Arena Tournament, Round 51: McToughy Vs Dense

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Arena Tournament, Round 51: McToughy vs Dense

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XP Reward: 300 XP
GP Reward: 300 GP

McToughy - Alterform
Dense - Psionic Dog


All Gladiators, please declare final purchases (if any) and roll initiative.

[AlterForm]

init - (1d20+1)[4]
Starting B13

No purchases yet; reserving reactionary purchases.

[Psionic Dog]

Ha! Rematch time.

Purchasing... a breastplate.

I have distinct memories of McToughy beating Dense's AC by 1 in the last match.

Reserving right to make counter-reactionary purchases if applicable etc.

Initiative - (1d20+3)[9]

[AlterForm]

McToughy buys a set of Banded Mail.

[Psionic Dog]

Hmmm. No more purchases. Feel free to kick this thing of whenever you are ready.

[AlterForm]

No more purchases. You have initiative.

[Psionic Dog]

Whoops, I somehow thought you'd rolled a 14 and were starting.

Ok, sheet updated to reflect last match expenditures and new purchase.

Dense - Round 1

A gnome in a shiny polished breastplate with a buckler on one arm starts in Y-13 holding a loaded crossbow in his buckler hand and a flask of alchemic fire in the other. He's mounted on a ridding dog clad in studded leather barding.

Auto-succeed on Guild with Knees,
Ride to L-12.
Standard action: Total defense.

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Location: L-12
HP: 16/16
AC: 24 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield +4 total defense)

Crossbow Ammunition: 34
Alchemist Fire: 3


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)

[AlterForm]

McToughy's sheet has been similarly updated.

Beginning the battle with Psionic Focus.

McToughy - Round 1

A hard-skinned Elan covered in leather and loops of metal stands in B13. In his hands is a blood-covered spear.

Move: 20 ft to D10
Standard: Manifest power
DC 16 Psicraft

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HP: 8/8
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 9/10
Force Screen: Round 1 of 10
Position: D10

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

Dense - Round 2

Ride 40 ft to D-12 and then another 35 ft to F-17.

Throw alchemist fire from D-12.
Touch Attack - (1d20+2)[17] (including -4 for mount movement)
Damage - (1d6+1)[4]

Done.

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Location: F-17
HP: 16/16
AC: 24 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield +4 total defense)

Crossbow Ammunition: 34
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)

[AlterForm]

McToughy - Round 2
Spend 1 PP to negate the damage.
Move: 20 ft to D14
Move: 20 ft to E17

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HP: 8/8
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 8/10
Force Screen: Round 2 of 10
Position: E17

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

With any luck I'll score a hit and force you to take damage for once.

Dense Round - 2 3

Alchemist fire finishes burning: Fire Damage - (1d6)[2]

Fight with Mount - (1d20+4)[22] DC 10
If success,
Bite Attack - (1d20+3)[5]
Damage - (1d6+3)[5]

5-ft step to G-17
Standard Action: Fire crossbow!
Attack - (1d20+7)[25]
Damage - (1d8+1)[2]
Move Action: Reload crossbow.

Crit Confirm - (1d20+7)[10]
Extra Damage - (1d8)[8]

Done.

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Location: F-17
HP: 16/16
AC: 20 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield)

Crossbow Ammunition: 33
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)

[AlterForm]

McToughy - Round 3
Spend a PP to negate 1 of the damage sources. 2 damage sustained.

5-ft step to F17
Stab Dense with a spear attack.
Attack - (1d20+5)[20] kapow!
Damage - (1d8+6)[14] smack!
Crit Confirm - (1d20+5)[15]
Crit Damage - (2d8+12)[26]

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HP: 6/8
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 7/10
Force Screen: Round 3 of 10
Position: F17

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

Dense - Round 4

"YEOWW!"

Withdraw! south to I-17, west to I-14, and northwest on to B-7.
Total Movement: 75 ft.

