Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Chat Thread

[Stake A Vamp]

Lol, couldn't help but sing this in the tune of Firefly :p

Take the blood, of the gold, the blue red or the white so booold
I don't care, I don't fear thee, you can't take my soul from me.

what do you think I was listening to when i wrote that (actually it was the soundtrack to Dr. Horrible, but i was thinking of the Ballad Of Serenity)

[Tanuki Tales]

To answer the re-make questions:

You can re-imagine existing material, using it as inspiration for your entry, but you cannot do a "fix" or update something for Pathfinder.

[Tanuki Tales]

Since there's no time like the present, why not start deciding on next month's contest theme?

And since we have new folks hanging around and had new trophies, I'll also be doing this bit a little different:

• Each person may suggest one contest theme for the next month. This continues until we have 16 theme concepts or until all active posters have given one. In the case of the latter occurring, each person may then suggest an additional 2 themes until we get to the 16 mark.
• You all will go through four rounds of voting, having a number of votes equal to half the amount of concepts in that round (So 8, 4, 2 and 1). You cannot cast more than 1 vote for 1 concept.
• The last concept standing is the theme for next month's contest.
• You may suggest any theme that comes to mind, even previous concepts that didn't win their month's selection process, but you cannot suggest a theme previously done. Only June's theme may be a previously completed contest's theme.
• As always, I will break any and all ties.

[Benly]

How about "The Wasteland" as a theme?

[Tanuki Tales]

How about "The Wasteland" as a theme?

And what would the theme entail exactly? Literal wastelands, some Mad Max thing or...?

[malonkey1]

Atavism: Themed around animalistic humanoids, be they lycanthropes, hybrids, or some other man-turned-beast.

[Razanir]

And what would the theme entail exactly? Literal wastelands, some Mad Max thing or...?

Aiel! I could make them into either a race or a Barbarian variant. (Sorry about all the WoT stuff. I'm reading through them for the first time)

My nomination: The Monomyth. Also known as the Hero's Journey, it's the path that many adventurers follow. Everywhere from the Original Trilogy of Star Wars, to Lord of the Rings, and even to Shrek, its passive influence permeates into many famous heroes' lives.

EDIT: And does anyone have advice for making Archetypes? I really want to include Lews Therin, but the more I think about it, the stranger it seems for a PrC feature. And since I like most of the Monk abilities, I'll probably just make the Dragon Warrior a Monk archetype

[gr8artist]

My submission will be A Thousand Words, themed around comics, manga, and graphic novels.

My submission will be some variant of monk. I'm working on a alternate class for monk (think ninja to the rogue) that will swap most of the monk's features out for more aggressive dragonny... stuff.
What I know so far...
No Wis to AC, it gets light armor prof. instead, and may use all of its abilities while wearing wearing light armor. Uses Cha for Ki. Gains proficiency with unarmed strikes.
No untyped AC bonus, instead gets elemental damage with unarmed and natural strikes.
No disease immunity, but gets a Shield bonus to AC when wearing gauntlets and/or bracers made from leather or dragonhide. Adds gauntlet/cestus base damage to his unarmed strikes (so 1d3 gauntlet w/ 1d6 UaS and 14 Str would be 1d6+1d3+2 damage)
Slower fast movement, and screw slow fall.
No Tongue of the Sun and Moon, it gets Tongue of the Dragon instead (breath attack via ki)
No self healing, gets natural armor via ki
And some more

[zhdarkstar]

I'm going to suggest That's All Folks again for some cartoon physics nonsense. Felix the Cat as an Alchemist archetype, maybe? Although I would personally handle creating a racial archetype for anthropomorphic duck wizards.

[Benly]

And what would the theme entail exactly? Literal wastelands, some Mad Max thing or...?

Sure, any of those. Literal wastelands, metaphorical wastelands, the sky's the limit as long as your theme is the wasteland.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I'll submit one - Liberal Arts

Classes, monsters, and so on that are based around the arts - Artists, Musicians, Actors, Performers, Acrobats, Sciences and Writing. You can throw these ideas into the mix with other classes, like a reformat of the bard to incorporate the artistic or musical theme more, or have a class that crafts items, or a sculptor that makes "earth elementals". Perhaps its a caster that casts in prose, for an added bonus. Or a writer whose stories become reality. Anything goes!

[zhdarkstar]

I'll submit one - Liberal Arts

So this theme has no chance of using its class abilities to get a decent job? If this wins, I'm so making a class that has Underwater Basket Weaving as an ability.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

So this theme has no chance of using its class abilities to get a decent job? If this wins, I'm so making a class that has Underwater Basket Weaving as an ability.

Oh, that's awesome. I love it.

[SamBurke]

I'll go for "To Go Boldly" (Sci-Fi) and "Third Law" (MagiTech) again. Gotta see if my idea for these can FINALLY come out.

