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2011-11-06, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-06, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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I has done drawing!
Source image (from Sisterhooves Social, so if you're avoiding spoilers for it, just move along... nothing too plot-critical, though):
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Also, rotated it to help me with using it as a model. This made it blurry.
Now, my drawing:
SpoilerI was showing it to people on IRC as I worked, so I have a few different pictures of it this time, in varying stages of completion.
I'm not perfectly happy with it... didn't come out too terribly, though, and it was interesting to draw. She's more challenging than Apple Bloom.Last edited by Neoseanster; 2011-11-06 at 05:23 PM.
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2011-11-06, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hello,
I'm a long time lurker on these forums but never felt the need to post.
I must confess to watching MLP and enjoying it immensely so I decided to draw some, then I saw the thread and thought, why not post?
I was also hoping it would force me to draw more. I have been drawing a long time, but my art skills are lopsided. I rarely finish sketches with color or even basic shading. Actually, I rarely clean up sketches at all. I figured if I take part in a thread it get me working. If no one minds me cluttering up the thread and being here that is.
Besides ponies, I have been working on more realistic but still cartoony/abstract humans compared to my general way of drawing. So these two themes will probably be thrown together in horrible dissonance.
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These are some Rarity and Odysseus heads in various states of completion, I was drawing them to compare them with each other.
But this would be the most unlikely team up ever!
That is, if Rarity forgives him for his horrible hat and shaggy beard. And Odysseus doesn't take her to be some strange (but oddly fabulous) horse horror Poseidon decided to throw in his way.
Ok, so it wouldn't work out at all.
I should have shaded Rarity's hair in more. Also, Rarity's hair keeps changing shape into more and more bulbous forms. It's almost as if it has a mind of it's own.
Sorry for the light lines. I need to work on that. I'm addicted to grey lines.
I hope you don't mind me commenting. If you do then just skip my ramblings.
It is a nice picture! I really like how you shaded in the wet hair, I'm going to have to try that.
Take any and all of my words with a grain of salt. But the only thing that seems to be off with the picture is the position of the eye furthest from the viewer. The eye should be smaller or rather squashed a bit more due to foreshortening, if that makes sense.
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2011-11-06, 07:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-06, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's always nice to have new posters in the thread! Welcome!
Also, I commend you for tackling Rarity's mane; it's no easy feat to get the curls right!
EDIT: To avoid double posting!
So this is something different; a version of my avvie for a Sekerit Project. I inked this one, for a bit of a different effect; I also owe The Great and Powerful Inkwell for helping clean up the original graphic.
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Thoughts: I like how most of it turned out, except the hood. The hood isn't really poofy enough, or is improperly poofy, and it kind of ruins the effect for me. There are also a couple of proportion/fidelity issues, but nothing hideously off.Last edited by the_druid_droid; 2011-11-07 at 01:21 AM.
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2011-11-07, 03:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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I fail!
I can't draw dragon wings. ;_;
We all got turned into dragons in the IRC so I decided to make that my air born Xenomorph, but I suck at drawing wings.
Here's what I got, but I know it sucks, I just don't know how to fix it.
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Help me please! :(
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2011-11-07, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm, the problem with the wings is that you've basically drawn them as large rectangles. What you need to do is locate a reference picture for a set of wings, either a photo of real birds you're shooting for, someone else's dragon drawings, or even pegasi wings from the show.
Look at them closely, and what you'll see is that although there are differences, most likely all of them have a sort of curving shape in common to the underside of the wing, tapering down from the wingtip to join into the chest. From there compare and contrast a couple styles to figure out what details you want and see if you can work up something you're happier with. The taper should fix 75% of the issue, with dragon-specific details rounding out the rest, I think.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
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2011-11-07, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, I completely forgot I am allowed to use reference.
I don't usually use reference cause it feels like I'm stealing other ponies work.
So it kind of flew over my head.
Just looking at Dragon wings shows me obvious mistakes.
On another note, somepony wanted a flag of some sorts? I don't remember.
Here it is:
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Cheesy yes, but you said a quick job will do. :PLast edited by Dirtbag; 2011-11-07 at 06:52 PM.
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2011-11-07, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thank you for the welcome, I don't tend to post on internet forums very often, so I was pretty nervous.
