The Concordium

[teh_meh]

(the day is gonna draw to a close.... tell me if you guys have anything to do that night. I'll wait a little then post the sunrise.)

[Sissyphus]

Daken commands the pool to show the dragons once more, and peruses the cave for interesting features (runes, weaponizable stalactites, illusions, precariously balanced boulder etc...)
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will save, for illusions is
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[Vox Clamantis]

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Cluverius is done for the day. But remember, we're going to give it one more day before we go and fight the dragons. Just in case you want to skip right to then, Cluverius isn't going to do much until then, anyway (except maintain the spells on the prisoners).

[Jalor]

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Tom's not going to do anything either. He'll stand guard over the prisoners overnight, "resting" for eight hours because it is in no way a demanding job. Azazel gave him back his Handy Haversack with another 500 gp of onyx, and he is now sleeping in his shrine.

[MikelaC]

ESHALYN

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Eshalyn as well is done for the day

[WhiteKnight777]

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As is Lazarus. Any reason we're using spoilers?

[Falconknight06]

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Cargean is also finished with what he wanted to do today

[teh_meh]

soo can Daken see invisible things?

[Sissyphus]

No, but as an elf he has much better vision in low light than humans do (he can see normally in low light, torch light, or starlight)

[teh_meh]

the dragons are an illusion. there are no dragons.

[Sissyphus]

The next morning When Daken Arises still shooting coloumns of fire, he immediately makes his way over to the meeting room to wait for everyone else, he seems slightly impatient

[Vox Clamantis]

Cluverius is already in the meeting room when the others awaken, seated in a large chair that he seems to have teleported in from his own chambers. Fierna is seated on his lap, but all of his attention seems to be focused on the rather large, arcane tome that he holds with his free hand. Gormengast stands behind the chair, looking typically disgusted with the world.

The old wizard looks up as Daken enters. Ah, good morning. You seem overly troubled for a man whose agenda is so well advanced. Is there something wrong?

[Sissyphus]

I was studying the pool last night, and i have come to the conclusion that the dragons are illusions, someone or something created an image, i just barley noticed it, but this changes all our plans, we should probably still go, but be ready for actual heavy combat with something when we get there, perhaps we could attempt to work a true seeing through the scrying pool to confirm my conclusion and see if the illusions creator is still there As he says this, Daken, Clearly agitated drops into his seat and says this could put a crimp in our plans, unless we do some good spinning, it could be that whatever is there could be killed anyways, for treasure, which was the original goal, but we'll need a good reason.

[MikelaC]

ESHALYN

If it is sunny when Eshalyn awakes, she will be out on her favourite rock, sunning herself. However, I believe Cargean was raising a storm that was going to last for some time. If that is the case, she will be standing by the window, looking out at her favourite rock, not impressed with the fact that she cannot be sunning herself.
She looks up at Daken as he enters.
Summon up the images of the dragons then. I have the ability to cast "True Seeing" on myself or someone else. Lets see what illusions and invisible tricks our dragon friends have planned for us.

[Sissyphus]

Daken commands the pool "Show me the cavern that housed the illusory dragons

[Jalor]

Tom comes up from the dungeons, his ridiculous mood seemingly intact."The druid talks in his sleep, and has some very interesting dreams. Anyway, I heard talk of illusions. What's going on?

[Vox Clamantis]

Cluverius has closed his book and is trying desperately to glower at the lovely devil draped across his lap. For some reason he can't seem to look convincingly displeased. It would seem that we've been hoodwinked. I should have been more specific in my instructions to these two he clearly means the two smiling devils since I'm sure they spotted the illusion instantly.

The surprisingly robust old scholar pushes Fierna off of him and stands, moving over to the scrying pool. Weaving a symbol in the air with one finger, he casts a spell and then stares into the pool, seeing now through all deceptions.

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He just cast True Seeing on himself.

[Jalor]

"Wonderful. What do you see?"

[WhiteKnight777]

Lazarus

As usual, Lazarus remained unsurprised by this turn of events. He simply waited for his comrade to discover what the nature of the deception was, so that they could resolve the situation appropriately.

