LGBTAitP Part 23: Et tu, ~Bianca?

[Anethiel]

So, last evening I attended a small high school reunion. Obviously our relationship status was one of the discussed arguments, and I felt really weird about referencing my boyfriend. So I didn't.

Maybe it was because I was very much in denial when in high school, and now I regret deeply that period of my life; or maybe it was because, being - as I like to say - 100% out, it's been a long time since my last "proper" coming out.

Anyway, now I'm ashamed of my behavior and I feel bad for "betraying" my identity. I wish June would come up earlier, so I can go to the Pride and make up for this fault of mine.

After this minor venting, we return to our previous discussion about... placenta?!? What the?

[Arachu]

So, last evening I attended a small high school reunion. Obviously our relationship status was one of the discussed arguments, and I felt really weird about referencing my boyfriend. So I didn't.

Maybe it was because I was very much in denial when in high school, and now I regret deeply that period of my life; or maybe it was because, being - as I like to say - 100% out, it's been a long time since my last "proper" coming out.

Anyway, now I'm ashamed of my behavior and I feel bad for "betraying" my identity. I wish June would come up earlier, so I can go to the Pride and make up for this fault of mine.

After this minor venting, we return to our previous discussion about... placenta?!? What the?

Well, it's more about the likelihood of a placenta forming in a transplanted uterus (which in this case would be in a MtF)... It's closer to topic than it sounds.

Right, though *so many hugs*


~Bianca

[noparlpf]

Could MRIs see that? I wonder if they could make a way to research brains without needing the patient to be deceased. ^_^

The book I'm reading about human romantic love used fMRI to scan blood flow throughout the brain, which is a decent indicator of what's going on in the brain in terms of hormones and whatnot.

That trans woman I told you about. I'm trying to get her to come here so she can meet other LGBTA people in a friendly environment. So if she decides to pop in y'all be nice to her, ok?

Be nice to a new person? Us? You must be mad. Of course we have to haze the new girl. (By which I mean introduce her to our six-armed friends...and have them hug the heck out her.)

Oh, well, just let me wash this egg off of my face. Guess I just figured it would be worse from the general tone of the whole thing.

Well, in English it is kind of a slur.

[Lix Lorn]

The placenta is partly formed from the uterus but most of it comes from the baby. So that wouldn't be a problem. You'd have to have a modified SRS, because you want somewhere for uterine wall to exit when you menstruate. Yes, the joys of PMS would now be available for trans women.

Yeaaaah... you realise that's actually a twisted plus in my book, right?

[Arachu]

Yeaaaah... you realise that's actually a twisted plus in my book, right?

*Hugs* :<


~Bianca

[SiuiS]

It's so true! Tea is hospitality. But that doesn't mean we don't have time to also drink a lot of alcohol.

Plus you've got the good stuff; quality over quantity, aye?

On the topic of Ireland, we don't go in for lush jungles. More like little copses of trees. Small hills, fields, some ... bigger fields. Old fields that aren't farmed anymore. Lone trees. Limestone. I suppose you could go out and deliberately ignore any houses or people and determinedly starve yourself to death, but it'd be really likely, as you wither away under the careless eye of some sheep that a farmer would come up to you and be all "Howreya? All right there? Starving yourself, is it? Sure it's always drama with the tourists. Givus a shout if you want a cup of tea while you're at it, you mad bastard."

I'm seeing a cartoon where a man in a ragged pith helmet and such marveling at how lifelike his hallucinations are after eating that strange flower. And a farmer trying to get the silly bloke to stop feelin' on his sheep.

I like you, Nope, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you're only talking about England, Wales, Scotland or Norn Ireland. Ireland, the Republic of, is not a part of the UK.

Trying to suds out if you were in the republic of or northern Ireland is actually why I asked you about your currency.

Oddly, the answer should be obvious and I'm not sure I could even tell from currency. What a difference a full night's sleep makes.

My girlfriend's a Fine Arts student, and we've just come up with an awesome idea. Over summer, she'd like to use me as a model to make a project on gender and gender expression!

Dunno if this is going to happen or not, but it sounds like fun if it does!

Cool! Can we get a link if/when this happens?

Yeaaaah... you realise that's actually a twisted plus in my book, right?

Didn't we have a link a while back pointing out that PMS is a fallacy?
But yeah, I feel ya there. It's like being told a teaching position is a bad job because all that reading would give you eye strain :D
Or any other instance of listing the reason you want something as a downside.

[golentan]

Yeaaaah... you realise that's actually a twisted plus in my book, right?

That... um... yeah...