[Tanuki Tales]

I'll go for "To Go Boldly" (Sci-Fi) and "Third Law" (MagiTech) again. Gotta see if my idea for these can FINALLY come out.

You only get to suggest one at the beginning Sam until everyone has suggested one; so which would you like more?

[SamBurke]

You only get to suggest one at the beginning Sam until everyone has suggested one; so which would you like more?

Third Law.

Also, I don't think I'll be entering this time around, but, I will be critiquing!

[Tanuki Tales]

Alright, so this is the current list:


{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme
The Wasteland|Wasteland (either natural or artificial)
Atavism|Feral/Bestial/Devolved/etc. Humanoids
The Monomyth|The "Hero's Journey" archetype
A Thousand Words|Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels in general
That's All Folks!|Cartoon Physics
Liberal Arts|The Arts
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general

[/table]

[Tanuki Tales]

Want to spit ball something for a second:

Since mention was made about one month's contest being themed around building an encounter (which if I can get five people to get behind this, I'll let it get entered for voting from that point onward) and we've done one month where we did a special entry type for races, what about the concept of building a NPC using just material that's been submitted to this contest previously?

[Razanir]

Want to spit ball something for a second:

Since mention was made about one month's contest being themed around building an encounter (which if I can get five people to get behind this, I'll let it get entered for voting from that point onward) and we've done one month where we did a special entry type for races, what about the concept of building a NPC using just material that's been submitted to this contest previously?

I could promote an elf to Santa Claus! YES. That would most certainly be a fun theme.

[Tanuki Tales]

I could promote an elf to Santa Claus! YES. That would most certainly be a fun theme.

Alrighty.

Same deal as with the Encounter idea and I'll lay down precedent for this now:

• Any paradigm for a contest that has not yet been attempted in the past may be suggested and included from that point onwards as part of the Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition as long as four other interested parties voice that they are in favor of its inclusion.

In plain English: You can suggest contest stuff we haven't done yet that's different from the normal archetype/base class/monster/prestige class/race/template set up. But you need to have four other folks say they want to do it and it still needs to win the theme voting period. And once one more type gets ratified in this way, I'll be changing how the theme voting for each month works so that you always need to specify what set up you want to use for that theme.

That way we could do Halloween inspired races, Christmas Encounters or New Year's NPCs.

[gr8artist]

So, from now on, we'll all be making the same type of entry? All monsters, or all base classes?

[Tanuki Tales]

So, from now on, we'll all be making the same type of entry? All monsters, or all base classes?

No. It means when we have a third type of set up suggested, you'll need to specify which set up your suggested theme is using. So far we have the standard one (archetype/base class/monster/prestige class/race/template) and race-centric (see A Day in the Life).

[Dark.Revenant]

I see a conspicuous lack of Wilder prestige classes. And a conspicuous lack of a Dragon Disciple equivalent for psionics.

So I killed two birds with one stone: Dragonmind.

(Entry assumes that Psionics Unleashed (or Ultimate Psionics) is being used)

[Tanuki Tales]

And I found my ruling on 3rd party material and this contest and I'll stick to it:

As long as it's on either PSRD, it's allowable for this contest.

[Benly]

I see a conspicuous lack of Wilder prestige classes. And a conspicuous lack of a Dragon Disciple equivalent for psionics.

So I killed two birds with one stone: Dragonmind.

(Entry assumes that Psionics Unleashed (or Ultimate Psionics) is being used)

I like the class on the whole. Dragon Body Surge needs a duration, and the "non-dragon" requirement leads to oddities like half-dragons being disqualified from the dragon-themed class for being too draconic.

[malonkey1]

I like the class on the whole. Dragon Body Surge needs a duration, and the "non-dragon" requirement leads to oddities like half-dragons being disqualified from the dragon-themed class for being too draconic.

Well, if I read the fluff right, it's supposed to be a normal creature tapping psychic dragon heritage. If you are a psychic dragon, then tapping your heritage seems a bit redundant, dunnit?

[Dark.Revenant]

Whoops, derp, I forgot to mention that it lasts for 1 round. Fixed that.

Anyway the PrC is for people who are completely unrelated to dragons. You are NOT tapping into heritage; you're enraptured with dragons to the point where "mind over body" comes into effect. Psionics is weird like that.

[malonkey1]

Whoops, derp, I forgot to mention that it lasts for 1 round. Fixed that.

Anyway the PrC is for people who are completely unrelated to dragons. You are NOT tapping into heritage; you're enraptured with dragons to the point where "mind over body" comes into effect. Psionics is weird like that.

Oh, alright. That actually makes even more sense.

[SamBurke]

I fully support an Encounter-specific or NPC-specific contest.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I support it, but I'm kind of confused by it as is.