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Thread: The fall of King Saline IV
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2009-05-19, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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The fall of King Saline IV
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2009-05-19, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
And your point is?
It looks like that guy is going to get killed next. Not surprising to find him there, Saline had human soldiers, also not surprising for the rebelling gobwins to kill them all.Avatar: ruthless Parson (Erfworld).
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2009-05-19, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
My point is that while it's obviously a silhouette and not very conclusive, it looks a bit like Wanda.
I was thinking of this just now because Wanda said that Stanley was still a warlord and had just gotten control of the Arkenhammer when she invited him to Faq. Carrying that line of thought forward, I was wondering if that little inconclusive image might wind up actually being significant later -- portraying Wanda's role in sweeping Saline out of power in favor of her puppet.Last edited by Imgran; 2009-05-19 at 02:31 PM.
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2009-05-19, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
Then why is she in chains?
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2009-05-19, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
She isn't in chains -- or doesn't appear to me to be. She does look like she might be handcuffed, but even that isnt' clear.
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2009-05-19, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
I also wondered when I saw it first. Could be a red herring, could be checkov's gun.
For later speaks, that we only see very few living humans from GK. Only Saline, Stanley, Sizemore, Maggie and shortly Manpower. Then the 4 other uncoraked warlords, and more uncroaked. We see dozends of RCC soldiers and even some normal units from Faq, but never from GK.
My theory: maybe that was some noble or royal unit, that started to charm Saline IV and threatened Stanley's position as heir. So either Stanley or Wanda had to act.
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2009-05-19, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
It does look as though Saline's head might fall once removed from his shoulders. And it's a steep drop. A steep drop. Ah ha! Clearly, Stanley conceived the whole plot!
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2009-05-19, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
There were supposedly fewer than 200 human units in Gobwinknob
This is possibly made up of the pikers, archers, and stabbers... though it's possible that one or more of those groups were non-human like the knights... though the pikers were definitely human as Stanley started out as a piker... and considering manpower used a sword, i'd say it's somewhat likely that the stabber-class were also humanLast edited by slayerx; 2009-05-19 at 04:16 PM.
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2009-05-19, 04:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
It is too little to tell, that picture- although yes, it would be significant and tie in well with the rest of the story.
Alas, we don't see much. Really, that doesn't look as much as Wanda as it resembles the Predator.
SpoilerAlso, were you aiming for a reference for art nerds? "this is not a pipe"Last edited by BLANDCorporatio; 2009-05-19 at 04:34 PM.
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
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2009-05-19, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
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2009-05-19, 07:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
In the 4th panel of 87/79, if any silhoute looks like Wanda, it's the one holding the sword to Saline. It is bigger than the other goblins and, to me at least, it has always looked female and almost as if it's wearing a cowl. It could be Jillian but that doesn't quit jive with her story 92/83.
We know after 160/147 that Wanda was in a position to inform the goblins that (1) Stanley was away and (2) he might not be coming back and (3) Saline was undefended.
So Wanda might have "encouraged" the goblin revolt. But that said, it is hard for me to imagine why or how she would leave FAQ just before Stanley attacked or why or how she managed to be the one holding a sword to Saline's head.
As for the big-headed figure you circled, I've always thought that must be someone else from Saline's big-headed clan. Saline is strangely proportioned, even for an Erf-worlder.Last edited by HamsterOfTheGod; 2009-05-19 at 07:17 PM.
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2009-05-19, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
It's quite clearly a hobgobwin. Refer to Mung or the KISS for example. They're taller than Erf-humans (though still a bit smaller than Earth-humans) and fit with that silhouette better than Wanda would.
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2009-05-19, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
Last edited by HamsterOfTheGod; 2009-05-19 at 07:41 PM.
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2009-05-19, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-05-19, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
Look you both realize that:
1) The OP said he thought the silhouted figure he circled was Wanda.
2) I pointed out that I thought that the circled figure did not resemble Wanda in the least, not in my opinion. If anything, the circled figure's large head was similar in proportion to Saline's large head.
3) I said the the silhouted figure did not look like a gobwin to me (hob or otherwise). Something about it makes it look different from a gobwin for me. Which means to me tha it might not be gobwin. Or it might be a gobwin. I can't say for sure.
4) I said that although Wanda may have tipped off the gobwins that Stanley was away that there was no reason for Wanda to be away from FAQ or to be in that picture (not as far as we know).
So I was disagreeing with the OP that Wanda was in the picture. I was not saying what was definitely in the silhouted picture
Yet you two insist that it must be a hobgobwin in the silhoute? And obviously the silhoute drawing was chosen to make it crystal clear what happened in that picture...Last edited by HamsterOfTheGod; 2009-05-19 at 08:54 PM.
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2009-05-20, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
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2009-05-22, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-05-23, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The fall of King Saline IV
A couple of missing points: When Stanley retook GK is highly doubtful that Wanda was left behind on the mission, she was probably with the group of several other casters. Sizemore does not mention anymore about it and we do not see in any of the other frames confirming this to be what actually happened. The circled figure could easy be the personal lackey of Saline and also dismissed in that fashion Not enough evidence, case dismissed.
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