LGBTAitp - Part Nineteen

[Lix Lorn]

Hallo to all, and welcome to the nineteenth iteration of our safe, helpful place!

This is a thread where we Playgrounders, and LGBTAitp in particular, gather to discuss, share our experiences, give general advice and support one another in such matters as arise relating to, well, the world beyond heteronormativity.

Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment.

• Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
• Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, plz)
• It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
• Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe )

If you would rather be anonymous when asking for advice or sharing your story or views, you can use the address below to send a message to be posted in this thread via proxy.

http://anonmail.smeenet.org/

Keep in mind that content which contain strong language may be filtered (Plus, y'know, the forum-filters), and content that violates the forum rules won't be posted at all.

Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:

1. LGBT people in the playground
   
2. LGBT people in the playground - part II
   
3. LGBTitp - part III
   
4. LGBTitp 4: We are a family?
   
5. LGBTitp - Part Five
   
6. LGBTitp - Part Six
   
7. LGBTitp - Part Seven
   
8. LGBTitp - Part Eight
   
9. LGBTitp - Part Nine
   
10. LGBTAitp - Part Ten
    
11. LGBTAitp - Part Eleven
    
12. LGBTAitp - Part Twelve
    
13. LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen
    
14. LGBTAitp - Part Fourteen
    
15. LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen
    
16. LGBTAitp - Part Sixteen
    
17. LGBTAitp - Part Seventeen
    
18. LGBTAitp - Part Eighteen!

And, for reference, here is the Thousand&Wordster Dictionary of Commonly Used LGBTAitp Words and Phrases

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Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
QUILTBAG:

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Q - Queer and Questioning
U - Unidentified
I - Intersex
L - Lesbian
T - Transgender, Transexual
B - Bisexual
A - Asexual
G - Gay, Genderqueer

Allies: Straight people that support equality for sexuality and gender minorities.
MtF: Male-to-Female: A woman born with male nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans woman)
FtM: Female-to-Male: A man born with female nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans man)
GQ: Genderqueer.
CS: Cis-sexual: sex and gender match (a male with male nibblies, a female with female nibblies.
TS: Transsexual: Sex and gender disparity.
HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Plastic surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. Not very common.

Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between male and female.
Agendered: Someone who feels neither male nor female.
Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
Bisexual: A person who is attracted to both male and female people.
Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
Demisexual: A person who is only sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
Androsexual: A person (of any gender identity) who is sexually attracted to the male-bodied form.
Gynosexual: A person (of any gender identity) who is sexually attracted to the female-bodied form
Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.
Radosexual: A person who is only attracted to rad people.
Pomosexual: A person who avoids SO labels.

Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to. (SO)
Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)

[Al'izh'dheg]

Hooray for late Christmas presents! :)

[Astrella]

Yay, new thread. :)

Oh, littlelynn (author of the Rain webcomic) posted a new years resolution thingie on DeviantArt, so that made me think and my main resolution for the next year is to go to my gender therapist again as soon as possible (I didn't go again after my first meeting, but I feel a lot stronger in my identity now and I feel I have things figured out a bit better.) and hopefully start transitioning / presenting as female sometime next term.

[Asta Kask]

Everything that brings more boobs into the world is welcome.

[Eldest]

That's great! Good luck.

[Asta Kask]

*sternly*

Lix, have you told people to close the old thread?

[Al'izh'dheg]

Yay, new thread. :)

Oh, littlelynn (author of the Rain webcomic) posted a new years resolution thingie on DeviantArt, so that made me think and my main resolution for the next year is to go to my gender therapist again as soon as possible (I didn't go again after my first meeting, but I feel a lot stronger in my identity now and I feel I have things figured out a bit better.) and hopefully start transitioning / presenting as female sometime next term.

OMG I love Rain. That comic is one of the best things I ever got from this thread. :)

More on topic, I am so happy for you for making this decision! Please keep me...erm us informed of every little detail hon. *hugs*

[noparlpf]

Woo new thread!

What's that webcomic about?

[Mina Kobold]

Ah, clean, uncorrupted, fresh, one-page, wonderful new thread. ^_^

Must. Corrupt. @_@

*paints blue*

MWAHAHAHA!

Do you mean Rain, noparlpf? It's about a MtF transsexual trying to pass at school, the shenanigans happening while the characters try to cover their secrets and some drama from their relationships and fears.

If it is another comic, then I have no clue. :3

[Eldest]

Does anybody have a link? My googleing has failed...

[Astrella]

It's on her DeviantArt page.

