The Omnomnomicon (3.5 Food System)

[unosarta]

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Sizzling Wings
Minimum Ranks: 7
Cut: Shoulder
Servings: 2
Cook DC: 20
Augment: Yes
Ingredient Creatures: Chimera, Dragonne, Dragon (True), Half-Dragon (Large or larger), Manticore, Spider Eater, Wyvern, Yrthak

The shoulder and wing of a draconic being, this dish is served with hot spices inspired by flavors drawn from draconic fundementia. The eater gains a large pair of draconic wings.

At it's basic level, this dish provides those who eat it with a +10 bonus to jump checks and the ability to glide, allowing them to negate damage from a fall of any height, and allowing 20 feet of forward travel for every 5 feet of descent. The eater glides at a speed of 30 feet with (average) maneuverability.

Augment:
If you beat the cooking DC by five, the eater can fly at a speed of 30 feet for a number of consecutive rounds equal to their constitution score. The eater can still glide between rounds of full flight. The eater cannot fly for a number of rounds equal to the rounds spent flying before he may fly again.
If you beat the cooking DC by ten, the eater can fly without tiring.

You state that the ingredient creatures are Chimera, Dragonne, Dragon (True), Half-Dragon (Large or larger), Manticore, Spider Eater, Wyvern, and Yrthak, but say that the wing is from a dragon.

Otherwise, looks great.

[Admiral Squish]

Actually, I said 'draconic being'. And it's hard to argue these critters don't have draconic features.

[unosarta]

Actually, I said 'draconic being'. And it's hard to argue these critters don't have draconic features.

Hm, I suppose they do. You could add these guys too. Those are what appear to be draconic wings, if my eyes fail me not.

[Admiral Squish]

I WOULD, but they're undead. Huh, outsiders.

Big problem with outsiders is they don't leave bodies. They just sorta vanish back into the material of their plane.

[unosarta]

I WOULD, but they're undead. Huh, outsiders.

Big problem with outsiders is they don't leave bodies. They just sorta vanish back into the material of their plane.

Really? That is very interesting, I have never heard of that. I suppose one could cut off their wings before they died?

[Edit]: I was going to mention mephits, but they too are Outsiders. Huh.

[Edit2]: Stirges should work.

[Admiral Squish]

I'd say stirges are too small. Same with pseudodragons.

[unosarta]

I'd say stirges are too small. Same with pseudodragons.

I suppose.

*Awaits other dishes.*

[Admiral Squish]

I wanted to make sure the setup was right before I started making the actual dishes.

[unosarta]

I wanted to make sure the setup was right before I started making the actual dishes.

It looks great, go ahead.

[Edit]: Just an idea, you might want to think about making a template for dishes, so that if a DM wants to add a new dish for a monster he just created, he has the option of doing so.

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Description. What the Dish looks like, and so on.

Basic bonuses and features. These are granted as long as the cook made the DC for the dish.

Augment:
What happens if the cook beat the DC by more than a certain number, usually 5 or 10.

Just an idea. Adjust as necessary.

[Admiral Squish]

Aboleth brain prototype.

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Aboleth Brain
Minimum Ranks: 12
Cut: Head
Servings: 1
Cook DC: 28
Augment: Yes
Ingredient Creatures: Aboleth

The aboleth brain is a complicated feast of five parts. The frontal lobe, studded with thousands of hornlike protrusions. The primary lobe, a complex net of tangled tendrils. The ventral lobe, four fingerlike extensions from the bottom of the brain. The dorsal lobe, covered with fine tendrils that twitch even in death. The rear lobe, six tendril-like branches from the dorsal lobe.

The Aboleth Brain grants the eater a +10 bonus to all knowledge checks as you tap into the racial memory of the aboleth. In addition, the eater gains a fraction of the aboleth’s psionic power. He gains the following psionic abilities: 2/Day: Dominate Person, Mirage Arcana, Persistant Image, Veil.

Augment:
For every 5 points the cook beats the DC by, he gains one additional use/day of the psionic abilities.

[Admiral Squish]

Random ideas:
Cooking being it's own, wis-based skill, as opposed to a craft variant.

Predator gets a scaling bite attack that eventually starts dealing ability damage and healing with each bite.

'Bulk points' based off meals eaten that day. DR/piercing, maybe pass a threshold and you get bonuses like counting as one size larger.

