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2009-11-17, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
The temperature band system presented in the Frostburn and Sandstorm supplements works well for most extreme climates. However, under this system, the threat posed by -300°F temperatures is the same as that from -60°F, which doesn’t seem entirely accurate. Therefore, a new temperature band was devised, preternatural cold.
Preternatural Cold:
Temperatures below -180°F are considered preternatural cold. Unprotected characters exposed to preternatural cold take 2d6 points of cold damage and 2d4 points on nonlethal damage per minute (no save). For every 20 degrees below -180°F (rounded up), the cold damage increases by 1d6 and the nonlethal damage increases by 1d4. Therefore, an unprotected character in -230°F weather would take 4d6 points of cold damage and 4d4 points on nonlethal damage per minute. Partially protected characters take damage once per 10 minutes instead of once per minute.
A level of protection of 5 or 6 provides partial protection against preternatural cold. Nothing outside of total immunity to cold can provide complete protection against the vicious bite of preternatural cold.Keep 3.5 alive!
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2009-11-17, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
At -300 F, I'd be more concerned about the oxygen in the atmosphere liquefying than about the cold. It's literally physically impossible to breathe because there isn't anything to breathe.
At -109 F, carbon dioxide will solidify. This gas is vital for breathing, because the presence of CO2 is required to trigger the breathing reflex. Without it, you literally would have to consciously think about breathing as a specific action.
Basically, at extreme cold temperatures, the physical composition of what you're breathing begins to break down into an unbreathable form, which has a far more significant effect on human activity than mere coldness.Last edited by Ashtagon; 2009-11-17 at 03:33 PM.
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2009-11-17, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-17, 06:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
As an engineer this thread give me teh happy... and it managed to do it without killing any catgirls in the main post, and only a few in Ashtagon's reply.
As an engineer I also approve of the occasional dead catgirl.[Public Service Announcement]P.E.A.C.H stands for Please Examine And Critique Honestly[/Public Service Announcement]
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2009-11-17, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-17, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Anyone posting on this forum should well aware of the fact that D&D has many creatures without the need to breathe. Off the top of my head, there's elementals, earth gensai, undead, and constructs. I'm sure I'm missing some, but you get the idea.
I could say that suffocation rules begin to apply at a certain point, or increase the nonlethal damage. How do you suggest I remedy this?
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Dead catgirl? That's a new one.Keep 3.5 alive!
Creepy psychics, shark dogs, and whatever else I feel like drawing.
Sci-Fi/Fantasy Homebrew Setting: Breakdown
I am willing and able to critique 3.5 homebrews. I'm still learning though, and I may not be able to help with unfamiliar material. PM me if you are having trouble getting your work reviewed.
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2009-11-18, 12:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-18, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-18, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Originally Posted by TackyhillbilluHomebrew
Please feel free to PM me any thoughts on my homebrew (or comment in the thread if it's not too old).
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2009-11-18, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Pfft... if you are going to ask such questions, why are you stopping at the easy ones?
What about four-state Schrodinger's Cat-girls (who are simultaneously alive, dead, undead, and deathless until observed)?Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-11-18 at 01:23 AM.
[Public Service Announcement]P.E.A.C.H stands for Please Examine And Critique Honestly[/Public Service Announcement]
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2010-02-19, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-19, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Come on, we can find more states of existence! How about catgirls that are alive, dead, undead, deathless, solid, liquid, gaseous, plasma, Boze-Einstein Condensates, baryonic, non-baryonic and ketchup until observed?
If I creep into your house in the dead of night and strangle you while you sleep, you probably messed up your grammar.
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2010-02-20, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Being an HVAC student this thread makes me smile.
Of course I would like to know what happens at -460F? Save vs death every round?
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2010-02-20, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-20, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
The lich hides his phylactery in space?
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2010-02-20, 01:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
My campaign setting is so cool, it goes below absolute zero!
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2010-02-20, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-20, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-20, 06:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-20, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
*Shamelessly steals template from the Sleight of Hand thread*
SpoilerSpoilerI'll have a signature one day...
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2010-02-20, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's a decent sleight of hand check you just made, I've got to say.
Last edited by Fortuna; 2010-02-20 at 07:18 PM.
If I creep into your house in the dead of night and strangle you while you sleep, you probably messed up your grammar.
I'm always extremely careful to hedge myself against absolute statements.
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2010-02-20, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Why does he have two pairs of sunglasses?
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2010-02-20, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
I'm in the brigade that touts itself as the "Arctic Wolves" and I once (accidentally) used the weather to TPK stupid southlander players three days into the adventure, two days before the first combat encounter was slated to take place. How often do you think it'll come up?
I'd put the start line at -80, not -180, though. -80 is about the coldest you'll find on Earth.
As an aside, I apparently come with cold protection 5 or a permanent endure elements effect 'cause I can go out in -30 for several hours wearing street clothes and be fine. These rules could definitely go with some nod towards acclimatization - say a +2 bonus to the Fort save if you've spent a week in that temperature band.Last edited by Solaris; 2010-02-20 at 07:42 PM.
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2010-02-20, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-21, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
I would start the Preternatural Cold at -120, simply so that the lowest band (Supernatural? I don't have the book handy) has a temperature range of at least 30 degrees.
Regardless of how you set it up, though, you'll run into the odd situation where a character can wander around in a sub-absolute zero environment and survive, either from high cold resistance or cold immunity. At some point, you'll want to consider more than just damage.
Negative thirty degrees?! As in, thirty celcius/sixty fahrenheit below freezing? I can wander around outside in a t-shirt and a light jacket in twenty fahrenheit without much problem - assuming no wind - but either you can't feel cold or your definition of "street clothes" is a bit different than mine.
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2010-02-21, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
Players Guide to Faerun has some planar regions being cold enough that you take 3d10 cold damage per round.
Or even 3d12 damage, in one case.Marut-2 Avatar by Serpentine
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2010-02-21, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
The lowest band starts at -50. It's Unearthly Cold, -50 F or less.
Minus thirty Fahrenheit. I'm American, I assume everyone uses the same system I do even though nobody else does. At minus sixty I put on a jacket over my long-sleeved shirt and blue jeans. I wear a hat and gloves at -20/-30ish, too.Last edited by Solaris; 2010-02-21 at 03:16 PM.
My latest homebrew: Majokko base class and Spellcaster Dilettante feats for D&D 3.5 and Races as Classes for PTU.
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2010-02-21, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Preternatural Cold (3.5 Frostburn Temperature Band, PEACH)
I don't know you people, but it's currently about -5°C around here during the day, and I don't have a problem going outside in a t-shirt. True, that's only for twenty minutes or so at a time, but it's really not that cold.
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2010-02-21, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-21, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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