In other news... I'm in a weird position. I'm being hit on by a guy. But I'd kind of like to have a successful sexual experience with someone without a penis, just once, before starting something new with a male.

Course, that would probably require me to be proactive. And I'm kind of bad at that.

[Qaera]

That... um... yeah...

In other news... I'm in a weird position. I'm being hit on by a guy. But I'd kind of like to have a successful sexual experience with someone without a penis, just once, before starting something new with a male.

Course, that would probably require me to be proactive. And I'm kind of bad at that.

Isn't your girlfriend MtF? I know more than a couple motifs, and the range of genital dysphoria varies wildly...

~ ♅

[golentan]

Isn't your girlfriend MtF? I know more than a couple motifs, and the range of genital dysphoria varies wildly...

~ ♅

She is male to female, yes. I'm not following your logic in asking.

[Mina Kobold]

England, Scotland and Wales form Great Britain. Add Northern Ireland and you get the United Kingdom. Then add the rest of Ireland and all the little islands and such and you get the British Isles.

I know, I was just being silly and wondering why they need to specify that it is Great Britain, rather than merely Britain. I presume it is historical (Britannia was the Roman name for the province south of Scotland, derived from the Hellenic name for the British Isles, Brettanai), but I only have Wikipedia as a source at the moment.

Sorry if I appeared ignorant. I tend to be poor at articulating well. ^_^'

About the uterus thingy we aren't that far away from being able to clone organs so I wouldn't be surprised that if shortly after the uterus transplanty and the sperm to eggs thingy are ready to be used we would be able to just make a new uterus.

According to the Illustrated Science magazine (poor source, I know) we already have cloned organs, but it is not yet at the stage where it could be done in large numbers.

Know if there is any truth to that or if it is just a stealthy science fiction story?

The placenta is partly formed from the uterus but most of it comes from the baby. So that wouldn't be a problem. You'd have to have a modified SRS, because you want somewhere for uterine wall to exit when you menstruate. Yes, the joys of PMS would now be available for trans women.

I would have mentioned the linked article as well, but I have no clue whether their sources are accurate.

Obviously this can only be solved by infiltrating the Cracked Headquarters, finding their secret knowledge and use it to infiltrate the base of Science! :3

[Heliomance]

Cool! Can we get a link if/when this happens?

Sure! I was planning on it anyway.

[Mono Vertigo]

The placenta is partly formed from the uterus but most of it comes from the baby. So that wouldn't be a problem. You'd have to have a modified SRS, because you want somewhere for uterine wall to exit when you menstruate. Yes, the joys of PMS would now be available for trans women.

But who would want to experience PMS anyway?
I can't wait to see what science will achieve next. Medical achievements are so fascinating.

Disclaimer: sorry if any of you feel that first comment is insensitive. I just think that, unless it accompanies a desired fertility (and even then), PMS SUCKS. Bleeding every month with a chance of PAIN and unfunny side-effects is not cool.

[KenderWizard]

It's probably more likely to be pictsies than pixies.

PUN! (It's early.)

That trans woman I told you about. I'm trying to get her to come here so she can meet other LGBTA people in a friendly environment. So if she decides to pop in y'all be nice to her, ok?

Nice? But that's so unlike us! *pout*

(Is terrible with human anatomy)

Is that not a part of the uterus? If not, I'd assume it's a part of the transplant itself. The woman the surgery was performed on didn't have a placenta, either.

It only grows when you're making a baby, but it is attached to the baby, so I imagine it wouldn't be a problem once everything else was going fine.

The placenta is partly formed from the uterus but most of it comes from the baby. So that wouldn't be a problem. You'd have to have a modified SRS, because you want somewhere for uterine wall to exit when you menstruate. Yes, the joys of PMS would now be available for trans women.

It's possible you wouldn't menstruate without taking hormones, but I suppose it's likely you would be taking hormones. And if you've got any chance of menstruating at all, you need a way for that stuff to get out of you. There's a thing that can happen where uterine lining can accidentally grow in the wrong place, like on the outside, or up in the fallopian tubes, and it causes infections if it can't get out.

Also, talking about PMS reminds me. "PMS" in the sense of "women go crazy and irrational - way more than usual amirite?! - around their period" isn't a real thing. I think it happens because it's much harder to put up with the s**t of some people when you've got the waves of stabbing agony plus random nausea plus constantly having to consider nearest bathroom, best bathroom, supplies, spare panties, and how to get home in an emergency if it looks like there was a party in your pants but actually the party was a gruesome murder. Sooooo.... I'm not as patient as I usually am during "that time of the month", if I'm having a bad day. But you know what, that's life. Sometimes, people have hard days, and no one says "Do you know, the other day, Jim had a raging fever and he snapped at me when I asked him to do my work as well as his. Must be his crazy hormones making him all irrational, best ignore what he says!"

