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    Because I can't think of Improved Mojo brews T_T

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    Tainted Grace[Harrowed]
    You have contrived to forge an agreement between your Beast and the source of your supernatural powers.
    Prerequisites: Dark Deal, the character must possess class features (such as spells or supernatural abilities) that they would lose access to for changing alignment.
    Benefit: You do not lose access to your alignment-based class features (such as the supernatural abilities of the paladin class or druid spellcasting) while the Monster Within is in control of your actions, even in the extremely likely event that it commits actions in violation of one or more of your codes of conduct.

    Additionally, choose a single class feature that has limited uses per day from a class you possess that has an alignment restriction. Your levels in Harrowed stack with levels of that class for determining the advancement of that ability (such as uses per day of a barbarian's rage, or a cleric's turn undead).

    Tenebrous Champion[Harrowed]
    You draw upon the power of the Beast Within to punish your enemies.
    Prerequisites: Dark Deal, Tenebrous Touch 2d6, Smite class feature 1/day or 1/encounter (examples include a Crusader's Smite ability, a Paladin's Smite Evil or a Blackguard's Smite Good)
    Benefit: Your levels in Harrowed stack with levels in your Smite-granting classes (such as Crusader, Paladin, or Blackguard) for the purposes of determining the uses per day and damage of your Smite abilities. Additionally, if you use your Smite as part of a Tenebrous Touch attack (such as when you channel it through melee or with the Ranged Smiting feat), you instead add your Harrowed and Smite-granting class levels to the attack roll and an additional number of dice to the damage roll equal to your Charisma modifier. This additional damage stems from pure divine energy and is not subject to resistance of any kind.
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    I believe this class needs to get the ability to not automatically fail Will Saves on a Natural 1. The sheer number of times you have to roll vs The Monster Within, combined with the massive duration of lost-control, seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth.

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    Guys, Gareth has been absent for months. <_<

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    Guys, Gareth has been absent for months. <_<
    Yeah...he has internet issues these days. Which is unfortunate. He is, however, still interested in working on this project. He's just currently unable to do so.

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    I haven't forgotten my baby, though - and I try to check in every now and then to see what's going on. I still have no internet at home, so I'm just a-tinkerin' away, languishing without any connection to the Web. Sorry for the lack of contact, ya'll.


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    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    I haven't forgotten my baby, though - and I try to check in every now and then to see what's going on. I still have no internet at home, so I'm just a-tinkerin' away, languishing without any connection to the Web. Sorry for the lack of contact, ya'll.
    Figures. The MOMENT I post saying you have no real internet connection, you someone manage to post something anyway. You devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn_in_Tonic View Post
    Figures. The MOMENT I post saying you have no real internet connection, you someone manage to post something anyway. You devil.
    This is exactly how I feel. |3

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    Hope i'm not necroing by posting now, but i notice a distinct lack of weapon support in the harrowings or harrowed feats, plenty of natural weapons, but no love for manufactured weapons. What if the inner demon is like a Legion Devil, only offensive ability is a shield bash and a sword.

    Just saying it could use a boost in that area
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    Sounds more like an exception than something which needs a rule. At most there should be a note somewhere dealing with the rare occassion when this is appropriate, imho.

    Secondly, I don't personally mind seeing this rather epic 'brew dragged up the board again, it's always nice to see a (comforting?!) face on the forums
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    Guess who has a reliable connection again?!?!?!?


    Quote Originally Posted by Chilingsworth View Post
    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    Guess who has a reliable connection again?!?!?!?
    Ooh! Oooh~! I know! It's me, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    Guess who has a reliable connection again?!?!?!?
    EXCELLENT. I've been waiting for AGES for Jeffrey to get his connection back! Thanks for letting us know he did, Gareth!

    ...although why Jeffrey didn't just tell me himself I'll never know.






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    Did you know that this class has a mention on tvtropes? I was surprised to see it but the link is HERE it's under the tabtletop games section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonwolf727 View Post
    Did you know that this class has a mention on tvtropes? I was surprised to see it but the link is HERE it's under the tabtletop games section.
    ...Wow. And I'm not even done with it yet >.>


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    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Gareth View Post
    ...Wow. And I'm not even done with it yet >.>
    You aren't? What's left to be done?
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    He's in the process of a major revision of some kind or another because he feels dissatisfied with the current version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineThePuma View Post
    He's in the process of a major revision of some kind or another because he feels dissatisfied with the current version.
    Again? No offense, I love this class (it's the reason I joined GitP in the first place) but how many times has it been rebooted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by radmelon View Post
    Again? No offense, I love this class (it's the reason I joined GitP in the first place) but how many times has it been rebooted?
    The upcoming version will be 5.0, and is intended to address the balance concerns Kellus and others have brought up.


