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    Hehe, Elan's punchline. Now I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more of Minrah.

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    Quite over specific right there.
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    Wait, CAN vampires turn invisible? They're all clerics right?

    (I mean, there's the Trickery domain, but I'm not sure Hel inherited that particular skill from dear old dad.)
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    Query: will all these dead dwarves rise as vampires? Can anything be done to prevent that, like cutting off their heads or staking them? I've always been a little fuzzy regarding D&D's rules for vampires.
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    Blasted vampires, littering all over the place. The druids will make them rue this day.
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    Protip, Roy: Do NOT let V and Minrah engage in small talk with each other under any circumstances. The world will end before they're done regardless of how the vote goes.
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    I love how self-aware Elan is becoming about his over-thinking and over-qualifying things he says. She fits in fine here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaarsuvius
    I will keep my See Invisibility spell active for as long as it persists
    Which is 10 minutes per level, so plenty of time for a battle, if they only could find them.

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    Quick question: can they prevent these dead dwarves from rising as vampires within a day? Would cutting off their heads or staking them work?
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    Hmmm. I really think that a lot of Belkar's "evil" genuinely is amorality. He's not above using dark humor to twist the knife when the mood strikes him, but I don't perceive any self awareness in the "food wrapper" and "littering" comments.

    He wasn't trying to be clever or darkly humorous, he genuinely doesn't see what the big deal is. Everybody's got to eat, right?

    Which makes me sad, because I think someone that Belkar cares about is going to have to die, so that Belkar can make the connection between how that makes him feel, and how he made the loved ones of everyone he ever killed feel.

    Unfortunately, Belkar only cares about one living being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Wait, CAN vampires turn invisible? They're all clerics right?

    (I mean, there's the Trickery domain, but I'm not sure Hel inherited that particular skill from dear old dad.)
    It's probably better to be on the lookout for possibly invisible vampires than it is to get ambushed by improbably invisible vampires.

    Anyway, this was a good comic. What are the odds on Minrah coming along with the Order, either as Durkon's replacement or as an additional party member?
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    Well done, Mr. Burlew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggling Ghast View Post
    Query: will all these dead dwarves rise as vampires? Can anything be done to prevent that, like cutting off their heads or staking them? I've always been a little fuzzy regarding D&D's rules for vampires.
    Only the ones drained to 0 constitution through blood drain should rise as vampires (or spawn if they were low level). However, the temple has 1D4 days to handle things (Malack gave an average/estimate of about 3 days).

    There's a few preemptive things they could do, which would kill the vampire the moment it animated (in theory). The best option would be to drive stakes through all their hearts and then either cut off their heads and stuff them full of holy wafers or leave the bodies out in the sun and pull the stakes out then, effectively dusting the bodies. They could also tie the bodies under some moving water (which would eat through 1/3 of their health per round). Other options may exist as the setting permits (such as burning the body to ash before they fully turn).
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    OK, shocked nobody has mentioned this yet...

    The Sandstone/Sandrock thing. Do we think this is a typo, an honest mistake, or a major clue about our seemingly innocent dwarven acolytes?

    I am leaning heavily towards the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durkoala View Post
    Anyway, this was a good comic. What are the odds on Minrah coming along with the Order, either as Durkon's replacement or as an additional party member?
    I'd say low. She's going to be needed in the temple - labour shortages and all that. I suppose she could resign, but that doesn't sound like the kind of thing a Thor priest would do.

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    Well, she does fit in rather well.
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    Unfortunately, Belkar only cares about one living being.
    Two. Bloodfeast and Mr. Scruffy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durkoala View Post
    It's probably better to be on the lookout for possibly invisible vampires than it is to get ambushed by improbably invisible vampires.

    Anyway, this was a good comic. What are the odds on Minrah coming along with the Order, either as Durkon's replacement or as an additional party member?
    First, I'd like to know why she called him brother SandROCK instead of Sandstone. Who is right?

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    First, I'd like to know why she called him brother SandROCK instead of Sandstone. Who is right?
    Rich probably typed the wrong name in. It happens.
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    So, how many of them are going to pop back up in three days (without precautions, obvs)? All of them?

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    Hmmm. I really think that a lot of Belkar's "evil" genuinely is amorality. He's not above using dark humor to twist the knife when the mood strikes him, but I don't perceive any self awareness in the "food wrapper" and "littering" comments.

    He wasn't trying to be clever or darkly humorous, he genuinely doesn't see what the big deal is. Everybody's got to eat, right?

    Which makes me sad, because I think someone that Belkar cares about is going to have to die, so that Belkar can make the connection between how that makes him feel, and how he made the loved ones of everyone he ever killed feel.

    Unfortunately, Belkar only cares about one living being.
    *Bloodfeast cries quietly in the bag of holding*
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    So, how many of them are going to pop back up in three days (without precautions, obvs)? All of them?
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    Two. Bloodfeast and Mr. Scruffy.
    Eh. I suspect that if Bloodfeast got taken down in battle, Belkar would be like "Aw. That sucks, he was cool. But at least he went down fighting." Whereas Scruffy dying would be a "big NO" moment.
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    Of all the Order members she could relate to, I wasn't really expecting Minrah's closest peer to be Elan.

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    When re-reading the comic months from now, I'll appreciate this comic more. Right now, I'm on the edge of my seat going "Come on!". The comic unfolds at a great pace when reading it as a cohesive unit, something I'm always surprised at how well Rich does.
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    Am I alone in thinking 'oh, so that door the vamps attacked was underground then'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talion View Post
    Only the ones drained to 0 constitution through blood drain should rise as vampires (or spawn if they were low level). However, the temple has 1D4 days to handle things (Malack gave an average/estimate of about 3 days).
    It also requires a burial that creates their special coffin home. I imagine as long that process is disrupted somehow (cremation, don't bury the body, don't use a coffin in the burial, holy wafers, etc.) eventually the Negative Energy in the corpse will fail to form into a vampire spirit and disperse.
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    "Wow she really does not like litterbugs"

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