Quote Originally Posted by Palanan View Post
I've always wondered about the Level 0 aspect of this PrC. Is gaining the Deathless type really enough to justify an entire level?

And if not, would it be reasonable to skip Level 0, and jump directly into Level 1 of the Risen Martyr?
No, absolutely not.

Yes, it would. Just roll "spiritual body" into level 1 and start from there.

Quote Originally Posted by Talanic View Post
Uh. The level 0 aspect means your character just gained a huge power boost, because level 0 of Risen Martyr just raised them from the dead. Deathless is a big step up from dead, so being level 0 is kind of just reserving your future advancement without piling on rewards for having died.

Granted, if the events that martyred your character were epic enough, perhaps you got enough exp to get to level one anyway.
lol no. it's just like being undead. it makes you immune to certain things, but it makes you a lot glassier. plus you're stuck with 11 levels of risen martyrs, plus having to qualify for risen martyr.