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    Wow! Not only was that awesome, I think I actually kinda understand Archeron now. If all the "intermediate" outer planes got that kind of treatment, I doubt there would be anywhere near as many critics of their utility.
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    Someday, it will happen.

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    This isn't necromancy, commenting here?

    I love this class, and I'd probably play as it if I had any choice in the matter. Is there a 5.0 posted anywhere yet, or can i still use the first page of this thread for building?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    This isn't necromancy, commenting here?

    I love this class, and I'd probably play as it if I had any choice in the matter. Is there a 5.0 posted anywhere yet, or can i still use the first page of this thread for building?
    The first post is the current version as far as I am aware, and it works quite well considering I'm playing one at the moment. 5.0 is not done yet to the best of my knowledge but version 4, the first page, works quite well already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    This isn't necromancy, commenting here?

    I love this class, and I'd probably play as it if I had any choice in the matter. Is there a 5.0 posted anywhere yet, or can i still use the first page of this thread for building?
    It's been almost half a year since the last post, it doesdnt get much ore necro than this.If the OP was to post here (since this is their 'brew) it wouldn't be, but as it is, it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroticplague View Post
    It's been almost half a year since the last post, it doesdnt get much ore necro than this.If the OP was to post here (since this is their 'brew) it wouldn't be, but as it is, it is.
    Apologies then, I did have a question though. Has anyone tried mixing this class with Dragonfire Adept? As if a dragon has taken a particular Harrowed under its wing.

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    The first post is the current version as far as I am aware, and it works quite well considering I'm playing one at the moment. 5.0 is not done yet to the best of my knowledge but version 4, the first page, works quite well already.
    What's the best archetype to go for? Stealth/Natural and Ranged Attack is what I'd like to go for, hence my question above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    Apologies then, I did have a question though. Has anyone tried mixing this class with Dragonfire Adept? As if a dragon has taken a particular Harrowed under its wing.
    Maybe? Never heard of anyone trying it but I haven't exactly been looking for character concepts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    What's the best archetype to go for? Stealth/Natural and Ranged Attack is what I'd like to go for, hence my question above.
    That's what I've been playing myself, minus the natural attacks, and it works quite well for me. I haven't playtested exstensively as of yet but the archetype has held up pretty well, though predatory obfuscation was definitely a godsend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonwolf727 View Post
    That's what I've been playing myself, minus the natural attacks, and it works quite well for me. I haven't playtested exstensively as of yet but the archetype has held up pretty well, though predatory obfuscation was definitely a godsend.
    The first thing I thought when looking at this class was 'humanoid becoming a beast due to the Sealed Evil within'. Nice to know the stealthy predator thing I wanted to do held up well. :D I just like the idea of breath weapons as well. Any simple way to get a breath weapon without multiclassing? A feat, maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    The first thing I thought when looking at this class was 'humanoid becoming a beast due to the Sealed Evil within'. Nice to know the stealthy predator thing I wanted to do held up well. :D I just like the idea of breath weapons as well. Any simple way to get a breath weapon without multiclassing? A feat, maybe?
    Not any feats that I know of but you can always become a Dragonborn of Bahamut if that doesn't mess with your concept too much. Alternatively, although you mentioned it yourself, you can always take a level in another class to gain a breath weapon. I honestly don't know though, I'm not the most familiar with breath weapons and I'm pretty sure that most of them scale with Class Level rather than Character Level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regitnui View Post
    The first thing I thought when looking at this class was 'humanoid becoming a beast due to the Sealed Evil within'. Nice to know the stealthy predator thing I wanted to do held up well. :D I just like the idea of breath weapons as well. Any simple way to get a breath weapon without multiclassing? A feat, maybe?
    Do you care about mechanical baggage? Because I pretty much just described the ranged attack as a breath weapon (compare to the Unholy Ravager of Tiamat's Profane Blast ability) and left it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vasharanpaladin View Post
    Do you care about mechanical baggage? Because I pretty much just described the ranged attack as a breath weapon (compare to the Unholy Ravager of Tiamat's Profane Blast ability) and left it at that.
    Sounds like an idea... I can picture breathing the effect onto your claws and swinging them around until it dissipates (After like one attack, but hey.)
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    The image under harrowings is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just to Browse View Post
    The image under harrowings is dead.
    All of them except the first are. I wonder if we can find them again...
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