And of course I had to try Rarity's mane. Rarity is the best pony in my book.
At least when Applejack isn't.
Hoods are very annoying to get right. Especially if your going for an abstract style and only have a few lines to work with to provide the illusion of poofyness and depth. I admire anyone who attempts something like this in the OOTS style, for a front view no less.
It looks good, are you planning on coloring or are you leaving it as is?
This is just a side comment, but I don't think you should feel bad about using references. Plenty of people use references, including myself if it matters. And everyone's work is based off of something, either something someone else made or from the natural world.
As long as your not literally copying them and wandering around passing it off as your work, I don't think it counts as stealing.
By the way, nice flag! Even if you think it's cheezy. The only thing that seemed somewhat odd was the black line borders on the clouds since the sun, moon and stars don't have borders. But if you remove them the clouds might not look right, so you may not want that.
Here is another drawing, this one of Applejack and Apple Bloom,
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2011-11-07, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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No worries, the forums as a whole are pretty friendly, and we're certainly happy to see new faces!
Hoods are very annoying to get right. Especially if your going for an abstract style and only have a few lines to work with to provide the illusion of poofyness and depth. I admire anyone who attempts something like this in the OOTS style, for a front view no less.
It looks good, are you planning on coloring or are you leaving it as is?
Also, after coming back and looking at it, I think the hood might actually be less of a problem than the fact that I set the eyes too far above the mouth and put the pose together a bit sloppily. It makes my drawing look less stylized than my avatar, although the hood could admittedly use a tweak as well...
I really like this! My only nit-pick is that the head on Applejack seems a little too large. As SiuiS pointed out to me and I've measured now for myself, it seems that the body should be about a head-height off the ground, and the belly is typically located about 3/4 or so of a head down from, well, the head itself.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
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2011-11-07, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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My first custom pony, without reference!
I did a quick sketch of one of my classmates in Drama last week, finishing it up today with the necklace and cutie mark. She initially asked for a weed leaf as her cutie mark, but decided instead on ice cream. I added the joint for fun.
SpoilerThe nose strikes me as too long, and the torso as well. I needed to start the legs sooner. Ah, well.
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2011-11-08, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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On the contrary, I think Applebloom looks very well proportioned here. The lineart to this picture is solid, only tweak I have is Applejack's nose, which doesn't look quite right
Pony heads are round! The gap between the tip of the nose and the start of the far eye is very, very short. Draw a circle for the head and add features to that.
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2011-11-08, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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To be fair, Fluttershy's eyes are deceptive. They are unique, almost, and very, very different from all other pony eyes in behaviour. My very third pony picture had Fluttershy eyes, and as a result I have never shown it in public. It hurts too much.
Hm. For scaling reference, pick a part of the pony. Remember, internal consistency is what you're going for; the pony should be scaled correctly relevant to the pony. To the moon with anything else.
Good job though. That's a hay of a Pinkie Pie.
My comisserations. My only good Fluttershy works because it's just far enough away from the show's style that you'd think the differences were intentional...
Look at the emotes Gadora posted. There is one, where she is facing the camera but her eyes are downcast to the side, while still wide open. Her eyes are HUGE.
I feel proud for inspirin someone by saying that the tools don't need to be fancy ^w^
Nice applebloom!
I have to ask, dis you draw that from reference alone or did you make a skeleton first?
Neat. I never noticed how, well, manly RD's posture was in that shot. The mullet really works there.
Good gravy! Look at the difference betweenthose last two pictures! You make me feel better about my own differences...
If it makes you feel better, so far only Thanqol is the only bloke who takes his sketches all the way through post production. I've resigned myself to being a doodler rather than an 'artist' because really neat but still dirty sketch is as far as I can take a piece of work.
Besides ponies, I have been working on more realistic but still cartoony/abstract humans compared to my general way of drawing. So these two themes will probably be thrown together in horrible dissonance.
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These are some Rarity and Odysseus heads in various states of completion, I was drawing them to compare them with each other.
But this would be the most unlikely team up ever!
That is, if Rarity forgives him for his horrible hat and shaggy beard. And Odysseus doesn't take her to be some strange (but oddly fabulous) horse horror Poseidon decided to throw in his way.
