Pokémon XII: Truth of the Ideal Thread

[AtlanteanTroll]

I wonder if they really are direct sequels anyway. If they are, I wonder if you get to continue with the current Gen. 5 characters, or if this would be set in the future.

If it's in the future, maybe the previous player characters can finally get some recognition for their accomplishments.

Gen II was a direct sequel to Gen I, wasn't it? And there's a 3 years difference there ... Who knows.

[tgva8889]

But Gen II wasn't called "Pokemon Blue and Red 2." The games were entirely different.

[boj0]

double you tee eff
I don't even know what to think right now...
Grey was what I was expecting, the possibility of Ruby/Sapphire remakes was not out of the question,
But actual NUMBERED SEQUELS?
I need to sit down...

[Turalisj]

Hmmm... Honestly? I don't really care that they are adding numbers to the end. What else would they call them? Pokemon Ebon Black and Ivory White?

edit: I think I like the fact that I don't need to go out and buy a 3DS to play them a lot better, since I don't have the money for that.

[drew2u]

But Gen II wasn't called "Pokemon Blue and Red 2." The games were entirely different.

They were going to be called "Pocket Monsters 2" until the name was changed to Gold/Silver. So yes, they were going to be '2'.

Does anyone else get a bad chimera/golem feel from the new forms of kyurem?

[tgva8889]

"going to be" and "are" are two entirely different things in my mind. Honestly, I don't care, but this is a bit unprecedented, as far as existing games go.

[Turalisj]

Checking Serebii, it looks like the Arceus event is going to go on until May 1st.

I think I will end up resetting.... Here's the mons I'm looking at saving:

Tornadus, Archeops, Deino, Victini, Volcarona, and Serperior. Except for the two legendaries, you can keep most of them as long as I can get an egg from them....

[tonberrian]

So what was the website about Pokemon Gray for?

[OracleofWuffing]

Oh, numbered sequels.

Interesting.

*Resumes playing Pokemon TCG 2* *In before someone says that's not a main series game and doesn't count.* *Also in before Pokemon Stadium 2 and similar things being said about that.*

Let's see, I asked for no Zubats and I got reasonable close to that request being granted, and I asked for a Fire/Electric type with Levitate and kinda got that at a possibly pyrhic cost, so... Okay, kill N off in an excruciatingly horribly terrible horrible painful and horrible way- permanently- at the start of the game, and I'll buy both versions this time around.

If Cheren dies in the process, I would do a dance, too.

E: Also, yeah, we could still use an Electric/Bug type. 'Cause, you know, we did not get one this generation. LA LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING.

So what was the website about Pokemon Grey for?

Trolling is the new Publicity.

[tgva8889]

Hmm. Well, *spoilers*

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...we did hear that N went to some other region and was seen with a Dragon-type Pokemon after capturing all the remaining Sages of Team Plasma. Wonder what that could possibly mean. Perhaps he'll be doing something completely different in the sequels...

By the way, I wonder, would a Bug-type team be effective? Scizor is pretty much the best Pokemon in OU and Volcarona is a beast, but you're so Stealth Rock-weak it's ridiculous, and Forretress the only Bug-type Spinner that doesn't make me cry.

Edit: Huh. Serebii says there's a Pikachu with Extremespeed. That might actually be usable. In theory.

[The Dark Fiddler]

*Resumes playing Pokemon TCG 2* *In before someone says that's not a main series game and doesn't count.* *Also in before Pokemon Stadium 2 and similar things being said about that.*

You forgot somebody mentioning that it was never translated

But I still hold out hope they'll make a third one...

[AtlanteanTroll]

But I still hold out hope they'll make a third one...

Third ... what? TCG or Stadium?

[NineThePuma]

Why is there an "or" in your statement?

[AtlanteanTroll]

"But I still hold out hope they'll make a third one..."

That's why.

[Othesemo]

Hey, I have a question. I'm trying to work through the Battle Institute in Black, and I've met with... mixed results (apparently I'm in both novice and hyper rank...). Anyways, I was wondering if I could get any help with movesets/which three pokemon I should try to use to get through it with the highest score. Here's my current team-

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Klinklang@Leftovers
Shift Gear
Volt Switch
Gear Grind
Return

Carracosta@Rocky Helmet
Smack Down
Bulldoze
Waterfall
Focus Blast

Mandibuzz@BlackGlasses
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse
Air Slash
Fly

Rapidash@Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Wild Charge
Solar Beam
Flare Blitz

Snorlax@Leftovers
Body Slam
Earthquake
Crunch
Giga Impact

Serperior@Miracle Seed
Dragon Tail
Return
Coil
Leaf Blade

Thus far I've been opening with Klinklang and just volt-switching based on what my opponent has, but it's been a bit iffy. Any help would be appreciated.

