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Thread: Will Save World for Gold
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2016-08-17, 03:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-17, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Will Save World for Gold
It is worth nothing for those that want moral growth from him that he is soulless (to memory) for some reason, and that the Nightmare Spirit may be able to subtly influence his actions (now that he has started listening to it).
Will have to see how this plays out.
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2016-08-17, 10:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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My favourite part is Ardon’s confusion that someone might blame himself for something instead of everyone else.
The reaction... unfortunately fits his established behaviour very well. Still incredible evil that whole stunt.
Ardon wanted a slaughter so he makes sure he gets one."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2016-08-17, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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There isn't really any reason for his party to not be there and watching, so I assume they just saw and heard this. Morality aside it should be pretty clear he used a power on the guy.
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2016-08-17, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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H'uh, this IS weird. Doesn't quite seem like Ardon to actively go out of his way just to kill something that doesn't need to be killed...
Or maybe that's exactly what he'd do... i am kind of tired RN so idkAvy by Thormag
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2016-08-17, 04:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think the contract specified that their job was to kill Hragnash, so part of Ardon's motivation is to remove any room for the dwarves to refuse payment on the grounds that he didn't actually do the contracted job. Considering their reaction to him sneaking in an "I get Odie's share" clause, I think this is a very valid concern.
A Good character would argue that the spirit of the contract - helping eliminate the orc threat - has been fulfilled and, whether that argument worked or not, let Hragnash go. Ardon is an evil bastard and just doesn't care, so he's going the sure route of fulfilling the letter of the contract too.Like 4X (aka Civilization-like) gaming? Know programming? Interested in game development? Take a look.
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2016-08-17, 10:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-17, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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That true but Ardon still mess up in killing the regular orc tribe members in even his own way of thinking. Since I don't know if he even get xp for poising their alcohol and if he doesn't then it surprising since that was a lot of xp to lose. Since a little from each one adds up when there that many of them and might have even cost him a level in fact and pretty sure he loves xp as much as he loves gold which is unlike him.
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2016-08-17, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-17, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not sure because I mostly learn the rules for D&D from several webcomics.
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2016-08-18, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-18, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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If poisoning them doesn't count for xp, then any other way likely to actually work against that many probably wouldn't count either. The only way that absolutely definitely would get Ardon xp would be killing them all in combat, and Ardon's not so powerful he can fight an army and win. XP you can't succeed in claiming isn't xp at all, so going the poison route isn't losing him anything. He might even get plot/story xp from it, which while still less than the xp value of combat killing an entire tribe of orcs is a lot better than dying from picking a fight where you're ridiculously overmatched.
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2016-08-18, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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That is what I am reading. It seems tough on assassins, although there are some games that vary from it, and with a proximity/immediacy requirement. I expect that Ardon will say he multi-classed as an Assassin and that Bobo's presence will qualify him for xp.
If it works, it will infuriate his party.
If it doesn't work, it will infuriate him.
Either way, we will be entertained.Last edited by stsasser; 2016-08-18 at 01:54 PM.
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2016-08-18, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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That true that no matter what, I am still very entertained by this webcomic.
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2016-08-19, 12:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh immensely. It's to the Author's credit that we've seen thousands of comics in this world and have no idea what the long-term effects of this action will be. So rare to find something this unpredictable.
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2016-08-23, 04:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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So if Ardon really did poison the booze before meeting Hragnash, that means he wiped them out just to spite Groffnar.
Anyways I thought Ardon was actually going to mention how Odie doesn't get paid since he signed over his payment to Ardon.
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2016-08-24, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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...Either Ardon is never going to one-up Groffnar, or when he does his vengeance will be horrific.
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2016-08-24, 12:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I hope Ardon never one ups Groffnar. Ardon needs to get pie on his face sometimes.
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2016-08-24, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-24, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2016-08-25, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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This isn't real comeuppance for what Ardon did though. All that happened is that he gets disappointed that this particular part of his plan didn't work. So what?
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2016-08-25, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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I looked it up, unless the dwarves were lying and they did try to put a trick in the contract, it was for death or capture. Here is the link.
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2016-08-25, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Justice? No.
Comeuppance? Yes.I'm a Prestige Class! Thanks Zaydos!
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2016-08-26, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-26, 01:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-28, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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First Barry and now this?!?
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2016-08-29, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Lizard Lord; 2016-08-29 at 12:49 AM.
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2016-08-29, 05:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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The Giant
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2016-08-29, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ardon wouldn't abandoned Bobo for good since he is pretty much his only friend that would never disobey or betray him.
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2016-08-29, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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