Ok, so it wouldn't work out at all.
I should have shaded Rarity's hair in more. Also, Rarity's hair keeps changing shape into more and more bulbous forms. It's almost as if it has a mind of it's own.
Sorry for the light lines. I need to work on that. I'm addicted to grey lines.
Still... Really cool.
Look at bat wings. The wing works like a hand even in birds.
And don't sweat the references. "drawing from memory" usually just means you've memorized the references, but they're still there.Last edited by SiuiS; 2011-11-08 at 12:50 AM.
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2011-11-08, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-08, 02:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-08, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly, SiuiS, I've said this before but colouring and editing your pieces is a joy. You've got crazy good composition and structure, and you put together pieces that just work. And I think the only thing stopping you from being an 'artist' is possession of a drawing tablet and willingness to spend time learning how to colour.
I'll understand if learning to colour is daunting, though, because I'm 174 days in and still have no bloody idea how to do it effectively. I'm still experimenting, all the time, and I still haven't tried all the tools these programs have. But it's the fun kind of not knowing, where I can try new combinations of stuff every day and see how it turns out.
If there's any sketches you want coloured at any time, just ask. I stand a fairly decent chance of colouring anything you throw up anyway.
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2011-11-08, 07:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've also got a problem with coloring. Most of the time, I prefer to leave sketches as sketches, because more often than not my coloring will break something in the design.
But, a well-drawn colored piece will always look better than a sketch, so that's incentive to improve. :)Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2011-11-08, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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I wonder, would someone with a pretty big amount of experience with digital image editing (including colouring) but relatively few with any free-hand drawing be okay in this thread?
I just don't want to be laughed off with claims 'what you need to learn, anyway?' if I post something...
<sigh> Maybe I can borrow someone's sketch to practice digital manipulation on, but I'd need to ask permission first, I guess...Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2011-11-08, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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No offense, but... really, what do you need to learn? What I've seen of your art is plenty awesome as it is. If you need to fiddle with something though, feel free to take any of my designs.
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2011-11-08, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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<sigh> Exactly as I said, I suck on anything other than using mouse, be it free-hand tablet or pencil. That's why I'd like to get some criticism here.
But okay, I get the hint :PCome one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2011-11-08, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Absolutely feel free to join in with the thread!
I never meant for things to be restricted to any level of talent or any medium, I just sort of marketed this toward new pony drawing people because I knew there would be some interest. By all means, post anything you like, and we'll give you any sort of help we know how to!
EDIT: Not to mention it would be nice to have several folks around with some coloring experience once I start dabbling with the process; I'm pretty much going to be starting at ground zero...Last edited by the_druid_droid; 2011-11-08 at 12:01 PM.
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2011-11-08, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, some experts on coloring here would be nice. And, for the record, being able to draw well with a mouse is an awesome skill all by itself.
As for me, I'm now trying to do illustrations to that ill-fated fanfic project I mentioned. I'm no longer sure it'll get off the ground at all, but as long as it keeps giving me something unusual to draw, all is fine.
RD and one of the OC dwarves in flight:
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I find the concept of pegasi "running" while flying a little outlandish, so in this case I've tried to justify the OC's action-y pose with some cloudskipping.
AJ learning of the profession of another OC dwarf, and the definition of "antipersonnel weapon":
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Could've gone for a more neutral scene, but wanted to experiment with expressions. AJ seems to convey shock pretty well here, to me at least.
These are both sketches-in-progress, so if you have any advice to give, I'll gladly hear it.Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2011-11-08, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hi guys! I hope to be as active on this thread as I can be. I have plenty of pony sketches but little time to actually get online. With the few minutes I have today, I thought I'd just take the last picture posted and make some comments! Sooo...
Wow! These were both so good. I love your style, it looks like you've been doing this for quite some time. It's all so clean looking, and your attention to detail really shines. I'm very envious of anyone who can draw feathered wings well, and you did a great job. I think a next step to take this further would be color, or even more simple, some shading. Have you tried that on your drawings yet? I bet it would look great!
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2011-11-08, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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My only suggestions are that in the first picture, the dwarf pony's rear leg looks a bit odd; it may just be the pose but the joint seems to bend strangely, even for a pony. Also, in the second, the crossbow seems relatively heavily detailed in comparison to most of the rest of the picture; you might consider scaling it back a bit to keep the simpler, elegant feel of the body styles.