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Location: B-7
HP: 2/16
AC: 20 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield)

Crossbow Ammunition: 33
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)

[AlterForm]

McToughy - Round 4

Standard: Manifest power
DC 16 Psicraft:

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Vigor

Move: 20 ft to B17

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HP: 6/8 (5 THP)
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 6/10
Force Screen: Round 4 of 10
Vigor: Round 1 of 10
Position: B17

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

Dense - Round 5

Ride 25 ft or so to D-3.
Standard Action: Fire crossbow.
Attack - (1d20+6)[21] McToughy has cover.
Damage - (1d8)[3]
Critical Hope - (1d20+6)[19]
Crit Damage - (1d8)[5]

If bolt misses: (1d10)[9] On Even bolt breaks.

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Location: D-3
HP: 2/16
AC: 20 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield)

Crossbow Ammunition: 32
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)

[AlterForm]

McToughy - Round 5

Double Move: 40 ft to F11

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HP: 6/8 (5 THP)
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 6/10
Force Screen: Round 5 of 10
Vigor: Round 2 of 10
Position: F11

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

Dense - Round 6

Ride 30 ft to E-7, and then 35 ft back to E-3.
Move Action: Reload Crossbow.
Standard Action: Fire Crossbow.
Attack - (1d20+3)[18] (including mount movement penalty)
Damage - (1d8+1)[7]

Critical Hope - (1d20+3)[20]
Crit damage - (1d8)[4]

If bolt misses, (1d10)[8] Breaks on even.

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Location: E-3
HP: 2/16
AC: 20 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield)

Crossbow Ammunition: 31
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)


Unbroken Bolts:
B-17

[AlterForm]

McToughy - Round 6

Move: 20 ft to D8
Standard: Ready an action.
Readied Action + Trigger:

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Action: Move 20 ft towards Dense
Trigger: Dense attacks McToughy
Readied actions occur before the trigger, which will put Dense in a rather nasty spot indeed...

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HP: 6/8 (5 THP)
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 6/10
Force Screen: Round 6 of 10
Vigor: Round 3 of 10
Position: D8
Readied Action Summary: Move upon attack

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

Dense - Round 7

Ride to C-2 by way of G-2: 35 ft.
Ride another 30 ft to H-4.

Move: Reload Crossbow
Standard: Fire Crossbow from C-2.
Attack - (1d20+3)[23]
Damage - (1d8+1)[8]

Critical Confirm - (1d20+3)[10]
Crit Damage - (1d8)[3]

If bolt misses, (1d10)[6] breaks on even

Done.
Will adjust movement if ready action is triggered.

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Location: H-4
HP: 2/16
AC: 20 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield)

Crossbow Ammunition: 30
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)


Unbroken Bolts:
B-17

[AlterForm]

Readied action triggers in response to the attack; McToughy moves 20 ft to C4.
The bolt hits, and McToughy spends 1 PP to negate 4 damage and absorb the rest.

Turn will be in next post.

[Psionic Dog]

Dense

Hmm. No change, Ending turn the same way.

[AlterForm]

Now things get serious.

McToughy's initiative shifts to "9.1" (just before Dense) due to a quirk in the readied action rules. Round 7 ends after Dense's turn.

McToughy - Round 8
1 PP was spent to block 4 damage from Dense's last bolt.

Move: 20 ft to F3
Standard: Ready an Action
Action + Trigger:

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Action: Move as far as possible towards Dense
Trigger: Dense moves any distance

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HP: 6/8 (1 THP)
AC: 22 (6 armor, 1 dex, 1 deflection, 4 shield); Touch 12, FF 21
PP: 5/10
Force Screen: Round 8 of 10
Vigor: Round 5 of 10
Position: F3
Readied Action Summary: Move upon opponent movement

End Turn

[Psionic Dog]

True 'nuff. Only with but two combatants not much has changed.

Dense - Round 8

Ride to X-3. (80 ft)
Move Action: Reload Crossbow
Free Action: Hold loaded crossbow in Buckler hand
Move Action: Draw Alchemist Fire.

