General Exalted Discussion II: No Longer Mortal

[Yuki Akuma]

That Resistance charm that lets you make a warstrider with no mobility penalty can be fun, though. Too bad it's Essence 7.

Also hellstriders are badass.

[The Rose Dragon]

That Resistance charm that lets you make a warstrider with no mobility penalty can be fun, though. Too bad it's Essence 7.

Also hellstriders are badass.

Armored Scout's Invigoration is Essence 1.

[Yuki Akuma]

Armored Scout's Invigoration is Essence 1.

That's not the charm I'm talking about.

Incomparable Soul-Born Warstrider. It lets you make a warstrider that doesn't have mobility penalties.

And it's Essence 6. >.>

(Which has apparently been errata'd into nonexistance. White Wolf doesn't like warstriders actually being useful I guess.)

[Teln]

God-Forged Champion of War only requires Essence 4.


...And Celestial Circle Sorcery.

[Lochar]

yes, but it creates a Warstrider with standard mobility penalties.

[Hyperion]

for the lunars critical part in the fae invasion, Lunars MoEP pg. 30 last paragraph, it clearly state that the lunars sacrifice helped the DB take control of the Manse system.

[DrakeRaids]

Look guys. You are obviously confused, and its not your fault. You seem to think that Lunars are meaningfully allowed to effect canon. The fact of the matter is this is fundamentally incorrect. In fact, a cursory glance over 2E fluff reveals that one of its main tenets was in fact that Lunars are incapable of worthwhile action and are [Term for females dogs here] for Solars and unable to do anything on their own because WW apparently hates them.

Anything that might suggest that Lunar can do something on their own or accomplish anything noteworthy on their own virtue is quickly given stealth errata and overwritten, where they are shooed back into the wyld to [Alternate term for sexual intercourse here] animals all day long.

This is why we should ignore most canon having to do with Lunars or rewrite it altogether until it vaguely resembles something befitting Celestial tier Exalted. Because right now? It sure as hell doesn't.

[DragonSinged]

So, we're coming up on page 50 of this thread again, nearly General Exalted Discussion III time. What do you guys think?

GED III: The Next One Takes Training Time
GED III: We Need More Essence
GED III: He's Rolling How Many Dice?

[Tackyhillbillu]

for the lunars critical part in the fae invasion, Lunars MoEP pg. 30 last paragraph, it clearly state that the lunars sacrifice helped the DB take control of the Manse system.

And MoEP: DBs says they didn't. GWM gives yet another story. Each of the splats gives history from the point of view of that exalt/being. It is entirely unclear whether the Lunars had any effect, or simply tell themselves they do, so they can justify their conviction that the DBs are usurpers, and Creation would be better off if the Lunars put them 'back in their place' (i.e. as servants/slaves of the Lunars.)

[Kyeudo]

Well, biggest one is that, generally speaking, you're better off on foot than in a warstrider. Warstriders are clumsy, huge, have huge mobility penalties (this is a big point. -6 DV is much more hurtful than the little extra soak Warstriders give especially with Essence ping rules), require hideous mote attunements and maintenance, and barely give you any actual bonuses... they're just big, clumsy, handicapping power armors, except without the power armors' cool powers unless you pay extra for an animating intelligence. Between a Celestial battle armor and a warstrider, the armor is better in every way, easier to maintain, less obvious, and more powerful.

And honestly, Exalts or no, the idea that super robots are worse than slogging it on foot just doesn't sit right with me .

Well, technically its only a -3 penalty to Dodge DV (armor mobility penalty doesn't affect Parry DV and it only applies to the base pool, not after it has been calculated), but otherwise you have the right of it.

[SurlySeraph]

I was under the impression that when you were in a Warstrider, the Warstrider took damage and you only got injured if it was really severely damaged. But no, it's just a big suit of armor that Piercing still gets through. Argh, I love and hate this system so much.

[Indon]

I was under the impression that when you were in a Warstrider, the Warstrider took damage and you only got injured if it was really severely damaged. But no, it's just a big suit of armor that Piercing still gets through. Argh, I love and hate this system so much.

Yeah, same, I thought Warstriders gave you a second health bar, Magnitude-style.

I suppose that's now a houserule for my games.

[Kyeudo]

I was under the impression that when you were in a Warstrider, the Warstrider took damage and you only got injured if it was really severely damaged. But no, it's just a big suit of armor that Piercing still gets through. Argh, I love and hate this system so much.

I've been thinking about adding such a system to my Warstrider fix, but I want to wait until I get the results of some actual testing of the system before I start making major modifications.

