EMPIRE! A Community World-Building Game II: 2 Quest, 2 Curious

[SamBurke]

Since you scratched all this bit out does that mean we're still using the original system? (+1 for 4-7, +2 for 8+)

Yeah, I'd like to know as well... I was so confused looking over the backlog from this weekend.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Round 5 Trade!

Confirmed by All Parties:

Marriage - Varel of the Heartwaste and Zhela of Ashenia

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Marriage - Prince Tikta Satato of Raaneka and Lady Cassandra of Bordeux

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The Southern Triumvirate:

Participants: Ignato Empire, Genivana, and Hrathan-Tuor.

Alliance of mutual military aid, cultural exchange, and trade. All signatory nations pledge mutual military cooperation in defensive actions and in mutually agreed upon actions of expansion. Each nation shall maintain sovereign control over their military forces barring times of trouble in which the most capable military leader shall take over command until the threat has been dealt with. Trade consists of Ignato Goats for Genivana Vegetables, and Genivana Vegetables for Tuorian Fine Crafted Goods.

• Pact of Cultural Exchange
  
  
  • Seekers and other representatives of the Radurjic Faith will be free to travel freely and spread their teachings unabated across the lands of the signatory nations outside the normal constraints of local law.
    
  • Hrathan-Tuor merchants will be allowed to establish Guilds within the lands of the signatory nations unabated outside the normal constraints of local law.
    
  • Ignato Imperials will be allowed to build and establish military outposts within the lands of the signatory nations unabated outside the normal constraints of local law.
  • All citizens from all signatory nations shall be allowed free passage throughout the lands of the signatory nations.
  
  
• Administration of the Southern Triumvirate
  
  • The Southern Triumvirate is run and administered by the three heads of state from the signatory nations, with each decision regarding the Triumvirate as a whole passing through a vote between the three nations. No nation may abstain so as to prevent a clear decisions and each vote counts equally among the representatives. Decisions outside the purview of the Triumvirate as a whole regarding local matters need not pass through a vote such as local trade agreements, minor exploration, or other non-coordinated actions. Any action with far reaching consequences or necessitating the aid of at least one other signatory nation must be voted on and rejection defeats the plan and removes it from being brought up again for a minimum of 5 years.
  • A 2/3 majority vote is needed to approve an action and if the declining signatory nation's participation is needed to complete the task they are compelled to lend their assistance to the best of their ability.

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The Alliance of Scale & Sky:

Participants: Ignato Empire, Alydaxia, and Scla'ca

Alliance is a pact of mutual non-interference, trade and cultural exchange. All signatory nations will respect the military actions of all other signed nations and will not interfere or intervene unless their assistance is requested and given freely. The Cult of the Sky religion may be preached freely within all the lands held by the signatory nations. Trade includes Ignato Goats for Scla'ca Gold and Ignato Spices for Alydaxian Silver.

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Treaty of Wind & Stone - Added Celero

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Saurian Alliance:

Participants: Scla’ca and Alydaxis.

Treaty of mutual defense, freedom of movement, religon and trade. Any decisions must be by unanimous vote of the alliance’s contigents. Trade includes Scla´ca Gold to Alydaxi Ordinarium.

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353 Treaty of Ryazen Bay:

Participants: Bordeux, Ashenia, Crima, Sulvian Primarchy, and The Jeweled Cities.

Treaty of mutual defense, diplomatic immunity and trade, as well as a priority on Naval activities. Designates that Ashenia is to create the Grand Naval Academy building in The Jeweled Cities, and the The Jeweled Cities will provide a coastal defense of the Union's shores, as well as patrols to protect the Union's shipping routes. Additionally, The Jeweled Cities will create a Navy for Crima, and therefore provide the Technology for Ocean Faring ships. Trade includes Gems of The Jeweled Cities for the allowance of a coastal port in Crima, and Bordeux Timber to The Jeweled Cities.

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Grand Coalition - Added Lyradis

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Raaneka/Jeweled Treaty:

Participants: Raaneka and The Jeweled Cities

A trade agreement of Raaneki Wine for Gems from The Jeweled Cities

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Alydaxis/Jeweled Treaty:

Participants: Alydaxis and The Jeweled Cities

A trade agreement of Alydaxian Ordinarium for Kelp Oil from The Jeweled Cities

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Grmanhil/Qarimos Alliance:

Participants: Grmanhil and Qarimos

A trade agreement of Grmanhilli Iron for Qarimosi Elephants

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Unconfirmed:

Trade with the Qarimosi for ocean-going vessels.

