Twilight - Love it, or Hate it?

[KataraAltinaII]

time for the new member to pitch in his two bits...

I saw the movie the other day, and am still trying to get my hands on the book. [I did get my hands on "New Moon" and decided "Hey, you get what you get" and so read it]

ultimately, I think that Twilight is "in-between", which I didn't think was possible. (you either love it or hate it. wow, I use parenthesis too much).

that said, I think that it's not as bad as people make it out to be, but similarly, and more prominently, it's not as "OMG SQUEE" as people make it out to be. it's just a story. Sure it's got some cheesy parts/lame parts/whatever, but being a writer, I can relate to that sort of thing.

that said, it's the way things are.

[Primal Fury]

I'll keep this nice and simple, since so many other people seem to share my opinion. I saw the movie, and do not wish to read the book. Sparkling/diamond-skin/whatever is bad. Glorifying abusive relationships is bad. And another thing... women often complain that men are too superficial, but they turn around and squee over Edward who has no other defining characteristic other than being "hawt." I even went to one of those "looking for my edward cullen" pages, and found that one lady said that she cries herself to sleep because she has not found a guy who intimidates and overwhelmed her because he is so incredibly handsome. Really? Nevermind that he stalks you and may possibly beat you, as long as he looks good it doesn't matter, right? Wh... why? You know what? I really don't as bad about how superficial I am now. I mean, she doesn't need to be no... Haley Barey, but she shouldn't be homely either... Gah. Off-topic. Uh... Yeah. Twilight = Bad. Books written by Darren Shan = Good. (Not great. But still good)

P.S. Stephine Meyer is kinda hot.

[JadedDM]

P.S. Stephine Meyer is kinda hot.

Yeah, in a MILF sort of way.

[Faulty]

P.S. Stephine Meyer is kinda hot.

Ew. She's like Sandra Bullock with about 40 extra pounds.

[Primal Fury]

Ew. She's like Sandra Bullock with about 40 extra pounds.

Well excuse me for lovin' big women.

[The Tygre]

Well excuse me for lovin' big women.

You got blubber fever boy! Blubber fever! You stay away from our women! Or take them. I don't really care...

[JadedDM]

Well excuse me for lovin' big women.

Nothing wrong with that, my friend. Nothing wrong with that.

(Don't get me wrong, I doubt I could stand talking to Meyer for more than five minutes before my brain attempted clawing out of my cranium, but...yeah, I'd still hit that.)

[Primal Fury]

You got blubber fever boy! Blubber fever! You stay away from our women! Or take them. I don't really care...

Hey now, I have my limits. Stephine Meyer, and Queen Latifah most definately.

But... Mo'nique... How ever wonderful she may be, I just can't take that much woman.

[Nameless]

I say we each buy a copy of Twilight, get togethor and BURN THEM.

[Avilan the Grey]

Never saw it, never read it, never will.

I am a sucker for vampires (pun intended, obviously!). But there is nothing I have found about these books that makes me want to read it. Both the bad and good reviews reek of "worst kind of Romance Novel" to me.

Now other "girly" vamp stories I have read and actually liked (Trueblood, which is also a good TV series. Not to mention Moonlight).

[DnDgeek13]

i HATE the movie. They could have done a lot better job with it. VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE!!!

[Primal Fury]

At the risk of derailing this thread, I'd like to know what people think White Wolf did to vampires. I saw that metioned a few times here, and I'm a bit confused.

[Lord Seth]

Can't remember if anyone posted it before, but I found The Agony Booth's recap of the Twilight movie to be fairly entertaining.

[lisiecki]

At the risk of derailing this thread, I'd like to know what people think White Wolf did to vampires. I saw that metioned a few times here, and I'm a bit confused.

Eh... the vast majority of these posts seem to be "I have never read the books, yet still, i don't like them"

Every vampire in the world of darkness CAN sparkle if they learn how

[Collin152]

At the risk of derailing this thread, I'd like to know what people think White Wolf did to vampires. I saw that metioned a few times here, and I'm a bit confused.

I actually kind of like the way they're portrayed in Vampire: the Masquerade.
The whole, descendants of Cain thing. The Camarilla, the Sabbat... It's all very interesting.

[raitalin]

I generally like WoD vampires. Since as a game it required the ability to customize your character it allowed for virtually anyone's conception of a vampire. The clans pretty well covered all the potential vampire archetypes and the powers covered pretty much any ability you could attribute to them. While I personally dislike the artsy, haughty types (Toreador) that just means I don't play them.

