Keychain of Creation 3: Not-a-Keyblade Understanding & Falafel-is-Awesome Prana Combo

[The Rose Dragon]

Also, look at his relationship with his wife -- it was famous as one of the great loves of the First Age. Nobody who has such a wonderful relationship with his wife could be evil, could he?

Yes, in fact, the lifelong goal of his wife, a champion of the moon chosen for greatness and individuality, was to please him - that surely means he is simply that great a husband and not using mind-altering charms of any sort.

[Tavar]

Of course not. Nor is the fact that her current motivation appears to be to kill the Solars, most especially the one carrying her husband's shard, indicative of anything.

[Rockphed]

Yeah, just write that one off as "Insanity caused by extreme age." It isn't like there could possibly be anything worth killing a solar over in their long and varied histories.

[Reynard]

And of course, the Great Curse isn't really a curse, since it just makes them even more virtuous.

[Indon]

And of course, the Great Curse isn't really a curse, since it just makes them even more virtuous.

Except for the ones that backfire the virtue's function, of course, and...

...why are you all wearing white veils over your faces?

[Teln]

Well, I personally like cold a lot better than heat, and as far as Creation rulers go, the megalomaniacal crazed Alchemical Exalted with a god complex is not that bad compared to most other options .

Especially since she just might make you into an Exalt if you work hard enough!

[Rockphed]

Except for the ones that backfire the virtue's function, of course, and...

...why are you all wearing white veils over your faces?

We are definitely not part of a secret society.

[ZeroNumerous]

..., the lifelong goal of his wife, a champion of the moon chosen for greatness and individuality, was to please him ...

And this is why you never put have 5 dots into Solar Bond. Ever. No, not even then.

[Ganurath]

...Clearly, there is something about Solar Bond that I don't know.

[Kyeudo]

...Clearly, there is something about Solar Bond that I don't know.

Solar Bond by nature makes it easier for a Lunar to support his Solar and harder to oppose him. The basic version is just a magical Intimacy towards the Solar.

The Solar Bond background gives you a pool of dice to use on actions that aid your Solar in some way and a hefty MDV bonus when trying to stay loyal to the Solar, but it hits you with a MASSIVE MDV penalty when that Solar tries to get you to do anything. If you have Solar Bond 5, your Solar wins agaisnt you any time he decides to initiate social combat against you unless you are a social-fu master and he's an inept barbarian cursed with bad luck.

[The Demented One]

Damn Misho, you scary.

[Xelloss]

And this is why you never put have 5 dots into Solar Bond. Ever. No, not even then.

step 1/ Lunar-Taming Leash Sun and Moon Method.
step 2/ Soul-Spaning Bridge Relay
step 3/ ????
step 4/ Profit !

[Drascin]

Solar Bond by nature makes it easier for a Lunar to support his Solar and harder to oppose him. The basic version is just a magical Intimacy towards the Solar.

The Solar Bond background gives you a pool of dice to use on actions that aid your Solar in some way and a hefty MDV bonus when trying to stay loyal to the Solar, but it hits you with a MASSIVE MDV penalty when that Solar tries to get you to do anything. If you have Solar Bond 5, your Solar wins agaisnt you any time he decides to initiate social combat against you unless you are a social-fu master and he's an inept barbarian cursed with bad luck.

Yeah, pretty much. It's something you don't ever pick unless you have a lot of trust in (and want the same things out of the campaign as) the Solar's player, because he can get you to do anything, short of jumping into the well of Oblivion (because suicidal options are still not valid), with little to no effort, and when the two of you want to head the campaign in different directions that can only end really badly. And the dice bonuses the Bond gives aren't even that great anyway .

[Ganurath]

Damn Misho, you scary.

On the bright side, we now know that Secret's father is one of those few ghosts that is actually useful to the Silver Prince.

On the other hand, Misho just stole a ghost that the Silver Prince finds useful.

[Recaiden]

On the bright side, we now know that Secret's father is one of those few ghosts that is actually useful to the Silver Prince.

On the other hand, Misho just stole a ghost that the Silver Prince finds useful.

He wasn't necessarily in the Silver Prince's power, was he? Just that Secret was.

[Jerthanis]

step 1/ Lunar-Taming Leash Sun and Moon Method.
step 2/ Soul-Spaning Bridge Relay
step 3/ ????
step 4/ Profit !

I'm so glad they took a situation where some people could enjoy the idea of a Solar/Lunar bonded pair as a romantic ideal, even if other people objected at a fundamental level to its squicky implications and made it so no one could ever again make that mistake again; and that they did it with a pair of charms that no actual player would ever waste experience points on unless they were just going out of their way to be the biggest pricks ever as a character goal. These charms were essentially developed to win a debate... that yes, Solar Bond is a deprotagonizing flaw that Lunars must overcome in addition to Chimerism and the Great Curse.

I always used to say, "Nah, the Solar Bond doesn't dictate the relationship, it can be whatever you want to tell as part of the story." Now the perfect rebuttal will always be, "Nope, these two charms exist, it's always creepy, dangerous or 8xp away from being as such."