Expired Trade Attempts:
Qarimos/Guilder - Trade Crops for Spices - Unconfirmed by Guilder

[SamBurke]

Round 5 Trade!

Expired Trade Attempts:
Qarimos/Guilder - Trade Crops for Spices - Unconfirmed by Guilder

I was under the impression that given the traitorous failure of the tech, I was getting the one-time use of tech in return for the lifetime of trading Qarimos for crops. Perhaps Avr could correct me if I'm wrong? If I'm not, then this isn't expired but completed.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I was under the impression that given the traitorous failure of the tech, I was getting the one-time use of tech in return for the lifetime of trading Qarimos for crops. Perhaps Avr could correct me if I'm wrong? If I'm not, then this isn't expired but completed.

Whatever the details, I didn't see anything stated in your actions confirming the trade. If there was any, you can link it and I'll accept it. Qarimos I believe had it listed within their actions, but it was unconfirmed from you 2 rounds ago.

[SamBurke]

2. Trade with the Qarimosi for ocean-going vessels. [CURIOSITY]

This should be what you're looking for, correct?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

4: Agree trade w/Guilder (crops for spices) [Diplomacy]

2. Trade with the Qarimosi for ocean-going vessels. [CURIOSITY]

These two actions do not match.

[zabbarot]

If anyone is genuinely interested in my contribution to the Blazing Temple thread, the spirit quest is go. The Blazing Avatar ate the spice melange osuro, and we're off to find god.

[SamBurke]

These two actions do not match.

Allow me to go talk with Avr, I guess?

[Logic]

Oh, and Morph, not only was the Blazing Avatar invited to the World's fair, but the Salterri Imperium was as well.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Allow me to go talk with Avr, I guess?

Well, the spice for crops is out, but the ship trade still has this round. I'll add it to the unconfirmed trades. Make sure when you list trades, that you list what you're giving and what you're getting. Details need to be set so I can update them, and so people know the details of the trade.

Edit: However, if you're voted into the Dawn League, you'll be able to merge trades with Qarimos and any of the other members, so there's that.

[Zap Dynamic]

If anyone is genuinely interested in my contribution to the Blazing Temple thread, the spirit quest is go. The Blazing Avatar ate the spice melange osuro, and we're off to find god.

Eeeeeeexcellent.

[lt_murgen]

No. The naval base in Crima is something the Jewelled Cities wanted, and I have no idea why. There is no curiosity check to get the technology at all, it is simply given to us after the Jewelled Cities build one unit of naval units for Crima. Thus, delayed until ships can be built.
The Jewelled Cities is building the base, hence their paying of rent for land.

The building I am creating will house the academy once done. The academy is an institution and thus separate from the buildings built to house it, just as a family is separate from the house they live in. Ashenia knows nothing of sea travel, thus we could not create such an academy, but we do know how to build so we can put up a very ornate roof over the academy's head.

The naval base was wanted mostly as a way to have a small piece of land under my nominal control. Our crews tend to be mostly naked former pirates, so it is for the benefit of the Cree that I can 'bar the gates' so to speak. Not to keep the Crima out, but to keep my folks in.

Ashenia is right on. The Jeweled Cities have been working on an academy for some time, but the Inner Sea Conference showed them how pathetic their buildings were compared to the continentals. Ashenia was gracious enough to spare some of their stonesmiths to create something beautiful.

I don't think it needs to be a Grand Project, but maybe 2 turns (since this turn and next turn I still have to complete the project?)

[BladeofObliviom]

The naval base was wanted mostly as a way to have a small piece of land under my nominal control. Our crews tend to be mostly naked former pirates, so it is for the benefit of the Cree that I can 'bar the gates' so to speak. Not to keep the Crima out, but to keep my folks in.

Plus it has the side benefit of allowing crews from the Jeweled Isles some access to Crima's school system in the meantime while that Naval Academy is being built. Being able to do math and to read your orders is important!

(Assuming that they're willing to put on some clothes, of course. Crima doesn't really have any strict laws against public nudity, but it isn't very common. Cold weather will do that. )

[SamBurke]

Well, the spice for crops is out, but the ship trade still has this round. I'll add it to the unconfirmed trades. Make sure when you list trades, that you list what you're giving and what you're getting. Details need to be set so I can update them, and so people know the details of the trade.

Edit: However, if you're voted into the Dawn League, you'll be able to merge trades with Qarimos and any of the other members, so there's that.

