Dethy VIII: Game over

[Saposhiente]

Dethy VIII

Dethy is a werewolf game of logic, where everyone has a scry and is trying to find the liar.
Taking exactly 5 people, no exceptions, so sign up fast!
Rules:

• The stuff at WW Central
• All Cops begin the game with a 'scoop' of a random other player, telling the cop what they'd scry the other player as. The Mafia learns what roles have scooped him, as if he had used his watch his back ability.
• The game begins in Day
• Day ends when a majority of living players vote to lynch another living player, or after 72 hours, when the lynch will be decided randomly. Not lynching is not an option. You can choose to have your vote not count for the purpose of ending day for the first 48 hours by specifying that it is a deadline vote. After 48 hours, deadline votes will be counted as normal votes.
• Night ends when all actions are in, with a 48 hour deadline. No-killing is not an option, if necessary the kill will be decided randomly.
• Roles are not revealed upon death
• No PMs
• No Cryptography. I don't care if I'm the only one who has tried it.

Roles:
All roles have a scry action at night. The Mafia's goal is to eliminate the Cops, and the Cops' goal is to lynch the Mafia. Cops are not told which Cop they are, only that they are a Cop.

• Mafia: He must nightkill a player every night. He may:
  
  • Scry: Determine the exact role of target player OR
  • Watch his back: Find out what roles (not players) scried him that night (if any).
• Sane Cop: He scies people accurately
• Insane Cop: He scries people as Innocent when Guilty and as Guilty when Innocent
• Naive Cop: He scries everybody as Innocent
• Paranoid Cop: He scries everybody as Guilty

About the stuff I changed from the previous:
Decided that the Social Cop denied the Town too much info to be fun to play with. Also determined that completing the analysis program would require the aid of a college-level course in game theory. So the next game will be me taking a rough stab at balance with two mafia.
Player List:
5/5 players

1. cd4
2. Matthias2207
3. super dark33
4. usourselves&we
5. TBFProgrammer

Players on the waitlist for 2-Dethy

1. Grue Bait
2. RuneboundShade
3. bladescape
4. Ur-Quan

[TBFProgrammer]

Gah, grabbing last slot before finishing reading rules.

EDIT: definitely in. Very interesting.

[Grue Bait]

I'd like to play if someone doesn't confirm.

[usourselves&we]

We are here and ready to play.

[RuneboundShade]

Erm... unless I'm mistaken, I reserved a slot for this?

(Well, unless you take '*wants to play in dethy*' as anything else.)

[Matthias2207]

YAY! DETHY!
Confirmed.

[bladescape]

Reserving for next game.

[Ur-Quan]

I'd like to play if someone doesn't confirm.

Same as Grue Bait.

[Saposhiente]

Erm... unless I'm mistaken, I reserved a slot for this?

(Well, unless you take '*wants to play in dethy*' as anything else.)

The people who had reserved slots had taken said slots many many months ago back in the time of Dethy VII.
Unconfirmed players (Whom I already PMed) have 24 hours to confirm or be replaced.

[cd4]

I will join this game, though I can only get on at certain times of day and might find everything I want to say already said and nothing more for me to say.

[super dark33]

Yeeeeeehaw!
I confirm my entrence to this jolly good playfare ol' chaps!

[Saposhiente]

Cop Role PM: (So that narrator PMs can't be abused)

Spoiler

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You are a Cop. You are trying to find and lynch the Mafia with the aid of your scry and the scries of others. You have one of the following roles (You do not know which)

• Sane Cop: He scies people accurately
• Insane Cop: He scries people as Innocent when Guilty and as Guilty when Innocent
• Naive Cop: He scries everybody as Innocent
• Paranoid Cop: He scries everybody as Guilty

Your Scoop is: <Player> seems <Guilty/Innocent>

Roles have been assigned, sending PMs now.

[Saposhiente]

Day 1 Start
Ends when a majority has been reached, with a deadline of 72 hours

[TBFProgrammer]

So, lets make this a little harder for mister Mafioso. I think we should all list only one of the two pieces of information we have, until everyone has volunteered something, then list the other side. I got a scoop on cd4.

[Matthias2207]

I scried [Player] as Innocent.

[super dark33]

I scried somone as innocent.

[usourselves&we]

. . . scries as guilty, figured we'd let 'someone' sweat it out a bit to go along with TBF's plan.

[cd4]

Well I scried Matthias2207 as Guilty, being the last player to post part of the scry I might as well post the whole thing.

[TBFProgrammer]

Right, full version: I've cd4 as guilty.


So far:

{table=head]Target|cd4|Matthias2207|super dark33|usourselves&we|TBFProgrammer
cd4|||||Guilty
Matthias2207|Guilty||||
super dark33|||||
usourselves&we|||||
TBFProgrammer|||||
|||||
Target Unknown||Innocent|Innocent|Guilty|
[/table]

(Read the table by selecting a person across the top and then reading their scries down the column, or selecting a person in the target list and reading across to find out how they were scried by different people).

