Fairy Tail II: Second Generation Thread Slayers

[Olinser]

My reaction to this week's chapter can be summed up by a trope:

Like You Would Really Do It

[Kato]

New chapter.

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Rocks fall, everybody dies.
Well, kind of...

Because demon chick got impatient they can't remote control Face. But that's only a minor setback. New demons, kind of. Jackal is just revived but Tempest apparently gets a new body and loses his memory upon every death... seems somewhat inconvenient. But assuming that's true for all demons... WHO THE EFF IS ZERO?! Genderswap Ultear reborn?! Also, Minerva is back and I would say something about her outrageous outfit but I guess it's pretty subtle compared to recent events... Also: naked Mira. Will get an ugly face. Because crazy scientist chick doesn't like pretty girls.

And the demons are right above the guild when Elfman tries to blow it up... and apparently Cana can't stop him and there is a huge explosion. I'm at least curious how they will survive, because obviously they do. (Also, Elfman somehow reminded me of Hofmann's Hook from the movie of the same name... "Don't try to stop me, don't you DARE try to stop me, (try to stop me)."

[LaZodiac]

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Hiro. HIRO.

Can we not go one ****ing week. ONE ****ING WEEK. Without something UNBELIEVABLY creepy.

I don't care if she's a demon, Lemy looks like a young child and she just said "OH YOUR GLARE IS SO CUTE I THINK I MIGHT GET PREGNANT"

What the hell is wrong with you.

[Fiery Diamond]

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Hiro. HIRO.

Can we not go one ****ing week. ONE ****ING WEEK. Without something UNBELIEVABLY creepy.

I don't care if she's a demon, Lemy looks like a young child and she just said "OH YOUR GLARE IS SO CUTE I THINK I MIGHT GET PREGNANT"

What the hell is wrong with you.

I'm with you on that. At this point, the main reason I'm still reading is because I keep hoping that maybe this beloved series that I've sunk so much time into will quit with the creepy and inappropriate and go back to being good. If this were a new series I was trying out that was like it has been the last few months? I'd drop it.

[Spacewolf]

You're surprised a team of literal demons are being made out to be creepy?

Surely that's to be expected.

[LaZodiac]

You're surprised a team of literal demons are being made out to be creepy?

Surely that's to be expected.

You can be creepy without implying the loli character wants to get pregnant.

[Spacewolf]

Sure that's not just a saying in Japan? I seem to remember something of the sort showing up elsewhere.

Either way it seemed to be more of a "I want to marry my father" or whatever Tvtropes wants to call it situation meant to show that she's the stupid kiddy one.

[LaZodiac]

Sure that's not just a saying in Japan? I seem to remember something of the sort showing up elsewhere.

Either way it seemed to be more of a "I want to marry my father" or whatever Tvtropes wants to call it situation meant to show that she's the stupid kiddy one.

...it is decidedly not a phrase in Japan, and I HIGHLY doubt she's just joking around, since she specifically made Tempest "super hot".

[Soras Teva Gee]

Little demon lady needs to take something for those raging hormones.

Though what is it Hiro every other chapter we get a cliffhanger? Your boring me now.

[Tebryn]

Little demon lady needs to take something for those raging hormones.

Though what is it Hiro every other chapter we get a cliffhanger? Your boring me now.

They're not even cliffhangers. We know the outcome, everything is going to be fine. I'd like to say I'm surprised but this is following Rave Master's descent into total misery pretty much to a T. A somewhat interesting concept drug out well past it's prime (with reused character designs from Rave Master at that) and new EEEVVIIILLL enemies to up the anty. When they hit the Oracian Sies I was pretty much done with the series. Now it's in the same bin as Naruto and Bleach, reading it to see it end.

[Kato]

Though what is it Hiro every other chapter we get a cliffhanger? Your boring me now.

Well, as much as I like(d) FT, ending of cliffhangers is the sign of a bad show that can't keep viewers interested in other ways...
That said, I am at least curious HOW they will survive. (While last time I actually was curious if Jellal would make it)

In regards to the other discussion... I have to say I don't quite agree with Zodiac's problem on the new character. Don't get me wrong, there clearly is something wrong with Hiro's sex life according to the last month of updates or so but without having any interest in lolis... I don't see the problem. For me she's not a child but a short, flat demon who has every right to be horny. Or as much as anyone else.

[lord_khaine]

Yeah, her behavior were quite clearly adult, so i really dont see any issue with the short demon besides finding her really annoying as a character.