Good to have you with us! Don't feel too pressured to post, but whenever you've got time, we'll be around to see if we can help.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
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2011-11-08, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Umm..here's my first sketch. I had to use a reference picture and trace a bit. I've never drawn body proportions like these, and I'm not a great artist. All comments welcomed and encouraged!
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2011-11-08, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks for the compliment!
I'll keep those proportions in mind for next time, the picture I did today I fear some of their legs may be a bit too long.
Thanks! I tried to pay more attention to the profile noses today. Don't know if it made a difference or not.
The sad part is, I really want to create colored pictures. I often look at art of other artists and old master painters and think, "Wow, I wish I could use color like that!". But whenever I get ready to color one of my own it always turns out worse and I end up preferring the monotone doodle.
Thank you for the kind words! I'm still playing with how much or how less abstraction to go with. On the portrait view I begin to fall back on old habits.
Looking back at Applejack's legs, I think your right. Today I think I made them too long though.
I can relate with that, my bad coloring ruins a otherwise fine drawing. But I guess I'll have to put up with it too improve.
These are beautiful! The backgrounds are wonderful, especially in the first picture. How long does it take you to draw each picture?
It looks pretty good!
You shouldn't feel bad for using a reference picture, and tracing is fine for practice. The two major things that I see are the edge of the wings (but wings are hard), and Fluttershy's hair on the top of her head seems a bit flat when it should curve and be abit more poofy if that makes since.
Here is another picture today,
SpoilerHere is Apple Bloom, Big Macintosh and Applejack. Working on the proportions of different body sizes.
For Applejack I imagined that Big Macintosh was reminding her of the time she tried to finish harvest alone. I wanted to give her expression between a sheepish apologetic smile and a grimace, like she was remembering a horrible memory. I don't know if I succeeded or not, but there it is.
The sketch is a bit more dirty then usual as I was pressed for time.
I can't help but think Big Mac should be bigger. And Applebloom's head seems a bit too big. And the less said about her bow the better.
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2011-11-08, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks for the feedback! I agree with Fluttershy's hair needing a bit of extra "poof." As for the wings, that's the best of my ability at the moment. That's going to be the major thing I work on. =)
I can't help but think Big Mac should be bigger. And Applebloom's head seems a bit too big. And the less said about her bow the better.[/SPOILER]
I also second the call for improvement to color. If I even so much as ink in one of my sketches, it turns very flat and loses so much depth. The search for a color expert begins!
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2011-11-09, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think AJ is looking pretty damn good in this. Legs are just about right. Maybe just compare it to a few show screenshots to see how you did.
I think Big Mac could do to be taller, again with the legs :P
And I think Applebloom is...Hmm..I think her body is too long? I can't quite place it. I'd say compare it to a few screenshots again. But you're right in thinking something is off.
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2011-11-09, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks, and yes, I do do shading, even in pencil. I even do coloring and lighting, but I'm not very good at it.
Yeah, those rear legs I've been reworking more than the rest of the picture. Still couldn't get them right, evidently.
It's detailed largely because I kept adding details to it. :) So it's a little overdone. It'll look cleaner in the final version. Other than that, it's still a crossbow. It's supposed to look a little out-of-place in the Ponyverse.
Well, these two were done over the course of the work day, roughly midday to eight PM, so - eight hours, on and off, for both of these, including largely redoing the first one at least once. I'm in no rush. :)Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2011-11-09, 01:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, finally finished my collection of the mane 6. This time up, it's Fluttershy!
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Based on:
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Thoughts: I think there are some successes and failures here. On the one hand, I think I finally did better about drawing the hooves curvy enough and they're starting to get large enough to balance with the size of the rest of the composition. On the downside, I think I drew her a little too long, which threw off some other proportions, and there are spots in her mane I really don't like. Also, the eyebrows need to arch more.
Fluttershy's mane is surprisingly hard; it's just a bunch of smooth lines and curves and it's hard to find reference points to tie them all together. I honestly found it harder to manage than Rarity's...Last edited by the_druid_droid; 2011-11-09 at 01:55 AM.
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