Ah! Great to know! I'll PM Avr.

[Silverbit]

It's surprising how peaceful the world is now, save maybe those untrustworthy Salterri. Almost too peaceful…

[Elemental]

The naval base was wanted mostly as a way to have a small piece of land under my nominal control. Our crews tend to be mostly naked former pirates, so it is for the benefit of the Cree that I can 'bar the gates' so to speak. Not to keep the Crima out, but to keep my folks in.

Ashenia is right on. The Jeweled Cities have been working on an academy for some time, but the Inner Sea Conference showed them how pathetic their buildings were compared to the continentals. Ashenia was gracious enough to spare some of their stonesmiths to create something beautiful.

I don't think it needs to be a Grand Project, but maybe 2 turns (since this turn and next turn I still have to complete the project?)

Makes sense I suppose. One wouldn't want to inflict rowdy pirates upon the kind and peaceful KhaterCree.

Personally I'd prefer a great project as it gives me more diplomacy actions which I've found are really hard to think of. In any case, I'm sure they can hold lessons in the finished portions. Plus, having an opening date of the Academy, and a finishing date for the construction means more reasons to party.

It's surprising how peaceful the world is now, save maybe those untrustworthy Salterri. Almost too peaceful…

The world is as peaceful as it always has been. Which is a lot less peaceful than the real world was at this historical level...

[Morph Bark]

Just one more question... Region twenty-eight produces salt, can said salt be provided for all regions that make up the Kingdom of Ashenia while still leaving three stacks for export? It is important to check this as I am unsure of how this part works.

Imports/exports are decided per region, but for use of making technologies, projects or training military units you only need it in one of your regions.

Since you scratched all this bit out does that mean we're still using the original system? (+1 for 4-7, +2 for 8+)

We're still using the original system, yes. The only change is that new players' rulers get two +1s instead of just one, and unrelated rulers of players who change rulers get to distribute attribute scores as they wish and also get that.

I haven't put that in the OP yet because my desktop did not have stable internet until now, which is only because I moved it down 20 feet.

If anyone is genuinely interested in my contribution to the Blazing Temple thread, the spirit quest is go. The Blazing Avatar ate the spice melange osuro, and we're off to find god.

Let's rock.

[SamBurke]

It's surprising how peaceful the world is now, save maybe those untrustworthy Salterri. Almost too peaceful…

Soon enough the Union of the North'll kill someone, I figure. Then all heck is gonna break loose.

[Elemental]

Imports/exports are decided per region, but for use of making technologies, projects or training military units you only need it in one of your regions.

So for the case of food resources and import necessities, I basically need to say which of my regions they're going to, and as such can't export them to other countries? Just asking all this to clarify so I don't make grievous errors later.

Soon enough the Union of the North'll kill someone, I figure. Then all heck is gonna break loose.

I'll have you know sir, that the breaking loose of all heck is disadvantageous to my plans and disruptive of the peaceful and prosperous lives of all Ashenites.

[THEChanger]

Members of the Dawn League, the Domhan Abhaile is currently trading with two of your number, and is in the neighborhood. I'd be interested in joining up this coming round, if there are no objections from current members/embarrassing induction rituals.

Hey Dawn Leaguers. Just making sure this didn't get missed previously.

[Rain Dragon]

「Like I said, hopefully I can write the fluff.」

Unexpectedly have a day off today if anyone's interested in my posts. It should be done today, hopefully.

That reminds me... The King of Ashenia is going to die this turn, beginning the reign of his eldest son, who unfortunately is missing, so it'll be a regency headed by his second child. Who may or may not just usurp the throne after securing her rule for a bit more.
She's technically under house arrest, but no one knows why except for the King, so she'll probably be released upon his death so she can take part in his funerary procession and the associated ritual mourning. A whole year of plain black clothing, and uncombed hair; no jewellery, no feasting, no dancing and no hunting.

Well if that isn't a bit of a situation I don't know what is.

As for region 28, it has 7000 inhabitants, plus any you send there. (I should probably require colonizers/conquesters to at least move 1000 of their people to new regions to claim them.)

Yes, the new rules apply this round. I havent managed to put them into the op yet, because editing posts on a tablet is a hassle (and if you stop for a while it deletes the changes it seems).

That makes sense.

I hate posting on a tablet for that reason, though mine doesn't do that. It would be just like a tiny PC if I had a keyboard for it I guess.

