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2010-04-27, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
@Contingency countering:
SpoilerMost characters here have enough spellcraft to know that contingency spells are CAST when contingency is, and merely come into EFFECT when the trigger occurs. As such, they're not counterspellable.
Moreover, there's no casting motions, nothing to spellcraft until after the fact, so no trigger to react to (counterspell trigger is: "If xxx starts casting". For it to work, you need to be able to detect the casting.)
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2010-04-27, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Ok. Ready a Disjunction for when she contingencies.
yay chain order!
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2010-04-27, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Thanks for taking the lead on this, Mostlyharmful.
I would strongly recommend against acting right away. Contrast a modest expenditure of her spells against a fairly significant expenditure of ours - including our two arcanists' contingencies. If we spend tomorrow doing 24 hour buffs, and then come quickly back to the doorway the next morning, with tweaked spell lists, we'll be better prepared for battle on our own terms.
So, I suggest to combat both we attempt to lure her out of her carefully controlled environment into neutral ground. The most obvious way would be to either terrorize, or make a good showing of terrorizing, that town. Clearly I would like alternate plans to scaring random people for the greater good but it's the first thing that comes to mind.
Or, we could try to FORCE her out, either by systematically destroying her lair or by offering her incentives backed up with impeachable character references, the offer of 100,000 gold for a guranteed true resurrection afterwards with a good god standing surity might turn any wyrms head....
I do, however, like the systematic destruction of lair suggestion. Perhaps if the three of us able to shapechange whale away with beholder disintegrate beams while the others stand guard, we can have an impact. Remember that we don't need to actually empty the lair of sand, just make it less than 15' deep so she can't move around undetected. Alternately, disintegrating a large amount of ceiling does almost the same thing - it allows us to treat the ceiling as a kind of floor, a relatively safe surface against which to operate.
Now that we've seen the advantage that burrowing in sand gives her, and have seen that her defenses are primarily summoned (or else dispel wouldn't have gotten rid of them) monoliths, a set of protection from evil spells will render us effectively immune. It would also be useful to find out whether there can be more than one of the monoliths at a time - if so, ignoring an arbitrarily large number of elementals in our area is dangerous, since our protection is dispellable.
I'd argue that superior invisibility does us no good against this opponent, unless we're burrowing/hiding, because she has true seeing. All it does is prevent us from communicating with each other.
Ensuring that we have enough flying, burrowing, blindsight and tremorsense for everyone will go a long way.
My solution for the contingency, if the readied counterspell doesn't work: multiple disjunctions. She'll only get the get out of jail card of contingency once, and if we're still in her home, obliterating sand, she either completely cedes home court advantage, or eventually faces Torvin's magic hammer a second time.
Clearly, I need to memorize more greater dispels. I think in the whole combat, Theda had one round with a shot at the dragon, but I should have used it to contribute to the dispelling effort."We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
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2010-04-27, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
She's not evil. She's probably good.
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2010-04-27, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
I wasn't clear. The protection spells weren't against Eolestrix, but the summoned elementals. If we all have protection from [alignment of your choice] active, we can effectively ignore them, since they can't touch us, and I don't think elementals have ranged attacks.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
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2010-04-27, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
So it does. It also stops avorals from healing us... hmmm...
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2010-04-27, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-27 at 04:29 PM.
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2010-04-27, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Could you ready an action for when the dragon makes a rude gesture?
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
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2010-04-27, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-27, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-27, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Ready action: if the dragon visibly responds to the Disjunction in any way.
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2010-04-27, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Yup. Although I think that Torvin is the only one of us who can cast Disjunction, so it becomes problematic to ready an action that is triggered by your own standard action.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
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2010-04-27, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Timestop, Dimensional Lock, something else, ready action to disjunct when timestop wears off.
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2010-04-27, 04:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
If you like, although in that scenario, there's nothing stopping the dragon from doing anything OTHER than activating its contingency. Like moving 20' and dimension dooring. I'm not saying that there aren't other combinations that will help. I'm just saying that since Disjunction seems to be a very useful thing against the dragon, maybe we should prepare multiple copies of of it.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
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2010-04-27, 04:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
OpFor(2):
SpoilerFort:(1d20)[10] 2+ passes.
Move towards Center, Slam on remaining avoral.
Slam Attack: (1d20+22)[34]
Damage: (6d8+30)[53]
If threat: (1d20+22)[35]
If Crit: (6d8+30)[63]
Originally Posted by Init
@Kagrenac:SpoilerHow many HP did your Avorals possess? I'm pretty sure it was more than standard, near the 80's range.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-27 at 04:55 PM.
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2010-04-27, 04:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-27, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Ghrems actions:
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Move (burrow) Silently Full speed 60 ft north (using 2 move actions to do so), which should put me at I6, 10 ft deep.
(1d20+27)[42] first move action MS roll (-5 penalty included)
(1d20+27)[34] second move action MS roll (-5 penalty included)
End turn.
OOC discussion:
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Though I don't really want to dictate anyone's tactics or spell choices, this is the way I see it could go down. It takes a concentrated effort though.
Wish (dispel Efflugent Epuration) / Disjunction -> Targeted Greater Dispel magic -> some sort of a grapple attack -> Shooty / Stabby Action.
The first time we try that in a day, the dragon will probably contingency out of there. So you prepare double the spells.
Also additional ideas include spell immunity: dimension lock; not casting mindblank but using morale effects to boost up saves (conviction etc..).
A control weather would be nice also so Ghrem can shoot, at least a little.
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2010-04-27, 07:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Originally Posted by INIT
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@Kagrenac:Spoiler3 Avorals got ripped to shreds by something they didn't see.
The fourth it trapped in the whirlwind at the center of the room, and got hit pretty solidly by an Earth Monolith. Total of about 76 damage, after DR, and factoring in the buffeting damage earlier from the wind.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-27 at 11:08 PM.