[Matthias2207]

{table=head]Target|cd4|Matthias2207|super dark33|usourselves&we|TBFProgrammer
cd4||Innocent|||Guilty
Matthias2207|Guilty||||
super dark33|||||
usourselves&we|||||
TBFProgrammer|||Innocent||
|||||
Target Unknown||||Guilty|
[/table]
@V Got it included.

[super dark33]

Scried TBF as innocent.

[usourselves&we]

{table=head]Target|cd4|Matthias2207|super dark33|usourselves&we|TBFProgrammer
cd4||Innocent|||Guilty
Matthias2207|Guilty||||
super dark33|||||
usourselves&we|||||
TBFProgrammer|||Innocent|Guilty|
[/table]

Sorry for what delay we may have caused at sister's house watching animals, all is settled now posting on this side will continue. Who wants to start the logic?
< Just woke up. . . give us a few hours.

[Matthias2207]

cd4 scried as guilty by TBF and innocent by me.
TBF scried as guilty by &we and innocent by SD
I scried guilty by cd4.
If cd4 is wolf, TBF is paranoid or normal, I'm insane or naive
If TBF is wolf, &we is paranoid or normal, SD is insane or naive
If I'm wolf, cd4 is paranoid or normal, otherwise he's insane
If &we is wolf... don't know.
If SD is wolf... ?

cd4, TBF and &we are not naive.
SD and I are not paranoid.

[TBFProgrammer]

cd4 suspicion table:
{table=head]Player|Sane|Insane|Naive|Paranoid|Mafia
cd4|No|No|No|No|Yes
Matthias2207|No|A|B|No|No
super dark33|B|No|A|No|No
usourselves&we|No|B|No|A|No
TBFProgrammer|A|No|No|B|No
[/table]

Matt suspicion table:
{table=head]Player|Sane|Insane|Naive|Paranoid|Mafia
cd4|Yes|No|No|No|No
Matthias2207|No|No|No|No|Yes
super dark33|No|No|Yes|No|No
usourselves&we|No|A|No|B|No
TBFProgrammer|No|B|No|A|No
[/table]

super dark suspicion table: super dark can not be mafia!
{table=head]Player|Sane|Insane|Naive|Paranoid|Mafia
cd4|No|3x|No|3x|No
Matthias2207|Only|No|Only|No|No
super dark33|No|No|No|No|Yes
usourselves&we|No|3x|No|3x|No
TBFProgrammer|No|3x|No|3x|No
[/table]

&we suspicion table:
{table=head]Player|Sane|Insane|Naive|Paranoid|Mafia
cd4|No|AB|No|CD|No
Matthias2207|AC|No|BD|No|No
super dark33|BD|No|AC|No|No
usourselves&we|No|No|No|No|Yes
TBFProgrammer|No|CD|No|AB|No
[/table]

TBF suspicion table:
{table=head]Player|Sane|Insane|Naive|Paranoid|Mafia
cd4|No|A|No|B|No
Matthias2207|A|No|B|No|No
super dark33|No|B|A|No|No
usourselves&we|B|No|No|A|No
TBFProgrammer|No|No|No|No|Yes
[/table]



Edit: of the four remaining possible Mafias, Matt's table is the easiest to work with, while &we's is the most challenging one to work with. cd4 and I rest to the &we side of center. We don't have enough info to determine exactly who is the Mafia.

If Matt is the mafia, he knows who the sane cop is, whereas no other potential mafia would.

So, time for all suspects to state who they'd like to lynch:
I think we should lynch cd4 and create three entirely different scenarios, instead of having two that effectively work the same way.

Then super dark33, being the only one of us we can all trust, can decide how things should go (including asking for more information or deciding we should decide the lynch another way).

[Matthias2207]

I suspect cd4 too. He was the last to post, said he scried me as guilty, and TBF scried cd4 as guilty. I suspect I'm insane or naive, where naive is the most likely. [/gut feeling]

[usourselves&we]

Then super dark33, being the only one of us we can all trust, can decide how things should go (including asking for more information or deciding we should decide the lynch another way).

Umm, we don't think Dark would last the night, being a confirmed good guy and all. . .

At the moment we are suspicious of TBF, but we are insane and paranoid in real life so it would probably be fitting to be one or the other here.

[TBFProgrammer]

We have him for Today, at least, which means he can call the shots for now. Obviously scry targets have to be left to individual people, as we can't set up a guaranteed 3-fold trap.

[super dark33]

So i take the shot?
Well, i say we kill TBF, as two of us scried him, and that can clear more things between the two of us.
Even if not mafia, that can say im either sane or naive, and &we Paranoid or insane.
SO kill TBFprogrammer i say!

[Matthias2207]

Your logic also applies to killing cd4.
I still say we should kill him.

[Saposhiente]

WOW. I just figured out how to make D1 analysis trivial, no use of programs required. If only someone else would run these things...