OOTS #808 - The Discussion Thread

[zimmerwald1915]

I hope so, but it seems unlikley as they already have a rouge.

All that Aton-brand cosmetic and not one container of rouge?

[Gift Jeraff]

I hope so, but it seems unlikley as they already have a rouge.

He's only part rogue. Heck, the Linear Guild technically has 3 rogues at the moment (Nale, Sabine, and Yukyuk), but for Nale and Yukyuk it seems to just be a dip.

Though I highly doubt Yukyuk will replace Belkar.

One thing I have found odd is that the ranger uses daggers, and the rogue uses a bow. shouldn't that be the other way around? Not that it really matters, if you can still sneak attack with a bow. I can see Belkar preferring to be in his victim's face, so he goes with knives.

In 3.5 D&D, rangers can either specialize in dual wielding or bows, so there's nothing odd about Belkar's choice, and rogues don't have any leaning towards daggers AFAIK. (I'm guessing video games are the reason people always ask this question about Haley and Belkar.)

[Shoelessgdowar]

I hope so, but it seems unlikley as they already have a rougue.

Fixed the spelling :)

Well, while I'd prefer Belkar to stick around, technically Yukyuk is a Ranger/Rogue just as Thog is a Barbarian/Fighter, Belkar is a Ranger/Barbarian, Elan is a Bard/Dashing Swordsman, and Nale is a Fighter/Rogue/Sorcerer.

In 3.5 D&D, rangers can either specialize in dual wielding or bows, so there's nothing odd about Belkar's choice, and rogues don't have any leaning towards daggers AFAIK. (I'm guessing video games are the reason people always ask this question about Haley and Belkar.)

WoW does popularize the Rogue with dual daggers, but Rogue with daggers for backstab bonuses has been around since 1st edition, so associating them is partly valid. Meanwhile classically the Elven Ranger has always been an archer and classically Rangers were archers in earlier editions of D&D, but they evolved over time due to trying to make both classes more versatile and updating them to not be lesser classes, as both used to be considered Secondary Classes to the Fighter (Combat), Wizard/Sorcerer (Spellcasting), Priest (Healer), and worse yet the Overpowered Paladin (Combat/Healer with free mount and magic weapon and power to defeat undead, among other things)

[WickedWizard17]

"Alas, poor YikYik, you slew him, Horatio!"

HA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Loved that so much . . .

[Magnera]

So has anyone addresed the issue of Thog possibly have more than one rage per day? Although his reaction to his rage ending shows that he might have used these all during his time rageing

[zimmerwald1915]

So has anyone addresed the issue of Thog possibly have more than one rage per day? Although his reaction to his rage ending shows that he might have used these all during his time rageing

He probably has three or four rages per day, but he can only rage once per encounter.

[Magnera]

Ah, I see. So does the falling of the ceiling end the encounter? Could he rage again in a later point of time, like 3 rounds after him being crushed? I guess that depends on the Giant.

[ORione]

Ah, I see. So does the falling of the ceiling end the encounter? Could he rage again in a later point of time, like 3 rounds after him being crushed? I guess that depends on the Giant.

Thog vs. Roy is over, so now it's Thog vs Collapsed Ceiling?

[whitelaughter]

True, but Thog IS a fan favorite. If Thog is too die tarquin would want done in an epic fashion to be seen by all... And while being buried and crushed by an entire section of the stadium is a more epic way to go than the way most fights go, the people may not have really SEEN him get buried... they saw the two crash through the floor and then a minute later saw that whole section collapse...

So ya, in short, whether or not Tarquin lets Thog live or die depends on if the crowd is pleased with this as his end.

This is what divinations and illusions are for: it would be cheaper and more fun to 'show' the crowd what happened.

My guess is, Thog lives *unless* Nale dies. Nale dying is unlikely; his presence (and Elan not telling Tarquin) should get Tarquin and Malak convined that the twins are scheming together against the Kingdom of Blood.

(oh, for whoever was asking who's the 3rd: Thog, X and Yukyuk have all been removed from the action, leaving Sabine and Nale as the only enemy combatants on the field).