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2010-04-27, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
They have no real options for escape except to die. So any that are alive are likely to commit sepuku to flee back to the Celestial realm from whence they came.
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2010-04-28, 12:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Fair enough.
OpFor:SpoilerDragon casts miracle: duplicating Summon Nature's ally 7, for 1d3 Average Xorn. (1d3)[3] Placement and actions will occur momentarily.
Xorn 1: H9, 5 feet under.
Xorn 2: H13, 5 feet under.
Xorn 3: L9, 5 feet under.
All within 30 feet of one another, per spell description. Blanketing the room in Tremorsense.
Xorn 1: Move to H6, -10.
Xorn 2: Move to H5, -10.
Xorn 3: Move to J6, -5.
Turn not over.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-28 at 12:21 AM.
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2010-04-28, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
@Ghrem:
SpoilerYou hear three creatures burrowing through the sand towards you, not at all quiet. One appears to end slightly to the Northwest, one appears due west, and the third appears to your east.
Two attacks come in:
Attack: (1d20+12)[29] vs flat footed AC
Miss chance: (1d2)[1] 1 misses
If hit: (4d6+3)[15]
If threat: (1d20+12)[31]
If crit: (4d6+3)[17]
Attack: (1d20+12)[19] vs flat footed AC
Miss chance: (1d2)[2] 1 misses
If hit: (4d6+3)[20]
If threat: (1d20+12)[23]
If crit: (4d6+3)[17]
Also, you're entitled to another listen check.
Observers only:SpoilerDragon Moves silently to H7-L11, -25 feet.
MS:(1d20+30)[34] -5 for high movement = 29.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-28 at 12:30 AM.
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2010-04-28, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Attack misses.
Listen check:
(1d20+29)[35]Last edited by Tehnar; 2010-04-28 at 06:20 AM.
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2010-04-28, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
@Ghrem:
SpoilerShifting sand, to the south... Very, very close.
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2010-04-28, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
When his action comes Ghrem will use his helm of teleportation to get to the safe house.
teleport mishap roll:
(1d100)[64]
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2010-04-28, 09:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
And poof! You're gone.
For the rest of the group: Ghrem appears at the safehouse.
Observers only:SpoilerDragon begins reshaping lair in a few minutes.
PaO's are dispelled in key rooms, hallways are flooded.
Treasure gets a PaO (1 piece into a large satchel, remaining treasure piled in).
Dragon abandons lair, Travels to secondary location.
Persistent Image, outside lair.Last edited by PhoenixRivers; 2010-04-28 at 09:22 AM.
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2010-05-02, 05:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
All party members are out of hostile zone. Please Inform me what you are doing, and what your intended actions are.
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2010-05-04, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
As I understand it we're waiting and renewing slots. correct me if I'm wrong.
Torvin's new slots to follow,Give them bread and circusses and the plebs wont rise against you. Give adventurers dungeons and trapped chests and they won't waste time looking to ransack your home and kill your wife.
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2010-05-07, 02:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
New slots for me are ready:
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1: Longstrider, Divine Favorx3 (+3 luck to hit/damage), Remove Fear, Protection from Evil, Protection from Law, Sign
2: Remove Paralysis, Ghost Touch Armor, Hand of Divinity, Silencex2, Find Traps, Aid, Invisibility, Bear's Endurance
3: Anti-Dragon Aura (+5 Luck bonus to AC/Saves), Invisibility Purge, Grace (+2 dex), Magic Vestment (+5 armor), Greater Magic Weapon x2 (+5 weapon), Mass Conviction (+5 morale to saves), Fly, Dispel Magic
4: Assay Spell Resistance, Freedom of Movement, Dismissal, Spell Vulnurability, Mass Shield of Faith (+5 Deflection), Wrack, Dimension Door, Divine Power (+6 enh to strength, +1 hp/level), Lesser Infernal Transformation (gives me the beard attack and sizes me back to Medium without removing size bonuses).
5: Life's Grace, Divine Agilityx2 (+10 enh dex), True Seeing, Teleport, Revivifyx2, Righteous Might (+4 size to strength, +2 size to con, -2 size to dex)
6: Dispel Magic Greaterx2, Healx1, Harm x2, Word of Recall (predetermined safe-house), Heroe's Feast, Mislead
7: Summon Monster VII, Greater Teleport, Greater Bestow Curse, Greater Plane Shift, Stormrage, Holy Transformation (+4 sacred to STR, saves), Infernal Transformation (+4 profane to STR, CON)
8: Dimensional Lock, Widened Wall of Stone , Quickened Divine Power, Quickened Dimension Door, Mass Death Ward, Polymorph Any Object (Become Horned Devil), Veil of Undeath
9: Quickened Righteous Might, Time Stop, Miracle, Summon Monster IX, Extended Holy Transformation, Extended Infernal Transformation
Man I made so many scrub mistakes when first making this character that I'm surprised I'm still alive. Wasted well over 100k in gold (close to 125k) in worthless magic items that I'm seriously considering using as bartering chips. Any chance I can stop by the local magic item mart to exchange them for things of half value? I do have access to Plane Shift and the Teleport line so I could pop over to Sigil
EDIT: Also I accidentally caught a glimpse of the power of Polymorph. What a deliciously overpowered fourth level spell that is. It's worth it to use it from an 8th level domain slot, that's how damn good it is.Last edited by Superglucose; 2010-05-11 at 12:18 PM.
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2010-05-07, 02:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-07, 02:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Against the Dragon: An ECL 20 Mini-Adventure
Yes, yes, I switch my int.
I'm off to do some shopping! Yaaaaay, shopping!Last edited by Superglucose; 2010-05-07 at 03:14 AM.