Qu get trident proficiency.

Amorphs have powerful build and can swallow whole up to medium size.

[unosarta]

Random ideas:
Cooking being it's own, wis-based skill, as opposed to a craft variant.

In all honesty, it should involve Dexterity, Wisdom, Intelligence, and Charisma (for the ability to actually move the food, whether during a stir fry, or on a grill; the ability to watch and perceive the food, as it cooks; the knowledge of the recipe, and of the ingredients themselves; and creativity, which adds a little oomph to the magic, making it more potent, and actually able to be eaten without internal harm from the magical energies).

But for simplicities sake, Wisdom is fine.

[Admiral Squish]

A lot of skills fall into that thing. Jump would probably be str/dex. I just figured wis wouldl likely express being able to watch and taste/smell if things are done.

[unosarta]

A lot of skills fall into that thing. Jump would probably be str/dex. I just figured wis wouldl likely express being able to watch and taste/smell if things are done.

Yeah, I know, and Wisdom does make sense.

[Admiral Squish]

What about the rest of the abilities?

[unosarta]

What about the rest of the abilities?

The ones that I suggested?

it should involve Dexterity, Wisdom, Intelligence, and Charisma (for the ability to actually move the food, whether during a stir fry, or on a grill; the ability to watch and perceive the food, as it cooks; the knowledge of the recipe, and of the ingredients themselves; and creativity, which adds a little oomph to the magic, making it more potent, and actually able to be eaten without internal harm from the magical energies).

[Admiral Squish]

These ideas.

Random ideas:
Predator gets a scaling bite attack that eventually starts dealing ability damage and healing with each bite.

'Bulk points' based off meals eaten that day. DR/piercing, maybe pass a threshold and you get bonuses like counting as one size larger.

Qu get trident proficiency.

Amorphs are medium and have powerful build. they can swallow whole up to medium size.

[unosarta]

Predator gets a scaling bite attack that eventually starts dealing ability damage and healing with each bite.

Ability damage is a bit much. Healing I can see. I like the idea that they gain bite attack, and then swallow some of the flesh, healing from it.

'Bulk points' based off meals eaten that day. DR/piercing, maybe pass a threshold and you get bonuses like counting as one size larger.

Actually, I think this could work very well. However, meals should not stack. Ever. It just strains my mind to even think of how that would work with magics. However, I like the idea that the more meals you eat, the more power you gain. But there really should be a threshold, past which no one can eat another meal, they are so stuffed. Also, I think the more you eat, you should also take a penalty or two to something. Like a penalty to dexterity and movement speed (being bloated), or something like that.

Qu get trident proficiency.

I have no idea what that monster is, so...

Amorphs have powerful build and can swallow whole up to medium size.

Hm, this seems good. I like powerful build interacting with swallow whole. Maybe getting a bonus, or some healing when the dish is augmented higher, and the consumer eats a creature using swallow whole?

[Admiral Squish]

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Ability damage is a bit much. Healing I can see. I like the idea that they gain bite attack, and then swallow some of the flesh, healing from it.

Just like one or two con damage to represent the bleeding.

Actually, I think this could work very well. However, meals should not stack. Ever.
So, you mean only one dish can be active on a person at a time?
It just strains my mind to even think of how that would work with magics.
I'm not sure what you mean.
However, I like the idea that the more meals you eat, the more power you gain. But there really should be a threshold, past which no one can eat another meal, they are so stuffed.
So, like a limit of meals eatable/day? Maybe con-based?
Also, I think the more you eat, you should also take a penalty or two to something. Like a penalty to dexterity and movement speed (being bloated), or something like that.
I could see that. Maybe, go over the limit and you're sickened.

I have no idea what that monster is, so...

Quina from FF IX was a qu. Swamp-dwelling frog-eaters with a tradition of gourmands. They tend to be a little... wierd. In FF IX, Quina wielded a fork into battle.

Hm, this seems good. I like powerful build interacting with swallow whole. Maybe getting a bonus, or some healing when the dish is augmented higher, and the consumer eats a creature using swallow whole?

I'm not sure how I'd make the swallow whole interact with the eating mechanics, actually.

[unosarta]

Just like one or two con damage to represent the bleeding.

Maybe. It still might be a little powerful, but only 1 wouldn't be that bad. Maybe more based on how high you can get the check? Like +1 Con damage for every 10 you beat the DC by.

