossible to have found three evil casters. It's a self-aware D&D world, and no one ever questions that high level threats exist, so why is it so unbelievable that the casters used for the splice came from this one? Only a generation ago, the Order of the Scribble was an active group of epic adventurers, surely they fought their share of epic threats. The OotS world is a world of campaigns and adventurers, and everyone knows that you gain levels by adventuring. Surely there have been enough campaigns in the past for it to be possible that those three casters were the villains of such campaigns.
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2019-11-20, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Do we know the approximate levels of each of the high clerics at the godsmoot, based on the spells they used to attack or defend the vampires?
Edit: <joke>I am aware that “high cleric” and “highest level cleric” aren’t synonyms, but im looking for any information I can misconstrue and use to buttress my wild and otherwise unsupportable assertions. </joke>Last edited by Dion; 2019-11-20 at 02:38 PM.
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2019-11-20, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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While I agree with the premise that epic level characters are scarce, the sort of search Haley was conducting was very different from just searching for epic level clerics. She was just looking for a cleric that could ressurect Roy, so that means what? A 17+ level cleric I believe. To find one she was going from town to town looking for temples.
Most epic level characters don't just sit around in urban areas waiting for someone to need them, they're either in their own stronghold or on some epic quest.
Granted, even if Haley was instead looking for an epic level cleric, she would likely have much more difficulty (where would she even start). Regardless of if there are any epic level clerics, I would assume there are more level 17 clerics than epic clerics.
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2019-11-20, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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I am pretty sure the three spliced souls are from this world's tenure. Because if they were from a past world:
1) Their souls would have already been absorbed by the relevant outer plane, the Fiends unable to retrieve them.
2) The Fiends wouldn't even remember them or their deeds after the mind wipe.Last edited by The Pilgrim; 2019-11-20 at 03:43 PM.
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2019-11-20, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think we have enough information to answer this question, but I wouldn't assume that the gods would stop granting spells to their followers after the world was destroyed. After all, that could cause them to lose out on Worship, Dedication, and maybe even Belief. There's no plausible reason I can think of for the gods to not continue to grant spells to any remaining followers after the Snarl breaks loose.
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2019-11-20, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-11-20, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe they don't give new clerics (ie children of planar exiles) spells so their expenditure slowly spins down. As for arcane magic: pretty sure the Gods control that too, only they can be a bit harsher because arcane magic is a bunch of bug exploits to divine magics published cheat codes.
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2019-12-11, 11:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-12, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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I don't recall Haley having trouble locating a 17th level cleric during the “Don’t Split the Party” storyline?
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2019-12-12, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-12-12, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-12, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Peelee; 2019-12-12 at 03:41 PM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-12-12, 05:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-13, 06:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-13, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-13, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-29, 06:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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With regards to memory wipe and time etc
I’m pretty sure there was a post by the Giant that the world was created already with grown creatures with false memories
Specifically with regards to Familicde and there being mature black dragons since this world has been around for less time then it would have taken for a dragon to reach ancient age category from egg stage
Extrapolating that to the outer planes one would assume that at the start they weren’t empty of dead souls as the outsiders would get suspicious
So maybe the gods left some souls from previous worlds who were then shaped into the equivalent for this iteration - so an evil corp exec with top range cyberware would be turned into an evil epic caster'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! “The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!" And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered, crying:'Auta i lómë!" The night is passing!"
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2019-12-29, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nothing about false memories (which I never even thought would have been the case), at least in the Famulicide bit.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-12-29, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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1.) The people created at the moment of the planet's creation were all unrelated to each other, or perhaps only related in small groups—a family of 5 or 10 might have been created, but with no relation to all the other families being simultaneously created. Why? Because.
If you create a family that suggests some in that family are older - which by necessity means false memories
Add in that some of those families are dragons adults are going to be hundreds of years old
And I refer you to my point about the outer planes being empty of petitioners being unlikely'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! “The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!" And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered, crying:'Auta i lómë!" The night is passing!"
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2019-12-29, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-04, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Who is Hylgia?
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2020-01-04, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-04, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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