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2015-08-13, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Hey, remember Loki was the one with enough common sense to NOT taunt the god-killing abomination.
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2015-08-13, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Hoping it's not a violation of rules to speculate upon this, but I think Rich had this entire sequence more or less ready to go before publishing the first strip, because he knew that waiting a long time to see the next episode would be agonizing to his readers. It's also likely that this particular scene has been bouncing around in his brain for years; this is a climatic moment.
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2015-08-13, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Well. Hel stands to clean up here in the souls department if the world is destroyed, what with all the worshippers of the Northern Gods who won't be dying honourably in battle. A "yes" vote by Durkon is looking likely.
Yet I can't help but think that Hel's big scheme involves more than just having her representative show up and cast a vote at Godsmoot (even if it turns out to be the deciding one). We shall see.
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2015-08-13, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
I wonder how Odin chose which god would speak for each side? I assume it came down to Odin's choice.
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"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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2015-08-13, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Ooo a three pager.
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2015-08-13, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
I'll second the hope that Roy's speech will be useful.
Also, are the gods just not commenting on the world inside the Snarl?I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2015-08-13, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
The important difference here is that the Dark One would have leverage in the prior case that he doesn't in this one. If the world gets remade without him having that leverage (especially if it comes out that his divinely sanctioned priest is the one trying to control the gates - which is something that Roy might divulge), I doubt that the other gods will give him all the influence he thinks he deserves.
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2015-08-13, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-13, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Why didn't Roy bring up the world in the rift?! It seems to me that the gods themselves don't fully understand what is happening. Even if the gods can't hear him, I would expect him to mention it in his rousing speech.
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2015-08-13, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Roy: "Hey, I'm the mortal asking you to give me more time to fix the problem, but there's a planet in that rift, I have no idea how it got there or what it means, but it may be important. Anyway, like I was saying, I'm totally able to solve the problem and will do so if you give me some more time, I understand what needs to be done and I'll do it. Except for that planet thing, it's got me totally baffled. Hope it's not too relevant to what I need to do or whether I'm actually able to solve the problem."
Loki: "Screw it everyone, I'm changing my vote to Yes."
I assume you have something else in mind, just what about the planet do you think he SHOULD be saying about the planet?
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2015-08-13, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Theory that Monster In The Darkness is Snarl Jr. is disproved then. Or... Not?
Agreed. And how awesome they finnaly decided to act... Sigh. Next time try to do something before the "KRAAAAAAAKOOOOOOOM" noise!
In OOtS universe the year is 1185. I'm right? Let's read this stip again then.
Panel 6. The Orlace says that he is going to die again on March 26, year 1187... So I think gods will not destroy the world. But I can't wait to see what will happen next!
And I hope if Durkula will vote for "Yes" for destroying the world, Roy will not start rambling:
Durkon! What the heck!? This is not the right way!
And finnaly will be reacting like he should be. This strip basically allowed this kind of stiuation to occur.
Btw. Anyone knows what is happening at the places where other rifts are located?Last edited by Hazetar; 2015-08-13 at 03:56 PM. Reason: Question!
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2015-08-13, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Why would Loki vote yes? I mean, seriously, where's the fun in that??
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2015-08-13, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Actually, your speech is quintessential Roy. I totally think he would say something like that.
If I was pressed, I would expect Roy to include it in his speech because the gods think that they know what will happen, and the fact that they don't know about the world within the rift implies that they don't know as much as they think they do. That perhaps, the Snarl is more powerful now, or no longer exists, and re-creating the world is not an option or unnecessary - saving this one is the preferred option.
Basically, Roy can (futility, they can't hear him) try do two things: 1) instill confidence in his ability to save the world, and 2) sow doubt that the gods can actually remake the prison.Last edited by DR27; 2015-08-13 at 03:58 PM.
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2015-08-13, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
So, the gods can only hear each other, and not the people. Sounds like politics here on Earth.
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2015-08-13, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Well, after all those years, I'm more on the opinion that multiple-comic updates are due to the fact that The Giant always delivers a punchline at the last panel of the update. When the plot gets too convulted than he can't get a punchline in the last panel of a page, he waits until drawing the next one and posts them all in one go.
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2015-08-13, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-13, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
In-comic Answer: Roy has no reason to think that the gods don't already know about the other planet. Just because he didn't know—and Shojo didn't know—doesn't mean that the gods don't know. Whether they know or not, it is not unreasonable for Roy to assume that they do and just weren't sharing.
Out-of-comic Answer: There is only so much room I am willing to spend on a speech that ultimately really only matters for what it says about Roy. I chose to focus on the emotional aspects that Roy might speak about rather than having him bring up something the audience already knows to people who can't hear him anyway. This strip had enough words already.Rich Burlew
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2015-08-13, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Hmmm... I wonder what Hel will ask for in exchange for her unexpected last-minute swing vote...
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2015-08-13, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
So, the souls wouldn't be destroyed. And they would create a new world, in which Goblins may have an equal voice (making Redcloak a winner as well). I know what his God would vote, but considering he's not here, he may not be invited to pitch in at all.
I'm kind of rooting for world destruction now. I mean, not quite as good as "the goblins get better rights in this world, not the next one" but still not too bad. In a world where the afterlife exists and everyone knows it, death just isn't completely as bad.
Now, the big problem is the alignment afterlives. They could end up separating families, friends, loved ones in general. If they're not allowed to visit, that part definitely sucks.
Either way, I don't think the comic is going in this direction. Whatever direction it's going, I'm sure it will be great, and I know the story ends well... for some, but I'm still worried about my favourite character and his entire race.
I was surprised that only 2 Gods said their piece, but having all of them speak would take way too long I guess.
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2015-08-13, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Hey, but did anyone comment about the strip title? It immediately made me think about Phil. No, not the lawyer!
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2015-08-13, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Huh.
I am not surprised by any of this in the least for some reason. I mean, of course the gods are out of touch with people, of course the argument against destroying the world sounds like an irresponsible person trying to procrastinate, of course the only person actually caring about the lives on the ground is the guy that has actually lived among people. Won't be surprised when the vote somehow doesn't destroy the world though.
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2015-08-13, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
"The Gods can only hear each other."
Too bad they don't have the remote sensing divine ability that 3.x deities normally have
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2015-08-13, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
In panel 9 (when the gods' images are being summoned), it should be either "proxy" or "proxies".
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2015-08-13, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Loki - technically the evil god - being the one defending the mortals was a genious touch, and something typical of Rich nowdays. Loved it!
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2015-08-13, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-13, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-13, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Where is HPoH? Durkula may have just walked through the center and away for some other purpose.
I suspect Xykon already has the final gate under his command, which is why they're not waiting.
First panel there's an orc, so perhaps Dark Lord is there?
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2015-08-13, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Which god will proclaim "Make OOTS Great Again!"?
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2015-08-13, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
What I like about this strip is that it confirms that the gods knew about the rifts and the gates the entire time - they just decided to let the mortals try to handle it.
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2015-08-13, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #998 - The Discussion Thread
Huh
You know, I'm actually really surprised that destroying the world won't destroy the souls of everyone in it. I'd always figured that the permanent destruction of the immortal souls of all their followers was the main thing stopping the gods from just hitting the reset button.
Nice speech though, RoyI am: Neutral Good: -2 chaos, -21 evil and 15 balance!
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