Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
We all know that his strength is probably 50, because 30 strength isn't enough to hit Miko and his horse through the stone wall. 30 is the minimum strength that we set as a lower limit for the FBS section so that it doesn't seem so empty an unwelcoming. Of course if you find a monster who has some oddly specific ability that helps him hit creatures through walls then the strength can be lower, but such candidates seem to be rare.
Also note that STR 30 is the minimum value rewuired to punch through 1 inch of masonry, which is certainly less than the thickness of a defensive structure's wall should be.

Quote Originally Posted by 3Power View Post
Actually that made me realize something. Every creature has access to unarmed strike, so if the protean really wanted to hit as lightly as possible, he would do an off hand unarmed strike which would be 1d4 +10. Combine that with at-will shrinking, and the protean is now doing 1+6 damage.
Huh. Yes, that really is a fairly good argument against a shapechanger capable of altering its size and developing attack forms other than its standard fare at a moment's notice.