A full bab divine spellcaster

[monkman]

i am asking to see if anyone had ever made a divine caster,something like a cleric, that has full bab

[Emperor Ing]

Gestalt Fighter/Cleric

What? Don't swing that way? Fine.

Paladin. Alternatively, Rangers, I think get divine casting.

[monkman]

what im trying to find is a divine spellcaster with lv 0-9 spells that get full bab .

[Emperor Ing]

Then Gestalt or get out. However Cleric, with its 3/4 BAB, is a Tier 1 class. But really this is the most I can give you. I know of no divine casting classes other than the rather laughable casting abilities of rangers and paladins that get full BAB.

[Frog Dragon]

The only real way to get this is to DMM: Persist Divine Power.
Edit: As for homebrew on this, I doubt anyone has made one. Full casting doesn't need anymore bonuses.

[Tael]

The Inquisitor from PF has bard casting, full BAB and some nifty class features.

[DrWeird]

I really liked the PF Inquisitor, but it seems they made it just to tack on their teamwork feats because they realized for the most part, that they would just get ignored. Full BAB, divine casting? Fighter/Cleric is the best we can do.

[Violet Octopus]

Fighter 10/Divine Crusader 10?

I'm unconvinced that a full BAB 9-level spellcaster would be necessarily broken. What if the spellcaster was fixed-list? Or drew from a limited set of spells, like the Divine Crusader? Or had an unusual and limiting casting mechanic, such as a randomising divine inspiration mechanic like ToB's Crusader?

As long as the 9th-level spells (or lower) weren't the gamebreaking ones, or synergised too well with full-BAB, it could work.

Possible idea: A divine archer, total glass cannon but has full bab, a spell list with some nice but not amazing archery spells, and oracular spells. Basically the fluff concept of Zen Archery turned into a class.

[Tael]

Possible idea: A divine archer, total glass cannon but has full bab, a spell list with some nice but not amazing archery spells, and oracular spells. Basically the fluff concept of Zen Archery turned into a class.

Sounds more like a Prestige Class to me.

[Zaydos]

I'm unconvinced that a full BAB 9-level spellcaster would be necessarily broken. What if the spellcaster was fixed-list? Or drew from a limited set of spells, like the Divine Crusader? Or had an unusual and limiting casting mechanic, such as a randomising divine inspiration mechanic like ToB's Crusader?

As long as the 9th-level spells (or lower) weren't the gamebreaking ones, or synergised too well with full-BAB, it could work.

This pretty much sums it up. If you made one you'd have to horribly limit its spell list. If you want something quick and sloppy take MH's Healer class, remove the armor restrictions, give it full BAB and take Gate off its list.

[Mando Knight]

No, a full BAB divine full spellcaster isn't broken. It just saves the Cleric a few feats and a shady ruling on nightsticks.

[Aran Banks]

There is no WotC material as such, but you could easily take the Healer and give it full BAB without making it unbalanced.

With a little editing, you could do it to the Spirit Shaman too:

• Drop the skill points by 1 or 2
• Remove Wild Empathy, Chastise Spirits, Blessing of the Spirits, Follow the Guide, Warding of the Spirits, Spirit Form, Exorcism, Weaken Spirits, Favored of the Spirits, and the DR 5/cold iron bit of Spirit who Walks
• Increase the BAB to Good
• Decrease the spells/day by 1 across the board

That should keep them at Tier 2.

[Nero24200]

Theres a PF cleric variant which costs the cleric his/her domains, but grants D10 hit dice and full BAB.

But yeah....I agree that clerics are Tier 1 already, and this variant asks them to give up pretty little.

[Tael]

Theres a PF cleric variant which costs the cleric his/her domains, but grants D10 hit dice and full BAB.

But yeah....I agree that clerics are Tier 1 already, and this variant asks them to give up pretty little.

Most of the time I agree, but in high optimization, a Cloistered Cleric > Cleric > Battle Cleric (or whatever the variant is called). Because BAB is fixed by one spell, while Domains are powerful, and very limited.

[playswithfire]

Not a class, but a convoluted build can come close.

Lawful Evil Human (with Able Learner) Monk 1/Warlock 1/Ranger 2/Crusader 1/Ur-Priest 2*/Sacred Fist 8/Crusader +1

will, at 16th level, have 14 BAB, 9th level spells at caster level 14, 5 2nd level maneuvers and a 5th level stance

The only problem is your caster level can, at best, increase at half your character level, so you can have, at best, caster level 16 if you finish off with more Warlock (17 if you drop the 2nd crusader level). Or, if you're ok with a lower caster level, finish off with more crusader. With either of those or any other full BAB classes, you'll only be 2 away from full BAB and have your ninth level spells.

With the human bonus skills points (human necessary for Able Learner), you can do it with only 8 INT.

Feats
Human: Able Learner
1: Iron Will
Flaw: Combat Reflexes
3: Spell Focus(evil)
6: Combat Casting
9: Practiced Spellcaster(Ur-priest)

*using the text trumps table reading of Ur-Priest

[ericgrau]

No, a full BAB divine full spellcaster isn't broken. It just saves the Cleric a few feats and a shady ruling on nightsticks.

Which is why those are broken.

I think such a class could be made if you remove all personal buffs and remove or raise the level of buffs in general. Any spells with an attack roll would also have to be bumped to a higher level or removed. Basically since you can't attack and cast a spell in the same round (well, except for a low level quicken spell), and since you're missing out on other minor class features, it wouldn't be overpowered anymore.

[Jallorn]

Doesn't the Favored Soul class have full BAB?

[Ajadea]

Nope. It has Medium BAB.

Although, a full-BAB Favored Soul might actually make sense, if you swapped it into more of an Invoking class or limited the Spell List A LOT and made it into sort of an Outsider-Transformation over 20 levels, a la Dread Necromancer and Lich.

[Latronis]

I actually did do favored soul into an outsider transformation at one point, but it kept medium BAB progression.

Many clerics have full BAB anyway so it's not like adjusting it is going to make a difference