[Al'izh'dheg]

You all forgot to also mention how incredibly awesome it is. :) Rain consistently makes me smile every time I see it.

[Eldest]

Thankye, much obliged.

[Qaera]

These threads move far too fast now o.o

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[Coidzor]

These threads move far too fast now o.o

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Their speed has always been rather variable. Go back and read through some of the old ones if you don't believe me.

Besides, as long as we're not having walls of text, it's pretty easy to read through an entire page of one-liners.

[Heliomance]

Yay! *boogies fabulously*

[noparlpf]

Re: Rain
Is this it? Earlier when I Googled "rain webcomic" I got this instead.
Whichever it turns out to be, it sounds neat, and seeing as I'm in between books right now I think I'll check it out.

[golentan]

Hey, shiny new thread smell. Posting mostly so I can find it later.

[Arachu]

Farewell, old thread. I shall think of you every time I have a thought that isn't horrifying.

[SiuiS]

These threads move far too fast now o.o

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Their speed has always been rather variable. Go back and read through some of the old ones if you don't believe me.

Besides, as long as we're not having walls of text, it's pretty easy to read through an entire page of one-liners.

Ehheh heh... >>;

How 'bout a compromise, mates? I'll make judicious use of labeled spoiler boxes, and y'all don't tar-and-feather me?

[Mystic Muse]

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Ehheh heh... >>;

How 'bout a compromise, mates? I'll make judicious use of labeled spoiler boxes, and y'all don't tar-and-feather me? [/color]

I think this is less the kind of thread where we tar are feather people, and more the kind of thread where we give them milk and cookies.

[Eldest]

*looks up from baking*
My cookies!

Your color is broken, btw.

[golentan]

I think this is less the kind of thread where we tar are feather people, and more the kind of thread where we give them milk and cookies.

Yeah, if we were to coat anyone in a sticky brown-black substance, it would be chocolate. And we'd offer to help lick it off.

Thread as a whole, mind, not all of us as individuals.

[Kindablue]

Yeah, if we were to coat anyone in a sticky brown-black substance, it would be chocolate. And we'd offer to help lick it off.

Thread as a whole, mind, not all of us as individuals.

We are all individuals!
We are all individuals!
We are all individuals!
We are all individuals!

It's on her DeviantArt page.

Thanks! Hadn't heard of that; rather enjoyed it.

[KenderWizard]

*sternly*

Lix, have you told people to close the old thread?

Are we supposed to do that?

Also, from last thread:

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You don't find a lack of repetition there to be a poor sexual education? You don't find willfully and negligently ignoring it to be someone choosing to have a poor sexual education? You don't find parents not informing their daughters of this to be gross negligence and/or ignorance?

Yes, the pill can totally stop periods, you just have to not take the sugar pills they include in each box and have a prescription system such that you can get it filled before the dead week.

Oh, right, sorry, I forgot we all got a brilliant sex education and we're all rich enough to play with our medicine. Seriously? You can start using tampons at, like, 10, if you get early periods. It's really easy to make a mistake. And if your parents don't know about TSS and your school doesn't give you a sex education, and you aren't able to read the fine print on the tampon instructions (due to illiteracy, blindness, youth, even bad ADD, or just being given a handful of tampons from someone instead of buying a packet), oh well, sucks to be you? The tampon companies hardly daub "WARNING, this product might RANDOMLY KILL YOU!!!" all over them.

I'm not saying you're totally wrong: people should know this stuff but some people don't, and it's not their fault. And seriously, dude, all it takes is a few extra hours to be dangerous. I've gone to sleep at midnight intending to get up in the morning and not woken up until 4pm the next day. That's extreme due to my fatigue, but it's really easy to do something like go for a nap at hour 4 and sleep too long and leave it in there. Which will be fine 99.9% of the time, but might not be, and hardly constitutes gross personal negligence. You have a point, but I really don't think you should make sweeping judgements about people who get a particular kind of infection or disease, it can smack a bit close to "Well, anyone who gets it deserves it."

And I know you can skip a period with the pill, but it is recommended that you don't make a habit of it, plus it costs extra money and is hardly an option for everyone.

[noparlpf]

Are we supposed to do that?

Also, from last thread:

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Oh, right, sorry, I forgot we all got a brilliant sex education and we're all rich enough to play with our medicine. Seriously? You can start using tampons at, like, 10, if you get early periods. It's really easy to make a mistake. And if your parents don't know about TSS and your school doesn't give you a sex education, and you aren't able to read the fine print on the tampon instructions (due to illiteracy, blindness, youth, even bad ADD, or just being given a handful of tampons from someone instead of buying a packet), oh well, sucks to be you? The tampon companies hardly daub "WARNING, this product might RANDOMLY KILL YOU!!!" all over them.