[teh_meh]

you see the same number of dragons and same ages. but they are translucent. (if you have knowledge roles, (LAZARUS!) role em.)

[Jalor]

"Describe what you see. I can probably identify it."

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(1d20+27)[35] Knowledge: Arcana

[Vox Clamantis]

Cluverius studies the pool without speaking for several interminable moments.

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Knowledge Checks:
Religion - (1d20+37)[40]
Arcana - (1d20+37)[54]
Planes - (1d20+37)[47]
Nature - (1d20+37)[51]

Unsure which applies.

[WhiteKnight777]

Knowledge - (1d20+35)[50]

Lazarus pondered the information he'd been given, attempting to discern what sort of creatures they might be facing.

Edit: So... what are they?

[teh_meh]

(sorry for delay) you can dicern them to be Force dragons. you do not dicern how or why they had the illusion they were copper dragons, when they are invisible.

[Sissyphus]

Assuming Lazarous is telling us this stuff:

Force dragons? Crap those things are dangerous little suckers, meet up with one and you'll be out of commission for weeks at a time, i say we act to remove them now, or soon, their usually solitary so we eliminate them, and claim they were a great threat to everyone nearby. We should probably rest up, prepare our spells and take them out real soon

[MikelaC]

ESHALYN

I am not familiar with Force Dragonsss, what can you tell me about them. What sssort of immunitiesss do they have, are there any ssspellsss that will not affect them at all? I can ussse a ssspell that will lower their resssissstance to ssspellsss, but sssometimesss thatsss not enough.

Eshalyn waits for the information, while she does so, she casts her own true seeing on himself and looks at the dragons.

[Vox Clamantis]

Cluverius continues to stare, unblinking, at the scrying pool.

Hmm. This changes things. That appears to be an very antique force dragon. Notice the sheer size of the beast. I expect it's lived several millenia by now. He seems to have forgotten that many of his companions can't see the dragons. There are demigods who would cower before such a terrible adversary.

He shakes his head, eyes still fixed.

But we do have the advantage of preparation.

Hearing Eshalyn's question, he coughs to clear his throat and then answers.

Magical force effects are useless, as you might have guessed. Only the most powerful weapons in existence do much more than scratch its hide. That dragon will also be, I suspect, more practiced in the arts of magic than any of us. But as I said; we have as much time as we require.

[Jalor]

"Well, near as I can tell, it's a sort of trap. Aspiring dragonslayers would go in there with acid immunity and such, and be taken by surprise. Also, Good-aligned adventurers would probably avoid them altogether. I've been around for quite a while now, and I think I've seen enough traps to know how to work them in my favor."

Tom begins to pace, lecturing with the tone of a strategist instructing the army's officers.

"The trick to stopping a trap is never to try and neutralize it. Most folks plan that as the worst case scenario. It's not. The real worst case for them is us springing a trap that we know is there. If we walk in there looking clueless, they'll pounce on what they expect to be helpless foes. When we're prepared, the joke's on them!" He punctuates his last line by slamming his fist into the palm of his hand, but his lack of flesh leaves the effect underwhelming at best.

"So for us, that means we just walk in and fight. I can disable anything ambulatory, and kill anything that can die. I'm sure the rest of us can do the same."

[Vox Clamantis]

Cluverius catches Fierna's eye and shakes his head. The temptress smiles broadly. No. This is not an enemy we can face head-on. I've bound a Demon Lord of the Abyss so thoroughly that he obeys my summons in an instant, but I tell you that I'm no match for a dragon of that species and such an advanced age. He rubs his curly white beard thoughtfully. We must use cunning. Coordination is our only chance.

[Jalor]

"Impressive. Both on your part and the dragon's. Strange that these Force dragons don't make use of their power. I'd expect something as powerful as you say to rule planes, not squat in caves."

He turns away, taking a seat. "Again, I've led a lot of battles. When you're shockingly outclassed by an enemy, you do something unexpectable."

"I meant to say "unexpectable", by the way. We need to come up with something that nobody would even consider. Unfortunately, we're somebody considering it."