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    Does it come in a gold plated cup on a silver platter?
    No but I admit that high taxes on luxury goods does help fund a decent welfare state.

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    Does it come in a gold plated cup on a silver platter?
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    Does it come in a gold plated cup on a silver platter?

    I regularly pay $6-$8 for a pint of non-swill beer near and in San Francisco so £4.64 to £6.19.

    Doesn't seem farfetched given rents in London.

    Speaking of London and Londoners my hart goes to them.

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    Most likely the terrorists will get more active next month since last July was relatively deadly in Central Europe and France.

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    It's an unfortunate and monstruous act of evil to say the least. I feel sorry for the families of those affected, and hope that the responsible face the consequences of their actions, despite how some people will claim they are martyrs.

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    No but I admit that high taxes on luxury goods does help fund a decent welfare state.
    In some ways I envy that tax setup.
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    My prayers and thoughts are with London and Manchester today :(.

    According to reports, three men drove a van into a crowd of people, then disembarked with knives and started stabbing people.

    The police killed them all in eight minutes from the initial 999 call, so well done, Bobbies.

    Even so .. why does this feel like a random encounter at the beginning of a final fantasy game? Knives?

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    The police killed them all in eight minutes from the initial 999 call, so well done, Bobbies.
    Clearly three random 1st Level thugs.
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    Even so .. why does this feel like a random encounter at the beginning of a final fantasy game?
    It's even got a plucky hero and that staple of video games: the crate.

    "I threw the first crate and I knew he was going to dodge it. While he was dodging it, I walked towards him and hit him in the head with the other crate.” Classic combo attack, there. No one expects you to have a second crate.
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    Well, this got off topic fast...
    Anyway, my sympathies for the people of Manchester and London, I've got a few friends there, who were luckily untouched by the attacks.
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    As far as I know the people I know in the area are safe, which is a relief. I always feel guilty when I think "at least no one I care about personally was affected", but I guess that's only human.

    And to help distract myself from feeling bad, more humor.

    From the article about the bad-ass baker:
    A Spanish man tried to defend a woman who was being stabbed with a skateboard
    I don't know whether be impressed at the skills of the attacker or the lack brains on his part. Or just lament/praise poor wording in general.

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    All condolences and prayers to the people in London.


    Watched a bit of the concert that was held to honour Manchester and London. Apparently they raised around $/£ 3 mil for the Red Cross, but someone can correct me on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWR View Post
    As far as I know the people I know in the area are safe, which is a relief. I always feel guilty when I think "at least no one I care about personally was affected", but I guess that's only human.

    And to help distract myself from feeling bad, more humor.

    From the article about the bad-ass baker:


    I don't know whether be impressed at the skills of the attacker or the lack brains on his part. Or just lament/praise poor wording in general.
    I don't know if it was the same source, but I came across a very similarly-worded passage myself earlier and while my initial reaction was that it was badly worded I then wondered how one could phrase it differently. "Defended a woman with a skateboard from being stabbed" is equally ambiguous and just as clumsy. "Defended with a skateboard a woman from being stabbed" sounds like robo-police reading a statement, or worse, a legal document. I think you have to introduce a comma: "Defended a woman from being stabbed, with a skateboard", or "Defended a woman using his skateboard, against an attempt to stab her".

    Unfortunately, last I heard, the skateboard hero was among the missing, though hopefully he's turned up since I checked the news at lunchtime.
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    I don't know if it was the same source, but I came across a very similarly-worded passage myself earlier and while my initial reaction was that it was badly worded I then wondered how one could phrase it differently. "Defended a woman with a skateboard from being stabbed" is equally ambiguous and just as clumsy. "Defended with a skateboard a woman from being stabbed" sounds like robo-police reading a statement, or worse, a legal document. I think you have to introduce a comma: "Defended a woman from being stabbed, with a skateboard", or "Defended a woman using his skateboard, against an attempt to stab her".

    Unfortunately, last I heard, the skateboard hero was among the missing, though hopefully he's turned up since I checked the news at lunchtime.
    'Used a skateboard to defend a woman being attacked' was my first thought.

