Results 751 to 780 of 1503
-
2012-12-16, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
I agree on the hitpoints, certainly! 2d8 is pocket change. (Literally, since that's less than 30gp worth of wand casting gets you.) Being able to take off non-permanent negative levels and ability damage is still really nice, but not unbalanced. Pocket demi-plane with free healing is just what I'd do as a 15th level Geoccultist.
Few questions and suggestions…
• When a feature refreshes, how does the cost occur? Providing the 100 ebbs to replenish the Healing Springs is trivial if I can provide that over the course of the day, but extremely difficult if I have to pay it as a lump sum.
• Does the Nymph Pool's water refresh automatically?
A nymph pool costs only 100 lb, but the water in it needs to be replaced daily at a cost of 50 lb per day to maintain its purity.
-
2012-12-16, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2007
- Location
- The Frozen North
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Upkeep happens as lump sums, but you don't have to pay for every feature together in the same installment. So yeah, you need 100 ebbs to replenish your Healing Springs. On the other hand, yay, no more negative levels ever!
Does the Nymph Pool's water refresh automatically?
Suggestion- Detonating sunmetal leaves an area unable to grow things. Interaction with geoccult poles isn't specified, but I think it would be cool if it disrupted their connection with the earth, preventing them from being placed in the area.
Originally Posted by Necroticplague
-
2012-12-16, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
I might have missed this, but specifying how the ebbs/metal have to be supplied for both features and poles would be helpful, since it makes a big difference. Otherwise, I would assume the "ebb at a time" cost, which is easy.
Glad you like it! It seemed like it would either be that, or have one of the scarier parts of sunmetal be trivialized by plopping down a pole so cute squirrels and bunnies can move in.
Best way to pay for all those fancy features lying around!
-
2012-12-16, 08:06 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2010
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Seems to me that, at least in the case of Nymph's Pools and Healing Springs (which have the cost for the purpose of keeping the water fresh) should be able to take the cost over time, seeing as the water doesn't all go bad all at once (presumably).
-
2012-12-16, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Well, it's also sort of a balance thing. 100 ebbs over a day is more or less the same as "free". Those same 100 ebbs all at once is an actual price. For the Nymph's Pool, five ebbs in one go (or actually providing 50 lbs. of water, caster level 3 Create Water) isn't hard either way.
-
2012-12-16, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2010
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
-
2012-12-16, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
- Location
- Floating in the void
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Avatar of Furude Setsuna, by Telasi.Originally Posted by Akagi
-
2012-12-16, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2012
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
I might have missed you answering this, but does Push stay coherent when traveling through a YGGD Semi-space?
For example. If I use a Ballistic Engine to launch a bullet through a connected Semi-space will it continue at it's same speed through the portal?
I'm trying to develop a Mass Relay or a method for traveling to other planets without the hassle of using a Spelljamming Vessel (Or perhaps using a Spelljamming Vessel with an Othogonal engine to place a bound connected semi-space on the planet).
Will the 400-Principles for ELDK allow an engine to move at (or perhaps surpass) the speed of light? If so, would it be associated with the merging of the two Disciplines Yggdratecture and Eldrikinetics? Or perhaps Alchemetry to influence the mass of the object being "launched"?Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-12-16 at 08:37 PM.
Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
-
2012-12-16, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2010
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
It doesn't go bad all at once, but you need to replace it all at once. Or, you know, its an abstraction that makes things easier, and helps to establish the sense that gramarie still has some unknown factors to it (like how the vast majority of things that manipulate matter only modify solids, and a whole lot only a specific subset of solids (seriously "solid planetary metal no more than 8 ft volume is a ridiculously specific set of restriction)).
Although, now that I think about it, using brassbrush to its full potential can produce horrifying results, since it seems that BIOY effects could also work, in addition to what's listed. Use some ALCH to turn the copper into iron. Turn iron into ploghistan. Make said phogistan a biollurgical chassis, then use artifical reckoning to give it instinct that make it hilariously easy to train/automatically subservient. Make sure to not give them eve the slightest hint of self-preservation. Use Preternatural Fluids to decrease the melting point of the phlogiston to below that of the temperature it gives off. Since this requires several different specialist principles at work, you'd have to pay someone to help you. But if you can't think of some way to recoup your profits with an infinite amount suicidally loyal creatures made out of molten fire, you clearly aren't trying. Especially if you re-plant them outside the geoculltic buble, so you don't need to babyst them too much (decreased maintenance, either in metals or in time and money setting up an ebb-generation system to maintain them). Like say, selling them as living trebuchet rounds/suicide rushers, seige-breakers, or highly intimidating guard animals. Heck, you could even pull a redcloak:
"Flaming pitch from the catapults? Isn't that a little cliched?"
"What? No, pitch doesn't burn long enough nor cause enough collateral damage."
"Then what the heck are you launching at them?"