Makes me want to outright ignore everything produced past, say, Lunars.

[Ganurath]

The Silver Prince only Exalts those from his nation, save for an incident of learning the hard way due to a corrupted Solar, so if Secret was one of his than her parents are also his subjects.

Next Week, on Crazy Parental Observations: How likely is it that Contagion of Sights is in fact Marena's late daughter? The answer may shock you!

[spectralphoenix]

The Silver Prince only Exalts those from his nation, save for an incident of learning the hard way due to a corrupted Solar, so if Secret was one of his than her parents are also his subjects.

Next Week, on Crazy Parental Observations: How likely is it that Contagion of Sights is in fact Marena's late daughter? The answer may shock you!

Given that Marena's daughter was at most twelve years old when Thorns hit, not very likely.

[Mando Knight]

If you have Solar Bond 5, your Solar wins agaisnt you any time he decides to initiate social combat against you unless you are a social-fu master and he's an inept barbarian cursed with bad luck.

In other words, only take Solar Bond 5 if you want to play the Solar's super-loyal leg-humping dog Lunar. Got it.

[Jukashi]

The Silver Prince only Exalts those from his nation

Unless he had a good reason! I can tell you, for example, that the King of Uncloaked Steel is not from Skullstone.

[Ganurath]

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Marena's daughters was that developed that early, and her apparent height compared to Flame and Ben fits the age. And that's assuming that she hasn't put dots in Appearance in the 4+ years that have passed.

Edit: ...Huh. So Secret is from Skullstone, and we're being thrown a bone as a distraction.

*either got a lot of successes or a botch on the Perception+Socialize roll*

[Aquillion]

Remember that we voted on which deathlord Secret belonged to.

Which means that the fact that it's the Silver Prince is probably never going to be important to the story (although, I guess, you never know.)

[Raz_Fox]

In other words, only take Solar Bond 5 if you want to play the Solar's super-loyal leg-humping dog Lunar. Got it.

Though I know it probably wouldn't work, suddenly I want to play a crazy stalker Lunar with Solar Bond 5. The kind that leaves "presents" beneath her Solar's pillow, makes sure that nobody else tries to "steal him", and follows him everywhere.

Everywhere.

At an uncomfortably close range.

But that's okay, because Sol and Luna meant for them to be together! Why else would they have created such a magical bond between them, and ignited the roaring fires of passion within the Lunar's heart? So she'll take care of him forever, and he'll like it or else.

[The Rose Dragon]

But that's okay, because Sol and Luna meant for them to be together! Why else would they have created such a magical bond between them, and ignited the roaring fires of passion within the Lunar's heart? So she'll take care of him forever, and he'll like it or else.

At that point, however, any reasonably socially competent Solar can just tell you to stop that.

If he has Charms to enforce it, it will be even more effective, but it's not really required.

Unless, of course, you're a Changing Moon with Irresistible Silver Spirit and Perfect Symmetry.

[Ganurath]

Though I know it probably wouldn't work, suddenly I want to play a crazy stalker Lunar with Solar Bond 5. The kind that leaves "presents" beneath her Solar's pillow, makes sure that nobody else tries to "steal him", and follows him everywhere.

Everywhere.

At an uncomfortably close range.

But that's okay, because Sol and Luna meant for them to be together! Why else would they have created such a magical bond between them, and ignited the roaring fires of passion within the Lunar's heart? So she'll take care of him forever, and he'll like it or else.

What if she's bonded to an Abyssal?

[Sojiko]

Why the hell did Misho use Necromancy?

Seriously. He is (at least) a Celestial Sorcerer, that means he can use the Sapphire Circle spell "Summon Ghost". Why not use his favored discipline instead of Necromancy?

[Jukashi]

He'd have had necromancy anyway. It's less costly to use the necromancy version, and it's less likely to attract attention.

plus it looks, like, totally sweet man

[spectralphoenix]

Why the hell did Misho use Necromancy?

Seriously. He is (at least) a Celestial Sorcerer, that means he can use the Sapphire Circle spell "Summon Ghost". Why not use his favored discipline instead of Necromancy?

1) Casting the Sorcery version requires three hours instead of one (though artistic liberties are probably being taken with the casting time anyway.)

2) The Sorcery version requires two dots of will instead of one.

3)If he learned the Necromancy version first (and he might have, perhaps they only created the sorcery version after Necromancy was invented) picking up a less efficient version of a spell he already knows would be a waste of resources.

4) Using Necromancy probably has a bigger emotional effect on Secret.

Edit: Yeah, what Jukashi said.

[Eco-Mono]

Man, Misho's castemark looks so enthusiastic about dunking for ghosts.

...admittedly, it tends to look enthusiastic about basically everything. I just felt like it was worth mentioning somehow.

[ZeroNumerous]

Makes me want to outright ignore everything produced past, say, Lunars.

Nah, it's only Glories. Like Zeal, most people will ignore the existence of those charms(I hope).