And despite being slightly amused by the low quality chain used by Tartaros (a sword will apperently cut though them), then i am actually continuing to find my interest in the new chapter rising.

I cant find the inapropriate things other people are complaining about, but are for that matter also more interested in how it is they survive this, my personal entry on the betting pool is on that 3rd great fairy spell.

[LaZodiac]

My problem with Lemy is comparable to when they sexualize Wendy. Yeah, she's pretty wise for her age and stuff, and thus fairly adult. But she still LOOKS like a child.

Hell, I wouldn't really mind, if not for the fact that she said that one line about getting pregnant that just skeeved me right the hell out.

[Cen]

I bet they survive by super-stretching Horologium. If I'm right, I'm gonna quit this manga.

Random question - was it ever explained what was behind these super secret doors under FT mansion, that Makarove has shown to Laxus?

[Soras Teva Gee]

My problem with Lemy is comparable to when they sexualize Wendy. Yeah, she's pretty wise for her age and stuff, and thus fairly adult. But she still LOOKS like a child.

Hell, I wouldn't really mind, if not for the fact that she said that one line about getting pregnant that just skeeved me right the hell out.

While short and *ahem* not terribly developed the design is terribly loli-esque to me. While I'd bet large money in either case this seems more just really really short to me.

The pregnant line is would be creepy coming from a woman of Mirajane's build.

[LaZodiac]

While short and *ahem* not terribly developed the design is terribly loli-esque to me. While I'd bet large money in either case this seems more just really really short to me.

The pregnant line is would be creepy coming from a woman of Mirajane's build.

Well yes it's gonna turn out she's like the oldest of them or something, but still.

Yes, yes it would.

[Kato]

Random question - was it ever explained what was behind these super secret doors under FT mansion, that Makarove has shown to Laxus?

Kind of, I think. It's the third Great FT Spell, Luminaire or something like that.

The pregnant line is would be creepy coming from a woman of Mirajane's build.

Sorry, I still don't get it. Yeah, its stupid but... so terribly disturbing? I'll assume the idea of a woman wanting to get pregnant is not yucky, the idea of a child wanting to get pregnant... more so. But she's pretty clearly not a child just uncommonly build. If they did the same thing with Wendy, yeah, I'd agree, but she's not Wendy.

[Socratov]

*gasp* We have reached page 49 already! Maybe we should suggest page titles for the next thread...

mine goes to:

Fairy Tail III: Demon-ex Machina

[LaZodiac]

*gasp* We have reached page 49 already! Maybe we should suggest page titles for the next thread...

mine goes to:

Fairy Tail III: Demon-ex Machina

I like that one.

[lord_khaine]

My problem with Lemy is comparable to when they sexualize Wendy. Yeah, she's pretty wise for her age and stuff, and thus fairly adult. But she still LOOKS like a child.

While Lemy is an adult demon and can act as stupidly as she wants, then i do agree about the treatment of Wendy.

Besides her being a child and imo really not belonging anywhere near the FT fights, then the way she has been dressed and and so on is despicable.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Kind of, I think. It's the third Great FT Spell, Luminaire or something like that.

The spells are Fairy Law, Glitter, and Sphere.

The "Lumen Histoire" we don't know about yet.

Sorry, I still don't get it. Yeah, its stupid but... so terribly disturbing? I'll assume the idea of a woman wanting to get pregnant is not yucky, the idea of a child wanting to get pregnant... more so. But she's pretty clearly not a child just uncommonly build. If they did the same thing with Wendy, yeah, I'd agree, but she's not Wendy.

If I were to rationalize it I would say some combination of being waaay to forward and way irresponsible. I'm personally rather conditioned to treat pregnancy way more importantly then say romance and sex alone. Reducing having a kid to a raunchy sex gag exceeds my ability to not find "creepy" and disturbing.

Fairy Tail III: Demon-ex Machina

Done.

While Lemy is an adult demon and can act as stupidly as she wants, then i do agree about the treatment of Wendy.

Besides her being a child and imo really not belonging anywhere near the FT fights, then the way she has been dressed and and so on is despicable.

Japan evidently disagrees... because Wendy is far from alone yes? And looking beyond the loli, well how many teen girls are there. 16 will get you 20...

[lord_khaine]

Japan evidently disagrees... because Wendy is far from alone yes? And looking beyond the loli, well how many teen girls are there. 16 will get you 20...