So, you mean only one dish can be active on a person at a time?

Yes. Sorry if that was too abstract.

I'm not sure what you mean.

As in, two magics competing against each other, trying to empower and strengthen a character? That just sounds traumatic for the character.

So, like a limit of meals eatable/day? Maybe con-based?

Hm, that would be good. Probably something like Constitution modifier meals per day, since otherwise it might be a little bit too underpowered via being slightly useless.

I could see that. Maybe, go over the limit and you're sickened.

Or Nauseated. I mean, you are dealing with powerful magical energy, enough to change your biology with just a taste; it stands to reason that if you eat too much of it, that you will feel terrible, not just sickened, but debilitated by the roiling horror that resides within your gut.

Quina from FF IX was a qu. Swamp-dwelling frog-eaters with a tradition of gourmands. They tend to be a little... wierd. In FF IX, Quina wielded a fork into battle.

Ah. Well, I have never played FF IX. This is where the whole thing about Cooking being wisdom based is kind of weird. If the Qu receive a penalty to wisdom, to show that they are weird, that needlessly makes them underpowered for cooking. Unless they were to gain a +4/+3 bonus to the cooking skill, which might be balanced.

I'm not sure how I'd make the swallow whole interact with the eating mechanics, actually.

Yeah, that would be kind of confusing. Maybe they only receive the abilities from the dishes, because the cook adds enough flair to bring out the magic itself, allowing it to transfuse the character, giving them bonuses. Maybe a prestige class that allows the character to gain the ability as if the creature they had eaten were a Dish, if he makes a cooking check. Or something like that.

[Admiral Squish]

Maybe. It still might be a little powerful, but only 1 wouldn't be that bad. Maybe more based on how high you can get the check? Like +1 Con damage for every 10 you beat the DC by.

What DC? You mean the character's AC? This was gonna be a class feature, not a dish.

Yes. Sorry if that was too abstract.

This is no. You can have multiple spells on you at the same time, the same should apply to dishes. These are NOWHERE near powerful enough to be applied independently. It would be limited by the cuts, though. (You can't have two shoulder dishes on you at once)

As in, two magics competing against each other, trying to empower and strengthen a character? That just sounds traumatic for the character.

You can have bull's strength and bear's endurance on you at the same time, why would this be any different? Same points as above.

Hm, that would be good. Probably something like Constitution modifier meals per day, since otherwise it might be a little bit too underpowered via being slightly useless.

Could be done.

Or Nauseated. I mean, you are dealing with powerful magical energy, enough to change your biology with just a taste; it stands to reason that if you eat too much of it, that you will feel terrible, not just sickened, but debilitated by the roiling horror that resides within your gut.

Well, nauseated for any long length of time is bad. Maybe the same rule as eating spoiled/underdone foods.

Ah. Well, I have never played FF IX. This is where the whole thing about Cooking being wisdom based is kind of weird. If the Qu receive a penalty to wisdom, to show that they are weird, that needlessly makes them underpowered for cooking. Unless they were to gain a +4/+3 bonus to the cooking skill, which might be balanced.

Would be more of an int/cha penalty.

Yeah, that would be kind of confusing. Maybe they only receive the abilities from the dishes, because the cook adds enough flair to bring out the magic itself, allowing it to transfuse the character, giving them bonuses. Maybe a prestige class that allows the character to gain the ability as if the creature they had eaten were a Dish, if he makes a cooking check. Or something like that.

I'm gonna have to think on it, really.

[unosarta]

What DC? You mean the character's AC? This was gonna be a class feature, not a dish.

Wow... I failed my spot check.

This is no. You can have multiple spells on you at the same time, the same should apply to dishes. These are NOWHERE near powerful enough to be applied independently. It would be limited by the cuts, though. (You can't have two shoulder dishes on you at once)

I think that having a lot of them on you at the same time would also be a little unbalancing though, depending on the ability. Having them be limited by the cut would work splendidly, though.

You can have bull's strength and bear's endurance on you at the same time, why would this be any different? Same points as above.

I suppose. But both are enhancing muscles, not giving you wings, a swim speed, extra arms, extra bites, or shapeshift (Just for the aberrations). I know a lot of these effects can already be granted by spells, but they also have to spend a spell slot. But, limiting the dishes you can have active by cut, as you mention above, would help greatly. Also, considering that you can only make what your DM throws at you, and you still would have to spend GP if you wanted to make something else, that makes this system far more balanced than Spellcasting, which is a good thing.