I'm not saying you're totally wrong: people should know this stuff but some people don't, and it's not their fault. And seriously, dude, all it takes is a few extra hours to be dangerous. I've gone to sleep at midnight intending to get up in the morning and not woken up until 4pm the next day. That's extreme due to my fatigue, but it's really easy to do something like go for a nap at hour 4 and sleep too long and leave it in there. Which will be fine 99.9% of the time, but might not be, and hardly constitutes gross personal negligence. You have a point, but I really don't think you should make sweeping judgements about people who get a particular kind of infection or disease, it can smack a bit close to "Well, anyone who gets it deserves it."

And I know you can skip a period with the pill, but it is recommended that you don't make a habit of it, plus it costs extra money and is hardly an option for everyone.

Hey, you even say "dude" sometimes! We are the same person.
Most products ought to post "Warning: This product might randomly kill you" somewhere on them. Even if it would usually just be in small print somewhere. But seriously, the number of seemingly harmless things I've managed to make go horribly wrong...it's a miracle I'm still alive.
Aside from that, I meant to comment on this last thread. But, as usual, KenderWizard has stated my opinion for me and in much more eloquent fashion. There's even a personal anecdote in there.
Let me just throw in a statistic I vaguely remember from something I read last year: in some study done sometime in the last couple of years, around 15% of American girls ages 7-8 had already entered puberty (but not necessarily begun menstruating). I think the numbers varied a bit by race and affluence (which affects nutrition), but the average was around 15%. Would you expect an eight-year-old to know about TSS or have been given any kind of health/sex ed yet?

[Knaight]

Thanks! Hadn't heard of that; rather enjoyed it.

The comic bit has a rather glacial update pace. It's worth keeping up with, and it's far better than some, but it is slow.

[Astrella]

The comic bit has a rather glacial update pace. It's worth keeping up with, and it's far better than some, but it is slow.

It's on a Ma / Wo / Fri update schedule if I remember correctly (though it's on a break now), I thought that was pretty much the standard for most story-based webcomics?

[supernerd]

Wow, I'm new to these threads, and I'm so glad they exist. I've been going through the questioning phase to end up as a homosexual today. The thing is, I tend to enjoy charisma builds(comes from being a multiclass nerd/thespian) and I've never played a straight character. And you wouldn't believe how much my pan Battledancer/Favored soul scarred our tomb of horrors DM(gender bended and left with nothing but a cloak for clothing due to an encounter with a gelatinous cube).

Anyways, thanks for being here, I've yet to check out Rain but I doubt I'll be disappointed.

I guess it's truly out now, at least for my forum avatar.

Also, I've been meaning to add the LGBTitP to my signature, but I wasn't sure what order to color it.

For those who have been intrigued as to my progress in accepting my sexuality:

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Highschool sophomore
Self opinion: Definitely gay

Parents: I told them, and they're trying to accept it but seem to be in denial. We haven't talked much on the subject, but it seems that they really don't approve but it is comforting to know they care about their son.

Friends/Classmates: several figured it out on their own, I've told several, and they're all cool with it, even my D&D group's "homophobe" was cool with it after I said I generally disapprove of straight chasing(ie I'm not gonna do it again, completely different person though). I rarely run into trouble with classmates because of my sexuality.

Boyfriend: haven't had one officially but had two relationships, first started fairly well, but he was a drugie, and I couldn't get him to quit, and he had loyalty issues but he is still special, it was almost kissing him at a birthday party sleep over that really made me question myself and give my feelings towards men serious thought. Current one is pretty conservative, and doesn't want to date without being a real possibillity. Yeah he says his first kiss will be at the altar, but I did get him to say that he'd kiss me if I caught him under the mistletoe. Much more sincere. Still has a dark side though.

Pride: I made a rainbow bracelet in fiber design, but I ended up accidentally using teal instead of blue. Whoops! I have yet to join my school's GSA, but I really want to, although I don't know what my parents will say about it.

Hmm, wail of the banshee how much I am willing to tell complete strangers. I'd say weird, but wail of the banshee is so much better.

[Knaight]

It's on a Ma / Wo / Fri update schedule if I remember correctly (though it's on a break now), I thought that was pretty much the standard for most story-based webcomics?

It is allegedly on a Monday, Wednesday, Friday update schedule. In practice, it updates at nowhere near 3 times per week.