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2012-01-07, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Multiclass Archetypes
So, theres two things i love in this world: AD&D, and the flavor of high fantasy. Here's where the two clash. In AD&D, as many of you probably know, demihumans can take two classes at the same time and multiclass, etc etc. A lot of these fit more or less into a well existing archetype, ie Fighter/M.U. can be paralleled to a sword-mage, Fighter/Cleric To a paladin (even though paladin is its own class, bear with me here), a thief/M.U can be seen as a trickster... but what about cleric/thief? I honestly cannot think of any fantasy trope that it fits into, not even one as much of a stretch as trickster. What role exactly does a cleric/thief play? Let it be noted that i dont mean so much mechanically in the confines of the AD&D system, but more so in general. What roles does the concept of a cleric/thief have? Who is the cleric/thief? What is its motivation, its archetype, its flavor? Keep once more in mind that i extend this far beyond advanced dungeons and dragons and into fantasy roleplaying flavor in general, do not feel the need to limit yourself to such.
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2012-01-07, 11:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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1. A cleric of a thief god.
2. An ex-thief who saw the error of his ways and became a priest, but still knows the tricks of his old trade and is not afraid to use them when needed.
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2012-01-07, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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What Tengu said, plus a cleric trained to infiltrate the ranks of the order's enemies.
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2012-01-07, 11:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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I pretty much have to agree with both Tengu and Jade Dragon here. If the cleric is a combination of warrior monk/priest and living saint then a cleric/thief, rogue or whatever you call it is a a warrior monk/living saint/spy. Think of a combination of Alexander Anderson and James Bond or Michael Westen.
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2012-01-08, 12:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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How about templar agent or deacon inspector?
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2012-01-08, 01:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's a reason that rogues don't have alignment restrictions. A good fantasy cop is just a rogue with a badge and good intentions. Enter the Rogue/Cleric. Paladins might be the strong enforcing arm of a church, but they don't have enough skillpoints to conduct an investigation that any God of Justice worth his salt would accept.
Also, there's always non-Good clerics. Have you noticed how fond Evil gods are of tightly secured McGuffins? There's got to be at least a few that are too proactive to sit around and pull a Tarquin on the protagonists.Last edited by Connington; 2012-01-08 at 01:45 AM.
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2012-01-08, 01:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nakor, from Raymond Feist's novels, really does the C/T well.
He is, arguably, a wizard/thief, but consider that he may be an avatar of a deity driven slightly mad by another deity's artifact, while being a wily little con artist. Instead of coming off as a wizardly type, he "masquerades" as a monk of Dala (a third deity in the mix), and was responsible for restarting the temple of Arch-Indar and locating HER prophet.
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2012-01-08, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Also an agile fighting-priest. Like Pathfinder's artwork of Desna's priest. (Desna is the goddess of travel and luck)
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Some kind of Holy Assassin, maybe?
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2012-01-08, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmm....
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2012-01-08, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is pretty much the exact role that the Shadowbane Stalker and Shadowbane Inquisitor 3.5 PrCs were designed to fill. The flavor of them is something I always liked and could fit well in what you want. (Mind you, I've never actually played ADND, only 3 and later.)
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2012-01-08, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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A Surgeon.
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Why is he able to heal people? Because he's a surgeon.
Why is he good with poisons and medicines alike? Because he's a ****ing surgeon.Wolfen Houndog - The World in Revolt (4e)
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2012-01-15, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Low level Elminster.
What?
If I remember right (at work, can't check books), Elminster's first six levels for 3e were statted as Fighter1/Rogue2/Cleric of Mystra 3. He started as a thug, refined his skills as a thief to survive and then joined the ranks of the clergy.
After that he started learning actual Arcane magic and became the Uber-mage he would end up as. Starting out though, Elminster was a ridiculous and unoptimized combo of classes.
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