Well, nauseated for any long length of time is bad. Maybe the same rule as eating spoiled/underdone foods.

Where is that rule located? And, yeah, I guess that would be sort of the point, you eat too much, you get really, really sick.

Would be more of an int/cha penalty.

I suppose that would explain the eccentricities. Most often when people express sanity as an ability score, they say it is Wisdom, but that would probably express it just as well.

I'm gonna have to think on it, really.

Just a suggestion. Yeah, maybe I am coming off as a little bit too pushy, but anything I say is just a suggestion. This is your thread, your system, your stuff, and I am trying to help. I love what you have, and if you feel that I am being too pushy with ideas and such, feel free to tell me.

[Admiral Squish]

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Wow... I failed my spot check.

I think that having a lot of them on you at the same time would also be a little unbalancing though, depending on the ability. Having them be limited by the cut would work splendidly, though.

I'm worried about this ending up too similar to soulmends, though.

I suppose. But both are enhancing muscles, not giving you wings, a swim speed, extra arms, extra bites, or shapeshift (Just for the aberrations). I know a lot of these effects can already be granted by spells, but they also have to spend a spell slot. But, limiting the dishes you can have active by cut, as you mention above, would help greatly. Also, considering that you can only make what your DM throws at you, and you still would have to spend GP if you wanted to make something else, that makes this system far more balanced than Spellcasting, which is a good thing.



Where is that rule located? And, yeah, I guess that would be sort of the point, you eat too much, you get really, really sick.

I need to add that in, actually.

I suppose that would explain the eccentricities. Most often when people express sanity as an ability score, they say it is Wisdom, but that would probably express it just as well.

Well, it's not a 'sanity' weird it's just... weird. It's hard to explain. Those who've played will know.

Just a suggestion. Yeah, maybe I am coming off as a little bit too pushy, but anything I say is just a suggestion. This is your thread, your system, your stuff, and I am trying to help. I love what you have, and if you feel that I am being too pushy with ideas and such, feel free to tell me.

You're not getting pushy, I'm just saying I'm not satisfied with any of those and I have to come up with something.

[unosarta]

Replied in bold.

This makes it so much harder to reply back.

I'm worried about this ending up too similar to soulmends, though.

I can see that. Maybe it could be based on Hit Dice?

I need to add that in, actually.

OK.

You're not getting pushy, I'm just saying I'm not satisfied with any of those and I have to come up with something.

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure you understood.

[AtlanteanTroll]

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Sizzling Wings
Minimum Ranks: 7
Cut: Shoulder
Servings: 2
Cook DC: 20
Augment: Yes
Ingredient Creatures: Chimera, Dragonne, Dragon (True), Half-Dragon (Large or larger), Manticore, Spider Eater, Wyvern, Yrthak

The shoulder and wing of a draconic being, this dish is served with hot spices inspired by flavors drawn from draconic fundementia. The eater gains a large pair of draconic wings.

At it's basic level, this dish provides those who eat it with a +10 bonus to jump checks and the ability to glide, allowing them to negate damage from a fall of any height, and allowing 20 feet of forward travel for every 5 feet of descent. The eater glides at a speed of 30 feet with (average) maneuverability.

Augment:
If you beat the cooking DC by five, the eater can fly at a speed of 30 feet for a number of consecutive rounds equal to their constitution score. The eater can still glide between rounds of full flight. The eater cannot fly for a number of rounds equal to the rounds spent flying before he may fly again.
If you beat the cooking DC by ten, the eater can fly without tiring.

... It doesn't ware off?

[Admiral Squish]

... It doesn't ware off?

the duration is seperate. It's on hour, but cook classes will have abilities that make them last longer.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Where was that posted?

[Admiral Squish]

Where was that posted?

...In my mind, apparently. Gonna go add it now.

[Admiral Squish]

Alright, with the cuts idea solidified, I'm going back through the list and creating more dishes, consolidating similar dishes into one, to avoid having to make a whole crapload of unique dishes that do the same thing.

[fil kearney]

the duration is seperate. It's on hour, but cook classes will have abilities that make them last longer.

this sucks for the aboleth fin...

ya know, because you have to wait 20 minits after eating to go swimming...