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Thread: let's consider Kickstarter done
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2017-05-24, 02:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
It's all relative. If those "Beanie Babies" retain their price for the longer than your lifespan (or at least, the window from your own retirement to when your next of kin can use them as collateral to jump-start their own lives) then that is actually value, not merely price.
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2017-05-24, 03:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
I was a Patience for a signed book backer, and I received mine already--so it's not like *all* Patience backers have had to wait for everything else.
Agreed on the second point. Live in the UK, have bought every single hard copy book Rich has released (SoD twice, since I got a signed one too!). I prefer having a nice solid object than a stream of bits and bytes.
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2017-05-24, 04:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
Burlew created his own problems with the Kickstarter campaign but it'd be interesting to know what problems he thinks he avoided by avoiding banks or venture capitalists.
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2017-05-24, 05:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
The main comic would probably be finished by now if it wasn't for the kickstarter rewards.
I believe the KS killed the comic, for me, as I lost pretty much all interest I once had in it due to how long it is taking.
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2017-05-24, 06:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
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2017-05-24, 06:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-05-24, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
I have to be honest, I also lost some interest for the main comic because of how long it takes between updates, but it was unavoidable. without kickstarter, rich would run out of money. and while the regular comic would certainly have advanced far more without the kickstarter, we got plenty of goodies that are still related to the main comic.
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2017-05-24, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
You're right, taking people's money for a product then never giving them that product is an excellent way of making money.
Unfortunately, it's also extremely immoral and illegal. But, you know, who has time to worry about all the fiddely details?
(I mean, you do realize you are advocating Rich steal from his most ardent fanbase, right? You're saying he should have promised people books in the kickstarter then just never printed those books and kept the money. Can you please explain how this was a good idea in your head?)Last edited by littlebum2002; 2017-05-24 at 11:38 AM.
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2017-05-24, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
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2017-05-24, 12:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
I'd just like to mention that people have complained constantly that the comic is too slow since long, long before the Kickstarter.
I am getting the impression that some people think that without the Kickstarter work*, the comic would either 1) reliably update three times a week, or 2) ditch whichever of its plots the person doing the thinking considers the most Obviously, Definitely and Objectively Filler. I promise that that is not the case.
*This also ignores the damage to Rich's thumb, but, again, the complaints have been constant for years before the thumb injury. The comic's pace is what it is. I'll be surprised if it hasn't finished by 2030, but that's all I'm saying.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2017-05-24, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
But...PDFs don't require overhead, thus negating the need for a kickstarter
I'm guessing she wanted him to do something more like a gofundme, with the objective of "give me money so I can work faster". And while I'm sure that would have raised money, I doubt it would have made a million.
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2017-05-24, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-05-24, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
Correct.
Anyone want to guess what comic was done halfway between September 29, 2003 (the date of the first comic) and today? #738. It came out in July, 2010, before the kickstarter, before the injury, before most of the health issues. So even without these, the best scenario would be that we would be at comic #1476 right now. There is no way this comic would be done right now in any circumstances.
Also, as others have pointed out, without the Kickstarter he probably would have had to write this comic in his free time with a normal full time job, so it's probably going faster if anything.Last edited by littlebum2002; 2017-05-24 at 02:59 PM.
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2017-05-24, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: let's consider Kickstarter done
I don't understand why this thread is still going.
The presumption that we have any right to "consider Kickstarter done" is absurd from the very premise.
If the situation were reversed and the Giant were attempting to beg out of the remaining commitments then backers would have a right to voice their opinions in support or disagreement with his decision.
But the idea that the forum can just declare the Giant free of his commitment and think that declaration would be relevant at all?
It seems pretty clearly to me to be a thinly veiled way to wish for more frequent updates to the main comic while skirting the rules about not discussing that.
I would have expected this thread to be locked by now.