[drew2u]

RE: B2W2
You know you also thought of this.

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[The Dark Fiddler]

Third ... what? TCG or Stadium?

Yes.

RE: B2W2
You know you also thought of this.

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Maybe if they'd dub it in English already I would have

[Geno9999]

You forgot somebody mentioning that it was never translated

But I still hold out hope they'll make a third one...

They did make a third one. It's called Pokemon Colosseum.

Also, looking it up on Bulbapedia, we actually got Japan's Pokemon Stadium 2. The first only had 42 pokemon, most of which are final evolutions of their lines (i.e., only Charizard instead of Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard.) with some exceptions.

[Prime32]

RE: B2W2
You know you also thought of this.

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Victini! Golett! Drilbur! PokéXros!
Victini X3!

Starmie! Staryus! PokéXros!
Victini X4!

Victini X4! Latios! PokéXros!
Victini X5!

[Talvereaux]

Hey, I have a question. I'm trying to work through the Battle Institute in Black, and I've met with... mixed results (apparently I'm in both novice and hyper rank...). Anyways, I was wondering if I could get any help with movesets/which three pokemon I should try to use to get through it with the highest score. Here's my current team-

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Klinklang@Leftovers
Shift Gear
Volt Switch
Gear Grind
Return

Carracosta@Rocky Helmet
Smack Down
Bulldoze
Waterfall
Focus Blast

Mandibuzz@BlackGlasses
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse
Air Slash
Fly

Rapidash@Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Wild Charge
Solar Beam
Flare Blitz

Snorlax@Leftovers
Body Slam
Earthquake
Crunch
Giga Impact

Serperior@Miracle Seed
Dragon Tail
Return
Coil
Leaf Blade

Thus far I've been opening with Klinklang and just volt-switching based on what my opponent has, but it's been a bit iffy. Any help would be appreciated.

I notice you don't have natures or EVs listed.

Postgame challenges along the lines of the institute are difficult, and even moreso if you don't optimize your Pokemon's stats. You'll have a very hard time even with a fantastic lineup of species and movepools if your Pokemon aren't specifically trained in a way that would influence their stats perfectly.

The first post in this thread has a few of the many online references for understanding effort values (point buys), inherited values (rolled stats), and natures (a bit of both). I personally suggest starting with one at a time, seeing as all the details of training and breeding are a lot to take in in one sitting. Whether you decide to pursue the dark path of PokeMinmaxing or not, I wish you the best of luck! :)

[Qwertystop]

How have I never heard of the Battle Institute before? What and where is it?

[Othesemo]

It's in Nimbasa City, right next to the pokemon center. Basically, you fight 5 progressively harder 3v3 battles, then get a grade based on (among other things) how many you won. Here's a link.

[Qwertystop]

It's in Nimbasa City, right next to the pokemon center. Basically, you fight 5 progressively harder 3v3 battles, then get a grade based on (among other things) how many you won. Here's a link.

HOW DID I MISS THAT?

[boj0]

You what's really awesome? Baton Passing +6 Attack and +3 Speed to a Haxorus
Sturdy? Mold Breaker
Focus Sash? Dual Chop
Priority? Unless you have a Banded Weavile, I'm not sweating (Oh wait, that doesn't OHKO)
Resist Dragon? You are a Steel type, enjoy Earthquake.
Skarmory? After Rocks it is ~43% chance to OHKO, so you better not rely on a switch-in; and then you have my Starmie to deal with

[tgva8889]

HOW DID I MISS THAT?

After clicking that link, I thought the same thing. It was awesome.

[OracleofWuffing]

Hey guys, you wanna know what the best part about Pokemon Black and White 2 is? I hear they're going to give Flareon Fire Pledge! [/OBVIOUSLY FAKE RUMOR]

[tgva8889]

Maybe that would mean something if Fire Pledge became a physical attack. With 120 base power. That dealt recoil damage to Flareon. And had a burn chance. So basically if it were Flare Blitz.

[ThePhantom]

Hello, I'm trying to figure out a moveset for a slaking. Can I get a little help with this?

[tonberrian]

Hello, I'm trying to figure out a moveset for a slaking. Can I get a little help with this?

What can you use to tap Cofagrigus? [/nothelpful]

[tgva8889]

Competitive or just for beating the game, and what generation?

First, get that guy a Choice Band. It's pretty much the reason you use him. Then, depending on generation, teach him Hyper Beam (Gen 3) or Giga Impact (Gen 4 or 5). After that, teach him various physical moves of varying types. Learn how to use prediction, and switch often.