Soon enough the Union of the North'll kill someone, I figure. Then all heck is gonna break loose.

Sneaky.

Though I suppose your plans aren't looking very heck-break-loosey either.

[Arkhosia]

Someone should seriously be in charge of making a post summing up "what happened today" each day.
For example...
, "rules changed: Rulers get stat boosts for force feeding the enemy unpasteurized milk if enemy is lactose intolerant.
Other news: Woodwind exploded into Unitopia, ruled by QuintonBeck"

[Morph Bark]

Someone should seriously be in charge of making a post summing up "what happened today" each day.

If anyone offers themselves up for that, they can go right ahead. Might be handy for some.

[Rain Dragon]

Someone should seriously be in charge of making a post summing up "what happened today" each day.
For example...
, "rules changed: Rulers get stat boosts for force feeding the enemy unpasteurized milk if enemy is lactose intolerant.
Other news: Woodwind exploded into Unitopia, ruled by QuintonBeck"

Unfortunately, it's a fairly colossal undertaking.

Sanctuary has a historical summary if you need to look at that, but aside from that you'd probably have to scroll through the actions and Round Opening posts. Morph Bark was going to keep a History of Telluris, but there is a ton happening.

Do you feel behind on anything in particular? I'm sure someone can quickly grab what you need.

EDIT

If anyone offers themselves up for that, they can go right ahead. Might be handy for some.

For the rule changes, Mr Doom's got the FAQ table down. I'm sure I can put together the history thing each round because I have few hobbies.

Mr Doom has also been posting little bits of summaries in the thread for that as well.

Was this along the lines of what you were thinking? I'd format it like my history post but probably without spoilers and with nation or alliance tags. Just important things like 'whatshisface married whatsherface' or 'Sanctuary is trading with Salterri' or 'The Dawn League has formed' or 'The Grand Coalition welcomes a new member, Lyradis.' etc.

Do we have a list of official Alliance acronyms or abbreviations? We have the GC 「Grand Coalition」 and the UN 「Union of the Northwest」.

[Lord_Burch]

Do we have a list of official Alliance acronyms or abbreviations? We have the GC 「Grand Coalition」 and the UN 「Union of the Northwest」.

I have been consistently shortening any thing that lends itself to shortening. Noting official, but the Salterri are the SI, Dawn League DL, and Jewelled Cities JC (Penney).
(Blue is sarcasm round here right?)

[Rain Dragon]

I have been consistently shortening any thing that lends itself to shortening. Noting official, but the Salterri are the SI, Dawn League DL, and Jewelled Cities JC (Penney).
(Blue is sarcasm round here right?)

My personal list of the alliances are as follows. I'm just curious if there is anything official for any of these, aside from the UN and the GC.

The Silver Pact 「SP」
The Union of the Northwest 「UN」
The Grand Coalition 「GC」
The Dawn League 「DL」
The Triumvirate 「T」

「Yes it is. ;)」

[Arkhosia]

My personal list of the alliances are as follows. I'm just curious if there is anything official for any of these, aside from the UN and the GC.

The Silver Pact 「SP」
The Union of the Northwest 「UN」
The Grand Coalition 「GC」
The Dawn League 「DL」
The Southern Triumvirate 「ST」

「Yes it is. ;)」

GO TRIUMVIRATE! HOPEFULLY PHYRUS DIDN'T JOIN!
How do you do the half [ thingies?

[Rain Dragon]

GO TRIUMVIRATE! HOPEFULLY PHYRUS DIDN'T JOIN!
How do you do the half [ thingies?

My keyboard is Japanese so it defaults to those for some reason instead of the English brackets. I actually have to scroll through a list of brackets to get to the round ones and I'm a bit too lazy to. So that's why my brackets suddenly changed about... Halfway through last thread.

I'm fairly sure you can set your keyboard settings to Microsoft IME 「Japanese」 and type with them as well.

[QuintonBeck]

Morph, I sent you a PM but I imagine it got lost, in regards to my trade when I first made a deal with Eyrecradia it was for minerals but that seems to have morphed (no pun intended) into platinum for being too vague. If that's the case then I imagine my import also to be too vague so can I change it? I plan to just make it platinum since that's the whole reason behind it is a trade there but I wanted to make sure.

[zabbarot]

The Southern Triumvirate 「T」

Fixed that for you

Edit: or maybe the version we posted was older than the one we threw back and forth over PMs. We decided we weren't really south in the grand scheme of things. Mostly central. Maybe a bit north of central even.