I liked WoD's set of weaknesses, too. It chucked out some of the sillier stuff like garlic, no-reflection and the inability to cross running water (in most cases, of course). It left some of the crucial details: stakes through the heart causing instant immobilization, fire being especially damaging and sunlight being almost instantly deadly. It made it possible for a mortal to beat a vampire, but unlikely that a vampire would inadvertently reveal itself or suddenly have its pursuit halted by a creek.

I probably am terribly biased though, as WoD was my first serious exposure to vampires outside of The Lost Boys.

[ThunderCat]

I haven't read the books, and I haven't seen the movie, but I think I love Twilight. It's undoubtedly a bad story, but it's done five things worth loving it for:

1: Made more people read.
2: Renewed the interest in speculative fiction.
3: Shown that human females can be just as shallow and obsessed with physical appearance as males.
4: Gotten people to talk about the effect descriptions of unhealthy, fictitious relationships can have on young people.
5: Once again confirmed that the geek community is by no means as enlightened as its members want to believe.

[Zencao]

I haven't read the books, and I haven't seen the movie, but I think I love Twilight. It's undoubtedly a bad story, but it's done five things worth loving it for:

1: Made more people read.
2: Renewed the interest in speculative fiction.
3: Shown that human females can be just as shallow and obsessed with physical appearance as males.
4: Gotten people to talk about the effect descriptions of unhealthy, fictitious relationships can have on young people.
5: Once again confirmed that the geek community is by no means as enlightened as its members want to believe.

I have fallen in drunken bro-love with Thundercat thanks to this post

[Jamin]

Or is it because Mormons believe that good people are white?

No they don't. This why I hate twilight because everyone thinks all Mormons are like Stephine Meyer. As far as I know she longer even goes to church

[JadedDM]

"White and delightsome," heh. Actually, I'm pretty sure Meyer is still active in the church and a portion of her profits from her books go to there.

[Saph]

Have to say I'm in the "neither of the above" camp.

Saw the movie, thought it was decent. Mostly I enjoyed looking at the pretty mountain scenery. Bella is kind of boring, but eh, that's normal for female leads in F/SF stories. Very few writers can resist the temptation to make their heroine either universally adored or ridiculously hypercompetent.

I thought the baseball game was hilarious. :) Edward is completely without personality, but then that's kind of the point. He's a blank slate that you can project your own desires onto.

Worth watching, not worth buying. I doubt I'll read the books, though I might look at them some time just out of curiosity over what everyone's so worked up about.

So, no love, no hate. Sorry. :P

- Saph

[Primal Fury]

No they don't. This why I hate twilight because everyone thinks all Mormons are like Stephine Meyer.

You mean all Mormons aren't MILF's?! Aw man...

[JadedDM]

Dude, I have Mormon relatives and have been to Utah and let me assure you...

They are NOT.

[The Glyphstone]

There's a polygamy joke in here somewhere, i know it...too tired to think...

[Fay Graydon]

i HATE the movie. They could have done a lot better job with it. VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE!!!

*Agrees*
We burn her for killing off the Vampire genre...

[Pearl]

*Agrees*
We burn her for killing off the Vampire genre...

Eh, it may have been driven underground but that means that only the best of the best legitimate Vampire stories will make it. Just because stuff like Let the Right One In is hard to find hardly means it's doomed.

[littlequietguy]

My favorite anti-twilight line:

"Twilight doesn't have any plot twists because the plot is so thin that if you twist it it will break!"

Credit to Prosper-

[raitalin]

*Agrees*
We burn her for killing off the Vampire genre...

30 Days of Night and Underworld weren't too long ago (though its influence on the genre is debateable) and True Blood and "Let the Right One In" are both excellent. There's plenty of unlife in the genre yet.

My new goal is just to point Twilight fans in the direction of better stuff they may enjoy.

[MichelleLBC]

i honestly didnt think i was going to like it. i avoided it for as long as possible until my best friend who is obsessed with it made me watch it. its awesome. i dont know what they do, but robert pattinson puts you under a spell. you become obsessed with him. im excited for the new one to come out :)

[shazza95]

i havn't seen the movie, only some ads, but 2 of my friends have and they both thought it was s**t. (in thier words, not mine)
but i do know this, that vamp guy has got a huge forehead!!


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