"It's complicated, but they're liquid, constantly burning, and suicidally loyal. We have a deal with a guy who gives us a fresh shipment every week."Avatar by TinyMushroom.
-
2012-12-16, 09:02 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
You're already in Geoccultism, so you can make Firesand.
One tablespoon of firesand when mixed with sufficient water will produce flame even hotter than phlogiston (2000 degrees Centigrade) for five minutes before burning out. It also produces 50 cubic feet of superheated dry steam at 500 degrees Centigrade from this reaction. Firesand costs 250 lb for a single 5ft. patch.
I like the image of a Firesand foundry, where Firesand is burned to fuel more Firesand production…
As mentioned before, crystalIn plus a bunch of Whisperreeds will let you generate the ebbs you need easily with only the principles you pick up. Place a Whisperreed at each of several waterfalls, and it's all the sonic energy you need. I trust it more than Phlogiston or Firesand since it can't burn your biome down if something goes wrong.
-
2012-12-16, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2010
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
...
Firesand is native to the desert biome. The two most famous features of deserts are 1:Having very little plant life and 2: having ground that's mostly sand. Sand doesn't burn. So you're not going to burn anything using firesand if you set it up in its native habitat (maybe aside from some random idiot who walks into the system and is then flash-fried). Now, if your mixing it into a swamp, forest, or grassland, yeah, expect things to go up in flames.Avatar by TinyMushroom.
-
2012-12-16, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Well, the point of it is mainly to fuel the nice things we can have in other biomes. Those can be mixed into your desert biome, but if you want a couple of them, you'll need the firesand in your non-desert biome.
By the way, I salute your mad science! I would not make them into liquid, though- I don't think you can have a liquid biostruct. If it's still alive, it may not be able to move. Solid suicidal soldiers are just fine, though. But really… just phlogiston? Why not make it sunmetal?
EDIT: Make them goldIn sunmetal biostructs with the Devil Eye graft and Grasping Mandibles. This allows them to create darkness around themselves that they can see through, grapple as a free action on a successful bite attack, and they deal one negative level per round while they grapple. If you wanted to be evil (duh), you create a bunch of Firesand-fueled Lightning Pools which you charge up. Your soldiers each grab a single pool of water which they store in a special sack. They can now detonate at will.
If only there were a way to make the brassbrush self-fueling. Being able to create a self-replicating plague of gold pole brassbrush to slowly plunge the world into a new ice-age would be fantastic. But it takes 500 lbs. of fuel to make 25 lbs. of brassbrush.Last edited by QuidEst; 2012-12-16 at 09:32 PM.
-
2012-12-16, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2007
- Location
- The Frozen North
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Excellent comments about the consumption rate of poles! I hadn't considered fully how payment would occur when there are multiple features to be maintained every day and puissance needs to be supplied to them.
Here's my addition to the text of GEOC 101, I hope it's a satisfactory compromise!
Originally Posted by Me!Originally Posted by Arcanist
Will the 400-Principles for ELDK allow an engine to move at (or perhaps surpass) the speed of light? If so, would it be associated with the merging of the two Disciplines Yggdratecture and Eldrikinetics? Or perhaps Alchemetry to influence the mass of the object being "launched"?
Appropriately enough I have a thermo-fluids final tomorrow, so I need to get to sleep, but tomorrow I hope to have up the arcanitect and perhaps the first 400-level theory!
-
2012-12-16, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2010
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Normally, you can't have a liquid biostructure because you can only turn solids into biostructure. However, it doesn't say that it has to stay solid afterwards. Plus, if we want to get real technical, they are technically "sprouted" solid, then their phlogistan effects kick in, and they then melt themselves. Being liquid is mostly just a bonus, of course, since it means that they can ooze under gates and through portcullises, murder holes, nets, snares and similar. Of course, this gives me an idea:Go in the opposite direction. Instead, increase the melting temperature, and then increase its heat capacity so that even though it's hotter than iron, it refuses to melt. Under their touch, weapons, gates, and locks (probably the door, too) are turned into a giant pile of slag. Of course, they'd need to be launched by seige launchers modified by ALCH101 so that they don't melt upon touching these abominations. Heck, even the ground would probably turn to sand as the walk over it, after burning out any vegetation. Takes a lot of time (a whole lot of ALCH101 prepping), but is totally worth it. Of course, speaking of the seige weapon, why can't those be made under a similar process? Make the troops/rounds and their launcher all in one go. Needs a hell of a lot of ebbs, but since they constantly emit massive amounts of heat, having them hold some lightning pool water and lug around an iceIn (set up insomewhere colder) will allow these huys to pay for themselves, ebbs-wise.
Avatar by TinyMushroom.
-
2012-12-16, 10:18 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
- Location
- Where I live.
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Brassbush can only duplicate Copper or Iron for the purpose of what can be applied to them; it would be a lot more efficient to design a clump of Iron Brassbush that generates more desert, including more Brassbush, which basically lets you coat the world in Desert.