If it makes a difference, I believe those actions are assumed to occur at the movement midpoint (P-4) since the mount is making a double move.

Done.
May adjust actions if readied action triggers before movement ends.

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Location: X-3
HP: 2/16
AC: 24 (+1 size +3 dex +5 armor +1 shield +4 total defense)

Crossbow Ammunition: 30
Alchemist Fire: 2


Mount:
HP: 13/13
AC: 19 (+2 Dex +4 natural +3 armor)


Unbroken Bolts:
B-17

[AlterForm]

Hmmm I'm gonna call in a ref for something. Need a ruling on one of my potential actions.

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My readied action will put me next to Dense as he is moving.
Since RAs occur before the action they trigger, I have to wind up in G3 or G4 (I assume this is my choice?). At this time, Dense will have used a move action (else my RA would not trigger), so even if he forgoes movement (to avoid an AoO), he loses that action, correct? And the, does that then prevent him from using a 5ft step, since he used a move action (even though he moved 0 ft)?
Summary:
1) Do I get to choose whether I wind up in G3 or G4?
2) Does Dense (technically his dog) lose his move action even if he doesn't go anywhere with it?
3) Can Dense take a 5ft step in this situation after I move?

[chilepepper]

Alterform

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My readied action will put me next to Dense as he is moving.
Since RAs occur before the action they trigger, I have to wind up in G3 or G4 (I assume this is my choice?). At this time, Dense will have used a move action (else my RA would not trigger), so even if he forgoes movement (to avoid an AoO), he loses that action, correct? And the, does that then prevent him from using a 5ft step, since he used a move action (even though he moved 0 ft)?
Summary:
1) Do I get to choose whether I wind up in G3 or G4?

I'm confused about how or why you are moving. If you didn't move on the turn you readied the action, you are allowed a 5' step. If your readied action IS to move, you can move wherever you want when it triggers.

2) Does Dense (technically his dog) lose his move action even if he doesn't go anywhere with it?

Whatever action triggers your ready has to be completed after you take your readied action, if possible. They won't just 'lose' their movement though.

3) Can Dense take a 5ft step in this situation after I move?

If he moves he can't, if he doesn't he can.

[Talic]

@Alter:

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The action happens prior to the action that triggered it. Therefore, the action that triggered it must occur, after the readied action is taken. So, as the movement is the trigger, you will be able to trigger your ready action at the first square. After this, you'll move to him (your choice on square). From this, he must continue the 5 feet of movement that triggered the action. After that, however, he may alter his actions, including modifying where he ends that individual move action.

Dense is not able to alter the trigger. As the trigger is a move action, he may not choose a 5 foot step instead.

Dense's move action will be taken, provided he is legally able to perform it. If he is not able to perform at least part of it, then it isn't used.

[AlterForm]

Thanks muchly refs! PD, feel free to open the ref spoilers. Talic explains it especially well (despite how poorly I managed to word my questions in retrospect).

McToughy's Readied Action Triggers
McToughy moves to G3. Dense moves 5 ft to I3 or I4 (it doesn't matter), and provokes an AoO.

Attack - (1d20+5)[15]
Damage - (1d8+6)[8]

Dense has the rest of the first move action and the rest of his turn if that doesn't hit. since that didn't hit.

[Talic]

Note that further movement cannot provoke AoO's (for this move action).

[AlterForm]

Note that further movement cannot provoke AoO's (for this move action).

Well, he is out of reach now, but that is good to note. I honestly forgot that rule until you mentioned it.

[Psionic Dog]

Huh, I total misunderstood the consequences of moving as a readied action to intercept movement. Somehow I thought that since I've never seen anyone do it before there had been an earlier precedent that by some combination of rewinds or what not that no AoO could actually be granted unless the triggeree chose to continue movement.

If you guys are sure about that you may wish to drop in over at the curil v. ran'dhul to correct me where I made nearly the exact opposite ruling yesterday.

This will create some slight changes in my strategy this game and a drastic revision of the remainder of my last turn, so it will be a few more minutes before I post the turn revision.