D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class v0.2.3 - PEACH

[Duskranger]

Thanks for the explanation. And now I get it. I still ask myself what would happen if I would Gestalt the tyranid with another class, taking the VoP. With as Gestalt class I am than thinking about Totemist. Or at least something that gives you a lot of attacks. Spirit Lion barbarian could also be taken (or at least one level for pounce).

I mean this class is allready good for almost everything and something like that makes is not only better, but you could do it and not spend LA on getting a bigger HD

[whoiam]

Well, lots of the Tyranid HD/VoP stuff overlaps instead of stacking, so it's not as awesome a combo as you may think.

Of course, there are good gestalt builds for Tyranid - pay the LA to double the stat advancement, for instance, and put some kind of full caster up the other side;) Or, as I'm doing in the test game, jack up the natural weapons count and get yourself some sneak attack.

[2xMachina]

I'm planning a nearly similiar build. Lots of Natural attacks through +limb LA, but focus on Str and just whack stuff. Totemist to buff the natural weapons.

BTW, I'm actually not very sure of the Nat. Weapons... Is it selected on creation of limb, and you can't change the weapon right?

[whoiam]

This is correct.

[Volthawk]

The Energy Weapon says that if your resistances are equal, you choose. Does that mean every time you can choose, so if you resist all 5 energy types equally, you can have an attack for every energy type?

[whoiam]

If you have five energy weapon attacks, yes. My build actually has four, so Cold missed out:(

[Volthawk]

If you have five energy weapon attacks, yes. My build actually has four, so Cold missed out:(

My guy is basically limbed like this:

10 Major Limbs
1 Minor Limb

Minor Limb: Reach, Thumbs
4 Major Limbs: Wing, Walk, Swim
5 Major Limbs: Energy Weapon, Oversized Weapon
1 Major Limb: Reach, Excellent Natural Weapon

[whoiam]

Well, mine minors in skillmonkey so I had to save a few limb points for thumbs.

[Duskranger]

I take the VoP not for the armor and so. So I will take it for the Stat-Enhancements and stuff. And actually since the VoP-fix goes about ECL not HD you do get more bonuses even if you have LA. The only thing you miss is your HD, but with enough Con no one notices that.

I think my build would have a maximum of 2 LA though. Two extra minor limbs with wings LA+ 0,5), one increasement of the HD(+0,5 LA) and 1 times the double attribute (+1 LA)

Four major Limbs with excellent natural weapons, and walk off course.

The tail I do not know about though.

[Lix Lorn]

If I was to Gestalt, I think my character would be a rogue. Or possibly a Bard. Probably Rogue.

[Volthawk]

For Improved Natural Attack, do the energy weapons count as the same natural form, even if they have different elements?

[Dead_Jester]

If I was to Gestalt, I think my character would be a rogue. Or possibly a Bard. Probably Rogue.

How about a Phrenic/Magic in the Blood/Whatever template you like that gives Sla's on the other side for a Psychic Tyranid (go go 2nd ed Zoanthrope)? Actually, that sounds like a good idea ...

[Lix Lorn]

How about a Phrenic/Magic in the Blood/Whatever template you like that gives Sla's on the other side for a Psychic Tyranid (go go 2nd ed Zoanthrope)? Actually, that sounds like a good idea ...

I... don't think I understood a single word of that. XD

[Volthawk]

I... don't think I understood a single word of that. XD

On the other side, apply a template that lets you use SLAs. Like Phrenic, which fits with Psionics.

[Lix Lorn]

Oooh.
I think my lack of any sourcebooks other than RotD is shining through...

[Volthawk]

Oooh.
I think my lack of any sourcebooks other than RotD is shining through...

Phrenic is part of the SRD

[Lix Lorn]

...
I knew that. (Shifty eyes)

[Dead_Jester]

I just proposed that because in Gestalt, it would be both a very flavorfull and resonably powerfull combo. Like volthawk said, Phrenic is in the SRD, and Magic in the Blood essentially let's you use your Sla's more often and improves them.

[Lix Lorn]

Problem is, that gives me MORE LA. +3, total.
It'd be easier to just taken levels in Wilder on the other side. Would give me more skill points too, allowing me to drop the Int down...

[NecroticPunch]

Hm... I think that I'm gonna do some weird crap. If I made a character it would look like this.

10 major limbs from a ton of LA


All of them on ranged energy attacks ^.^

2 of everything. Artillery god.

[Lix Lorn]

Hm... I think that I'm gonna do some weird crap. If I made a character it would look like this.

10 major limbs from a ton of LA


All of them on ranged energy attacks ^.^

2 of everything. Artillery god.

Lol. And walk on your tail?

[whoiam]

Pfft, no. That's an artillery piece. All it has to do is have a servant hired to drag it around;)

[Lix Lorn]

Heh. Awesome. So, ten oversized energy composite bows... Take rapid shot at first chance... put your bonuses alternately into Strength and Dexterity... two Winglets on your tail for a slow, clumsy flight... (Grin)

[whoiam]

I should point out that that would just mean your tail was a regular wing...

[NecroticPunch]

Rawrzars?!

[Lix Lorn]

I should point out that that would just mean your tail was a regular wing...

But you need two wings to fly.
Or two winglets.
I think.

Nope, two limbs. Loophole closed, good work. XD

[whoiam]

You need two limbs assigned to a mode of movement in order to use it. One limb allows you to hold position, but you count as being flatfooted. You try fighting while balanced on one leg;) No limbs and you're just lying about prone. Or you're a Zoanthrope floating.

[Lix Lorn]

In that case, make the tail a Spear for last resort, and give two of the guns winglets, but make them not oversized. The sonic ones, cause sonic is always weaker. XD

Or the fire ones, cause fire is so commonly resisted, and thus less useful...

[NecroticPunch]

I just found a way to become uber epic as a Zoanthrope. If you are a level 10 Zoanthrope with 5 LA for epicacious energy weapons, you can spend it all on ranged energy weapons, and be dealing, like, friggin' 20d6

[2xMachina]

BTW, about reach...

I'm assuming you meant it to be different than normal reach weapons? Cause, reach weapons double your range, but can't be used against adjacent foes.

How I read this here... is that you get a spiked-chain type reach, but if you're large, you only get 15' reach rather than 20' that you get with normal reach weapons.