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    So, I've had a surreal couple of days since coming back from holiday. First I came back to work and found out that one of my colleagues in our Sheffield office had died in the Manchester attack. She wasn't someone I knew personally and I'm not even sure I'd ever spoken to her, but it's odd to have it brought closer to home like that. Our CEO made quite a nice statement and there's been lots of things sent round about keeping safe, as well as support for anyone that's affected by her passing.

    Then today, one of my colleagues spoke to a relative of one of the victims. She was apparently lovely, but understandably very emotional and it shook up the guy who took the call pretty badly.

    RIP to them both, and all the other victims.
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    Seriously. Drinks in central London are mad expensive. I'd say "it makes me glad I'm a teetotaler," but they tend to charge just as much for soft drinks!

    I'm loving the #ThingsThatLeaveBritainReeling tweets...


    And about no-go zones:

    Well, this IS the city that managed to make jokes about the Blitz in-between bombings. (Like a shop getting its frontage blown off, sweeping up the glass, and hanging out a "More Open Than Usual" sign the next morning.)

    Brits are hardier than many folks give them credit for.

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    The rail replacement bus service inflicted on thousands of Londoners as a result of the attack (and consequently London Bridge station being closed) was the greatest crime of all. Obviously, not really. But rail replacement bus services are terrible, and Londoners were making jokes about them last time so it only seems right.
    London Bridge is my nearest major interchange station and on Sunday I was trying to get out of the city, which took me longer than usual for that reason.
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    Well, this IS the city that managed to make jokes about the Blitz in-between bombings. (Like a shop getting its frontage blown off, sweeping up the glass, and hanging out a "More Open Than Usual" sign the next morning.)

    Brits are hardier than many folks give them credit for.
    It's amazing what you'll put up with, when you have no choice because that's where you live. London has been terrorised for a long time, by people way more organised and better funded than these idiots.

    I'm not saying it's not horrible and shocking. It is, and my heart goes out to those affected. But on the scale of "things that have happened to London - even in my lifetime, never mind going all the way back to the Blitz"? It's just another footnote.
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    I am so sorry for those effected by this, luckily I live in the US and no one I know was effected by this. Still I wish any who were effected by these horrible events to never have to go through this sort of thing again, in fact I wish that for all people.

    also I am mortified by how our ignorant president talked about the situation on twitter and how he manipulated the mayor of London's words.

    also my heart goes out to all those brave heroes (they really are heroes) who, instead of running away like most, tried to stop these terror attacks before the police got to the scene. these heroes risked there lives, and some lost them, to save others, they are the type of people the world need more of.



    disclaimer: I didn't read a ton about these events so if I got anything wrong please tell me but also I meant no disrespect towards anyone. also I probably used 'effected' wrong, I probably should have used 'affected'
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    also I probably used 'effected' wrong, I probably should have used 'affected'
    Yes, you did. 'Effected' means put something into effect, as in "I effected a step change in our company's policy." A person can't really be effected; it doesn't make sense.
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    Yes, you did. 'Effected' means put something into effect, as in "I effected a step change in our company's policy." A person can't really be effected; it doesn't make sense.
    Actually there is a way a person can be effected, but it involves conception and an incubation time.

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    There's also this guy . Evidently he saw one of the terrorists was wearing a Manchester Arsenal shirt and that plus the four-five pints he had pushed the football hooligan button in his brain. He took on all three of them at once.

    Awesome guy.

    BTW, what is Millwall?

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    BTW, what is Millwall?
    Hahahaha.

    HAHAHAHAHA.

    Arsenal is a football club from Northeast London with a reputation for being effete toffs. Millwall is a football club from Southeast London with a reputation for being violent thugs. Hopefully that explains it?
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    It does, actually. Thank you.

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    This is how you know they're his mates and not just friends.

    Courage and humour.

    An island that very much "punches above it's weight" indeed.

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    Unfortunately, last I heard, the skateboard hero was among the missing, though hopefully he's turned up since I checked the news at lunchtime.
    Unfortunately they found him.

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