-
2012-12-16, 11:02 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Alchemetry lets you turn one metal into another, so you can grow Brassbrush as anything. Unfortunately, there's no way to provide enough fuel for it to make more Brassbrush.
However, it doesn't say that it has to stay solid afterwards.
If you can get somebody who can swing the 85 DC check for sunmetal, I'd do that. If not, then phlogiston seems like a good choice.
Increasing heat capacity does not allow you to change temperature. It just means it's harder to cool off- but since it's already reheats if you try, I don't think that's relevant.
having them hold some lightning pool water and lug around an iceIn (set up insomewhere colder) will allow these huys to pay for themselves, ebbs-wise.
Similarly, it also can only survive in a set temperature range (no more than a 100 degree Centigrade spread). You can set this range when you prepare the principle; ambient temperatures outside this range are treated as extreme weather for the biostructure.
-
2012-12-16, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
- Location
- Where I live.
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Wait, Kellus, does Brassbush actually count as metal for the purpose of conversion? From how I read the entry on Brassbush, it just counts as Copper (or Iron) for the purposes of applying Copper/Iron stuff from Eldrikinetics and the like, not for the purpose of effects that generally affect metals.
EDIT: Also, Kellus and I are currently hashing out Platinum Arcanodynamics; it's quite rad.
And then... Platinum Geoccultism!
-
2012-12-16, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2007
- Location
- The Frozen North
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
-
2012-12-16, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2012
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-12-16 at 11:51 PM.
Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
-
2012-12-17, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2012
- Location
- Ruling Mordor
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Mister Kellus, That picture of Mewtwo is quite creepy...
Now, I thought I would suggest this:
Upper Krust, or the Creator of Immortals handbook, Has Sizes that might better fit your Colossal++(Insert many more +'s) Instead of just super Colossal sizes, Just a thought, Oh yeah, This is awesome, Now that I have actually read it.
-
2012-12-17, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
-
2012-12-17, 12:20 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2012
- Location
- Ruling Mordor
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
-
2012-12-17, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2012
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
EHHHHH~~~ I guess as long as you are snatching a rule from the Cursed Book of "Epic+" and not actually using the book shouldn't be too bad...
WELL! I heard about this, but the idea of a creature inhaling a poisoness gas with NO relation to Oxygen save for a few related components and exhaling pure Oxygen sounds a little... "Broken"? I mean, a Gramarist has all the money he'll ever need if he just makes a Biostructure that eats meat and craps Platinum so... yeah... Idk how to explain it
EDIT: Just noticed if I really want a creature with an unlimited breath weapon I can just have a creature in exhale Pure Oxygen and with a lighter in front of their mouth (Or better yet for a more "controlled" fire you can just have the creature spit Gasoline)Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-12-17 at 12:30 AM.
Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
-
2012-12-17, 12:29 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2012
- Location
- Ruling Mordor
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
-
2012-12-17, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
That is... Uh... Not broken at all? And written right there in the basic principle. Also, biostructure doesn't eat.
And technically it is Carbon Dioxide into Oxigen, which changes very litte in the end, merely swaping around the more usual breathing mechanism.
------------
Also, I'm of the oppinion that past colossal size, you should just stop using size categories and simply make use of areas.
-
2012-12-17, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2010
- Location
- Hell's Heart
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Hey, I was wondering if you could consider maybe improving the rules for ballistic weaponry. As it is, the damage output is... kind of pitiful, which makes eldrikinetic guns all but worthless. Maybe something that scaled with momentum, rather than just with mass.
-
2012-12-17, 12:45 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2012
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Last edited by Arcanist; 2012-12-17 at 02:12 AM.
Larloch, The Shadow King (w/ Ioun Stones) avatar by Iron Penguin
-
2012-12-17, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
Yes, it is why I suggested it in the first place. You said you were having problems finding easy sources of oxigen and I pointed that out.
----
As for the balistic engine, isn't there a way to have it increase the ammount of push it can generate? As it stands the thing can't even ever be used to shoot an arrow. It seens.
-
2012-12-17, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2011
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
It does not exhale pure oxygen. It inhales air, and converts the carbon dioxide (or another gas from the list) to oxygen. It can't process diatomic nitrogen, which makes up most of the air, so you're still left with that. If it could exhale pure oxygen, I'd expect the breath weapon trick to simply ignite its lungs.
In general, I've found Eldrikinetics to be a rather inefficient way to move things. I'd rather just grab YGGD 212 and make it fall with style. It takes about thirty of them to make a siege engine, so ten twenty-four hour days, but once you do that, you can just drop 200lb. rocks in to the bottom to launch them for 20d6 every round.
-
2012-12-17, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2012
- Location
- Darkest Part of your mind
- Gender
Re: She Blinded Me with Science! (Magitek That Doesn't Make Me Cry Myself To Sleep)
It's a work in progress, but here's the first bit of the Troll Ebbshaper, a Troll that has a.... diffrent way of approching some parts of Gramire.