Japans obsession with extremely young girls is also imo one of the most distrubing things about that culture.
And as for the teen girls then i really dont care about them, since they are all above the legal age.

[Soras Teva Gee]

And from and outside perspective one could argue the inflation of "child" status into the late teens (and pressing ever forward) now is not only ludicrous but rather stifling. All in where you sit.

But putting that aside... ehh nothing to do about it. Trot out the standard defense that in the end, this isn't real. Agree or disagree. Watch or don't watch. Nothing more to be said.

[Kato]

Fairy Tail III: Demon-ex Machina

Ah, forgot that in my last few posts... Agreed.

The spells are Fairy Law, Glitter, and Sphere.

The "Lumen Histoire" we don't know about yet.

Ah, sorry. But that was what's in the basement, right?

Reducing having a kid to a raunchy sex gag exceeds my ability to not find "creepy" and disturbing.

But the point still stands, our loli demon is not a child. Well, very likely not, anyway.
But I don't think that's a place to discuss legal ages... Even though I do in general agree Japan has a disturbing trend to sexualize little girls.

[LaZodiac]

You know, a thought occurs to me.

Tempesta doesn't even look like he's drawn by Hiro anymore, his design is so different. It's an interesting touch, to say the least.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Ah, sorry. But that was what's in the basement, right?

Yes, the glowy thing in the basement.

But the point still stands, our loli demon is not a child. Well, very likely not, anyway.
But I don't think that's a place to discuss legal ages... Even though I do in general agree Japan has a disturbing trend to sexualize little girls.

Well yeah and there's a lot to be said for this not being reality too. That's more a legalistic sort of thing with overriding concerns.

Its simply reached the limits of what my own personal programming even as desensitized as it is can let me get away with.

[Socratov]

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So, finally we can see Cana's magic. Quite potent I'd say. And it seems Hiro is getting this hentaifever out of his system (some gratuitous nakedness, but it's turning around at the least, besides, Mira is back to business. So, all of FT vs. the demons. time for some whoopass. I'm excited for what comes next...

[Kato]

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Yeah, less hentai-ish this week.

I guess it's not the worst cop-out for the rescue but.. If Cana can just turn anybody into cards, how is she not the most powerful FT wizard? And if you can fight against being turned into a card, why does it still work on Elfman? And why does it cure Elfman of his mind control? And... and... ah, whatever.

Lisanna and Natsu rescue Erza (well, I guess Lisanna did the larger part because otherwise Natsu would have to face naked Erza to do so). btw, where did Lisanna get the bikini from?
Apparently the sword is somewhat special, we'll see how much so and if he keeps it.

And... how crappy is the demons intel if they don't know Mira uses demon magic and don't consider the possibility it might be a stupid idea to pump her with more demon power? I guess it's not something you can easily research but it seems a bit unsensible from their side.

But yeah, time for the fairies' counterattack!

[Hopeless]

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Yeah, less hentai-ish this week.

I guess it's not the worst cop-out for the rescue but.. If Cana can just turn anybody into cards, how is she not the most powerful FT wizard? And if you can fight against being turned into a card, why does it still work on Elfman? And why does it cure Elfman of his mind control? And... and... ah, whatever.

Lisanna and Natsu rescue Erza (well, I guess Lisanna did the larger part because otherwise Natsu would have to face naked Erza to do so). btw, where did Lisanna get the bikini from?
Apparently the sword is somewhat special, we'll see how much so and if he keeps it.

And... how crappy is the demons intel if they don't know Mira uses demon magic and don't consider the possibility it might be a stupid idea to pump her with more demon power? I guess it's not something you can easily research but it seems a bit unsensible from their side.

But yeah, time for the fairies' counterattack!

Hmm

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Wasn't Mira on the island with everybody else when they time skipped 7 years?

It could be that her hiatus from active work as a Fairy Tail Guild Mage since Lisanna "died" may have played a part in why they didn't know what she could do.

After all when this first started she was pretty much a favourite pin up in a wizard weekly, whose to say whoever checked up on Fairy Tail actually bothered to confirm what every mage could do after all the first group they wiped the floor with barring Mr Lightning (yes I forgot his name!) was probably top of their list of most dangerous foes!

I would have been more worried about where Gildartz was after all how does an army of demons fight something that survived Acnologia technically at least twice?!

[Soras Teva Gee]

Alright Hiro now its time to stop screwing around.

Not gonna lie go Cana.