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    Default Re: Keychain of Creation 3: Not-a-Keyblade Understanding & Falafel-is-Awesome Prana C

    So... vent frustration = OMNOMNOM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    So... vent frustration = OMNOMNOM.
    Lunar's gain limit when under the light of the full mood, so she might have been under a limit break. And for Lunars, they play off of their animal tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    So... vent frustration = OMNOMNOM.
    Seems like a reasonable idea to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    So... vent frustration = OMNOMNOM.
    I fail to see how this is unusual in any way (on the other hand, that might have been just my ex ). The fact that Marena can instantly get teeth sharp enough to rip your arm off, on the other hand, is a tad problematic .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    I fail to see how this is unusual in any way (on the other hand, that might have been just my ex ). The fact that Marena can instantly get teeth sharp enough to rip your arm off, on the other hand, is a tad problematic .
    Eh, he's a Solar. He probably has a charm for making his skin as tough as steel plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeudo View Post
    Eh, he's a Solar. He probably has a charm for making his skin as tough as steel plate.
    He's an Exalt. It already is.

    Exalts soak lethal damage with their stamina. Mortals do not. Ergo, Exalts have tougher skin than mortals.

    Plus he probably has a couple of Ox-Body Techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    He's an Exalt. It already is.

    Exalts soak lethal damage with their stamina. Mortals do not. Ergo, Exalts have tougher skin than mortals.

    Plus he probably has a couple of Ox-Body Techniques.
    It's only leather by default. You have to stack on a Resistance Charm to get steel or better.
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    Hey, I just realized that the second-to-last panel has Misho giving himself Limit for what he did to Secret.

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    Hey, I just realized that the second-to-last panel has Misho giving himself Limit for what he did to Secret.
    Nope. Any Limit Event is outlined in black border. As per this strip
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    I said he was gaining limit, not that he was having an actual Limit Break. An innocent (Secret) is suffering and he cannot relieve said suffering.

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    Wouldn't he be gaining Limit either right before or during his "stern teacher" act, as opposed to afterward?

    Also, this sort of situation is exactly why Misho should look into Cosmic Transcendence of (Virtue). No more Compassion checks over the little things, like emotional abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Bean View Post
    Wouldn't he be gaining Limit either right before or during his "stern teacher" act, as opposed to afterward?

    Also, this sort of situation is exactly why Misho should look into Cosmic Transcendence of (Virtue). No more Compassion checks over the little things, like emotional abuse.
    He would still have his Limit Break Condition though so he would still gain limit from this experience.
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    Thanks for saving us the effort . BTW, I'm not familiar with setting lore - I presume Secret was born to her father's mistress, how are extramarital affairs treated in the region?
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    Thnx Eco.

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    Oh. Well, I guess Secret's dislike of homewreckers makes even more sense now. Although it'll be interesting to see if her mother was the seducer, the seduced, or some other relationship.

    If the seducer, and Secret born out of wedlock, then Marena and Secret's mother-daughter-esque relationship takes on a new angle.
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    Her relationship with her father seems quite good, I doubt she'd feel that way if her father had seduced her mother and left her. It is possible, but not too likely.

    Judging by the circular ornament, the one in panel 35 her father - it's kinda hard to tell with stick figures, but the lack of a skirt would indicate a male. If he didn't raise her, then at least he was quite close to her imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shaman View Post
    Her relationship with her father seems quite good, I doubt she'd feel that way if her father had seduced her mother and left her. It is possible, but not too likely.

    Judging by the circular ornament, the one in panel 35 her father - it's kinda hard to tell with stick figures, but the lack of a skirt would indicate a male. I presume that means he raised her.
    Well, it's a male body shape, and it's wearing her father's necklace, so I'd assume so.
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    I presume it's a personal necklace and not a social status thingy, so yeah. I suppose it would probably indicate he raised her, though why (and how) he'd do that and not recognize her as his child is a little weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shaman View Post
    I presume it's a personal necklace and not a social status thingy, so yeah. I suppose it would probably indicate he raised her, though why (and how) he'd do that and not recognize her as his child is a little weird.
    Maybe in whatever society they lived in, you aren't officially someone's child if born out of wedlock.

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    Her mother may have been one of his servants, so Secret got to spend time with her father, but was never recognized as his daughter. Maybe he had a son born shortly after her, and wanted to recognize him more than his slightly older daughter.

    Maybe he divorced Secret's mom to marry the homewrecker and then secret got born out of wedlock 6 months later.

    Maybe Secret's mom is some form of Godblooded, so the prenancy took longer than normal, so nobody believed her that the child was her ex-husband's because it was 13 months after he divorced her.
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    Nope. Any Limit Event is outlined in black border. As per this strip
    Wow, I never noticed that before, any other events besides Misho's Limit Break in the fire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doran View Post
    Wow, I never noticed that before, any other events besides Misho's Limit Break in the fire?
    There's also this, where Nemem Yi gains Limit as a Sidereal always does(yay arrogance!) Otherwise, nothing off the top of my head.
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    As I understood it, the black frames comes when the Exalts threatens to Limit Break, not simply when Limit is gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedScholarGypsy View Post
    There's also this, where Nemem Yi gains Limit as a Sidereal always does(yay arrogance!) Otherwise, nothing off the top of my head.
    Sorry if I'm being dense, but where's the black border in this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revlid View Post
    Sorry if I'm being dense, but where's the black border in this one?
    Panel 8.

    She might be Limit Breaking there, and suddenly deciding to change plans, though her bit at the end of the chapter implies that she intended to do that all along.
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    I think her plan was along the lines of "grab blade if they seem too weak to guard it; let them keep it if they prove to be strong enough to defend it". Either outcome was "just as planned".
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    A black frame border indicates that the character's actions are being driven by the curse - in game terms, it can (and often does) mean that they've done something that is mainly intended to manage limit.

    Here, Misho might have gained limit, but the Curse isn't driving his actions - it's merely in the background. As a result, there's no border.

    For the same reason, there was no border when Ten dropped a dead body on him.
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