[ArqArturo]

Architecture! :D

[Holy_Knight]

Most heartily concurred. All the same, it's a bit of an action hero cheesy moment to say something to your downed opponent. Y'know, the whole "hasta la vista, baby" thing. It's like the opposite of villain monologuing.

"Now THAT'S what I call sorted!"

[Raistlin82]

I seriously doubt Thog is gone.

However, if he did, he died defending the honour of puppies from that evil, evil man. THOG IS A TRAGIC HERO.

Next up: Roy (black warrior man, and evil-aligned enemy of puppies) vs Amun-Zora (black warrior woman, good-aligned).

[kinch]

A worthy strip for Thog to die in.

[Draezeth]

Nooooo! Not Thog!

[BriarHobbit]

Wow, this strip was good. Roy gets the civilians to safety and then uses his knowledge of architecture to win the fight. Just awesome!

[Gift Jeraff]

It took me a while to get the point of the Zz'dtri panel. Roy said he was going to prolong the fight in order to keep Tarquin distracted from the Linear Guild, and now he thinks they were defeated so he can end his fight with Thog.

Considering he was about to escape the arena in #798, I wonder if he's still going to take that job offer from Tarquin.

[OrsonBerserk]

Is there a reason why Roy taunted Thog to charge? More damage to break the columns?

[Cranica]

It took me a while to get the point of the Zz'dtri panel. Roy said he was going to prolong the fight in order to keep Tarquin distracted from the Linear Guild, and now he thinks they were defeated so he can end his fight with Thog.

Considering he was about to escape the arena in #798, I wonder if he's still going to take that job offer from Tarquin.

Oooo, I was wondering about that. There's a catch, though - Zz'dtri is in custody now; if Tarquin knows he's with Nale, he can squeeze that information out of the drow.

[Doug Lampert]

Is there a reason why Roy taunted Thog to charge? More damage to break the columns?

That seems to be the main reason. I also think he was making sure Thog wouldn't notice Z getting dragged off.

[SoC175]

808 love!

Obviously Thog's alive, also couldn't you have done the whole call them to attack then dodge OUT of the way not just let'em hit you Roy?

If it were that easy to dodge out of Thog's attacks Roy wouldn't look so bad. Thog is a very skilled combatant who has no trouble to hit what he aims at

[Klorox]

Is there a reason why Roy taunted Thog to charge? More damage to break the columns?

Yes.

And if Thogs DR goes for each rock, there's no way he's dead.

[rbetieh]

It took me a while to get the point of the Zz'dtri panel. Roy said he was going to prolong the fight in order to keep Tarquin distracted from the Linear Guild, and now he thinks they were defeated so he can end his fight with Thog.

Considering he was about to escape the arena in #798, I wonder if he's still going to take that job offer from Tarquin.

If Roy gets his crown back and grows a mohawk, he could start working for Tarquin (see: last season of "The A Team")

[Detrinex]

Maybe Thog didn't die. As Nale said, if you aren't seen dying on-screen, then you're not dead. We saw Thog in the same panel as a huge pile of rubble, but if his eyes didn't go X, which we didn't see, he could very well escape.

[super dark33]

how escape?
and DR isnt applied for each stone.
i think its a d6 per pound or somthing.
and he extracts his DR from the colletreal damage so...
a low chance to survive!

[UrsielHauke]

Fantastic strip! It is unique, it is original, it is utterly genius! That is exactly how one uses their intelligence in a fight!

[SoC175]

Yes.

Actually charge doesn't increase damage, it increases accuracy, but it's unlikely that Thog would had any trouble hitting the columns anyway.

[J's]

"Now THAT'S what I call sorted!"

You and the Pratchett quotes. *Giggles*

Though I will say that that was never said, after all Moist wasn't a hero.

[Peldor]

Quite possibly my favorite comic of them all. Bravo!

Good enough to get me to post again after many years!

[MoonCat]

Whoooooooooooa

You're like, old. Like, old enough to have talked to the Giant himself before he nearly pulled an internet Bill Waterson (although that is changing a bit lately).

I bow down to you in respect. and then proceed to be so reverent I chase you away again.

[GKBeetle]

New comic is up.

Sorry for the extra long delay on this one, the extra pages took a long time.

You are apologizing for this comic? Are you kidding me? Absolutely no reason to apologize for genius like this.

Bravo, Giant!