Arena Tournament, Round 77: Tezx Darktongue vs. Murray

[Corsair420]

Tezx R4:

Double move to R8

i'm done

[HCL]

The swarm appeared and acted immediately (standard action summon) from what I understand so I need to know if its goin after me or him before i take my turn.

[Bayar]

High Ref PsiDog

Correct, a swarm can't be summoned through solid glass. However, Murry isn't attempting to cast through solid glass. He's trying to cast into E-13 at +20 ft, and the map shows a big open doorway at E13/F14 for him to cast through.

Next, the restrictions Bayar noted do not apply here. The rules aren't "can't summon into air" but rather "creatures can't be summoned into an environment that can't support them" Thus a celestial whale couldn't be summoned in mid air since whales do not live and thrive in mid air. A whale could however be summoned underwater. Similarly, a bat swarm can't be summoned underwater, but could be summoned in mid air.

Finally, let me once again remind everyone that a single swarm unit isn't shapeable. A single flying swarm element occupies a 10ft cube. Gargantuan swarms, made of multiple smaller swarms, may be shaped- but only be rearranging the relationship between swarm units. Individual swarm elements always occupy 10ft areas when space allows.

Conclusion:
A swarm may appear with a corner in E-13+20
Said swarm may not stretch from E-13 to E-10.
The Swarm appears in the cube closest to specification, which I believe is the cube (D12+25)/(E-13+20)

Conjuration

Each conjuration spell belongs to one of five subschools. Conjurations bring manifestations of objects, creatures, or some form of energy to you (the summoning subschool), actually transport creatures from another plane of existence to your plane (calling), heal (healing), transport creatures or objects over great distances (teleportation), or create objects or effects on the spot (creation). Creatures you conjure usually, but not always, obey your commands.

A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.

The creature or object must appear within the spell’s range, but it does not have to remain within the range.

Emphasis mine.

[Psionic Dog]

Hmm. I'd forgotten about that text. Still, wouldn't air count as a supporting surface for a creature capable of hovering? I know aquatic summons are possible and water strikes me as scarcely more of a surface than air.

Anyone else have a comment?

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If we rule that summoning in air under any condition is invalid we'll have to rewind all the way back to round 1 when the very first summon was also brought in mid air.

[HCL]

Bat swarms by definition appear in the air. The bats at the top of the swarm have to be flying. If you want we can rewind back to the first time I summoned it.

[Kyeudo]

GM Kyeudo

Since a creature flying is by definition not floating, a flying creature may be summoned in midair.

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

The swarm appeared and acted immediately (standard action summon) from what I understand so I need to know if its goin after me or him before i take my turn.

Assuming this is correct then the swarm immediate swarms the closest creature.
Tezx was 20ft away from the swarm.
Murry was 25ft away from the swarm.

The swarm turns on Tezx, moving to (E8+20)/(F9+25)
Swarm Damage - (1d6)[5]

Rewind to start of Tezx Round 4 where Tezx needs to make a Fort save against Distraction.

[Corsair420]

i'll do the same action but heres the fort

Fort Save: (1d20+3)[5]

[HCL]

Murray concentrates on the swarm and moves to D13

[Corsair420]

I thought i requested an LoS and such i'll repost

[Psionic Dog]

Illegal action: Rewind to Tezx, Round 4

Creatures who fail their save vs a swarm are nauseated for one round and are limited to a single move action. A double move is not an option.

[Corsair420]

damn this is starting to look bad for me

Tezx R4:
i'll move to F14

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my move puts him closer to the swarm then me

I'm done

Stats:

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HP: 6/11. AC:19, Loc: F14

[HCL]

Murray Round 6 is it?

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I am currently at 0 hp (I think, someone can check the math for me) can fight to -9

Standard: Concentrate on the swarm

tower shield is providing full cover

Listen check (1d20+3)[12]

End turn

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

@Murray, actually only round 5

Anyway Full LoS to everyone.
To be clear, Murray is in D13 after concentrating and setting shield to full cover.
Tezx is in F-14+20 on the glass.

Lets see, swarm was at (E8+20)/(F9+25).

Tezx is in F14+20 (25 ft away from swarm)
Murray is in D13+0 (20ft away horizontally, 20ft away vertically, works out to 30ft away on diagonal)

Swarm moves to (E12+20)/(F13+25) to engage the closest character, Tezx.

Swarm Damage - (1d6)[4]
DC 11 Fort Distraction save again

[Corsair420]

Damn elevation

Fort: (1d20+3)[4]

now i must see my result before my action

[Corsair420]

ok, i think i'm going for broke here

i'm gonna move to F9 and then drop down to E9

DC 15 jump check: (1d20+3)[4]

on a success it's 1d6 nonlethal damage

freakin A i'm getting screwed on rolls

[HCL]

Murray summons a swarm of spiders on top of you and runs 30 feet north to D7

(1d6)[6] damage, dc 11 fort save against (1d3)[2] str damage, and a dc 11 fort save against nausea. you take 1 damage of bleeding from the bats

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Murray takes 1 damage putting him at -1, he has rageclaws though so he is still good

EDIT: Will the winner of this match continue to take bleeding damage in the next match until he heals himself? He will not die in the period during which he makes purchases however correct?

[Corsair420]

at this point will the failed jump check, the bleed damage and the spider swarm i'm just going to concede the match to you... I never got to fire off a shot, I hate oyu for it, but good match

[Sallera]

High Ref Sallera

Murray takes victory by proxy.

You will, indeed, continue bleeding in between rounds until healed. From the match guidelines:

• Unlike other rounds, characters are not healed nor are positive and negative effects automatically removed.
• Any special effect currently affecting the character from a previous match carries over. Its duration may elapse due to the one hour wait, but he is still affected by it.