[Drascin]

Look guys. You are obviously confused, and its not your fault. You seem to think that Lunars are meaningfully allowed to effect canon. The fact of the matter is this is fundamentally incorrect. In fact, a cursory glance over 2E fluff reveals that one of its main tenets was in fact that Lunars are incapable of worthwhile action and are [Term for females dogs here] for Solars and unable to do anything on their own because WW apparently hates them.

Anything that might suggest that Lunar can do something on their own or accomplish anything noteworthy on their own virtue is quickly given stealth errata and overwritten, where they are shooed back into the wyld to [Alternate term for sexual intercourse here] animals all day long.

This is why we should ignore most canon having to do with Lunars or rewrite it altogether until it vaguely resembles something befitting Celestial tier Exalted. Because right now? It sure as hell doesn't.

Now, now. It's not quite like that. Lunars are allowed to make contributions.. so long as they die doing it. They can die saving Creation, they can die to protect the party that takes the imperial manse... but always dying. Three brave Changing Moons died to bring you this post. Heroic sacrificing seems to be the only part of Lunarness that doesn't turn you into, as you put it, a [Term for females dogs here].

Annoyed? Who, me? Naaahhhhh.

[Tavar]

So, more theoretical rules for my Robot game. Warstriders have a separate health level track. This track consists of 5 -0 health levels, 10 -1 health levels, 10 -2 health levels, and 5 -4 health levels. It has dying levels equal to it's artifact rating x3. It does not passively lose health levels.

Also, for each 2 actual levels of damage dealt to the Warstrider, the pilot will suffer 1 Bludgeoning damage, which ignores all soak from armor.

[Lochar]

Two lethal/aggravated damage equals one bashing on the pilot. Otherwise, it'll be better to actually use bashing damage to roll over and kill the pilot while the warstrider is still semi intact.

[Tavar]

Well, it'd be based on damage actually rolled, plus the damage would be soaked by stamina as natural. Also, wrap-around damage wouldn't count.

Edit: also, the strider does have an incapacitated level, so if it ever reaches the point that damage wraps around, the warstrider is pretty much worthless.

[Jokasti]

So, we're coming up on page 50 of this thread again, nearly General Exalted Discussion III time. What do you guys think?

GED III: The Next One Takes Training Time
GED III: We Need More Essence
GED III: He's Rolling How Many Dice?

Not until Page 49, bucko.

Re:Lunars- so it needs a rewrite, just like everything else?

[Lochar]

More so than most, probably. At least the other castes have a true focus.


But you know? I could almost see Luna setting up her Exalted that way, except giving them a unique background in the means of Evolution, working kinda like the Infernal Past Lives background, except with less/no drawback. "You may have killed me, but you shall never kill US!"

[TheCountAlucard]

Finally buckled down and obtained Broken-Winged Crane...

And, uh, wow. I was never aware that Phantom Limb could be a viable Exalt build...

[Reynard]

More so than most, probably. At least the other castes have a true focus.

Everyone forgets the Sidereals.




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[Jokasti]

Finally buckled down and obtained Broken-Winged Crane...

And, uh, wow. I was never aware that Phantom Limb could be a viable Exalt build...

Yeah. Infernals... Yeah.

Everyone forgets the Sidereals.




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Nevar forget. When is the errata coming out again?

[Lochar]

Everyone forgets the Sidereals.




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Who? Ever since the Mask got that crack in it, my memory has been like a sieve.

[Reynard]

Nevar forget. When is the errata coming out again?

Noxday, apparently.


@Lochar: Them starfolk people. I think. Or are those astronomers?

I dunno.

[Jokasti]

The Little Sister side is the cool side.
And Sidereals are master extreme sport fishermen.

[Reynard]

The Little Sister side is the cool side.

Little Sister option rocks becuase it's as creepy as all hell and really sad.

Nox option rocks becuase it's hilarious, and also there is incest. But then Venus was involved, and she's a Luna-wannabe.

[Jokasti]

You must be an
Only child.
Gasp

[Tavar]

Little Sister? What does this refer too?

[Reynard]

Little Sister? What does this refer too?

Two options in the Sidereals book, Little Sister and Nox, the Brother.

"Little" Sister is the 6th Maiden, and is the force that keeps the loom running. She's innocent and idealist, but has the various conflicting personalities of the other maidens in her head. They never agree, and recently this has meant she's paralyzed with indecision, and the events currently stirring up the fabric aren't being dealt with properly.

She's also trapped in a small room, somewhere Elsewhere, with no means of escape.



Nox is the older brother of the 5 sisters... and he met an interesting fate. He was loyal to the Primordials. I'll have to crack open the book to get the exact details, but one of the key points was that Venus seduced him for some bizzare reason.

I'm going "because she's Venus."

[Tavar]

Oh, interesting.

If I remember correctly, Nox was seduced as part of a plan to bring him over to the god's side.