This is something that's really annoying me, because my housemate (some of you may remember from the Firefly/"Now that's a rape culture!" story), whenever periods or anything related to them comes up (or even, last time, just cramps - I get cramps due to digestive problems too!) he always says "I was so lucky, my last girlfriend had the implant. That releases the hormones steadily, so there isn't a spike. And you know what that means! Way better for me. It's not fair on guys to have to deal with PMS." So angry!! Unfortunately, if I punched him in the face, that would just play into his constant "women are irrational and violent" song.

Plus you've got the good stuff; quality over quantity, aye?

Oh yes.

Trying to suds out if you were in the republic of or northern Ireland is actually why I asked you about your currency.

Oddly, the answer should be obvious and I'm not sure I could even tell from currency. What a difference a full night's sleep makes.

Strange! Generally, it's best to assume the republic if someone says "Ireland" because if they're from the North, they'll quite likely identify as either "Irish" or "British" or else not mind. And the ones who'll identify as "British" will say "Northern Ireland" or even "the UK". That's how I play it, anyway. Also, my location says "Dublin", so that's a fairly big giveaway!

[Asta Kask]

While PMS may be overdramatized in popular culture, there are women who are incapacitated a few days before menstruation. They can't do anything except lie in their room and cry, or something like that. Luckily, a small dose of SSRI just during this time will cause a dramatic improvement. Interestingly, this is the only case where serotonin-medicines work instantly - in all other cases it takes a few weeks.

[Mono Vertigo]

Like me. Well, I'm not that incapacitated, but there are times I am hardly able to function or think properly. I don't know what I would do without my handy monthly painkillers.
And yet I've met girls who didn't understand that and emphasized the "natural=good" part of PMS... *seething anger*
I feel like it's the wrong parts that are overdramatized. Hormones? Yes, they're involved, but it's not what turns some women into rabid monsters or agonizing trainwrecks (having been both, I feel these terms apply to me, yes). It's the pain. And occasionally, the utter annoyance of inadvertently staining clothes. If people understand prolonged pain is a huge factor in what makes Gregory House extremely cranky, they should be able to understand the same goes for many individuals every month.

[Reluctance]

PUN! (It's early.)

You're unfamiliar with Pratchett's stuff? That shocks me.

I have a feeling you'd be happiest starting with the Tiffany Aching stuff. It's young adult-y (even moreso than most of what he writes), but good young adult-y. Plus, it's where the pictsies are introduced.

Starts here.

[Asta Kask]

Like me. Well, I'm not that incapacitated, but there are times I am hardly able to function or think properly. I don't know what I would do without my handy monthly painkillers.
And yet I've met girls who didn't understand that and emphasized the "natural=good" part of PMS... *seething anger*
I feel like it's the wrong parts that are overdramatized. Hormones? Yes, they're involved, but it's not what turns some women into rabid monsters or agonizing trainwrecks (having been both, I feel these terms apply to me, yes). It's the pain. And occasionally, the utter annoyance of inadvertently staining clothes. If people understand prolonged pain is a huge factor in what makes Gregory House extremely cranky, they should be able to understand the same goes for many individuals every month.

No, in the cases I mentioned the pain plays no role; SSRI help, and SSRI have no painkilling ability. This is something else.

Also, Natalie of Sincerely Natalie Reed has had a hell of a month. She has been misgendered and mocked at McDonald's (and had to stand there and just take it), and then some [redacted] trans women heaped further abuse on her by mail. I don't know the details, but it was a lot about how she looked and ****. Please, go to her blog and show your support - she needs it right now.

[Heliomance]

My sister gets incredible nausea every month. She's on the most powerful anti-emetics the doctors will prescribe, and still tends to spend a couple of days throwing up.

[Asta Kask]

But it's natural vomiting! It comes with puppies and sunshine. Of course, the puppies smell like vomit, but you can't get everything.

[noparlpf]

Nice? But that's so unlike us! *pout*

Us, having similar responses? No way!

Also, talking about PMS reminds me. "PMS" in the sense of "women go crazy and irrational - way more than usual amirite?! - around their period" isn't a real thing. I think it happens because it's much harder to put up with the s**t of some people when you've got the waves of stabbing agony plus random nausea plus constantly having to consider nearest bathroom, best bathroom, supplies, spare panties, and how to get home in an emergency if it looks like there was a party in your pants but actually the party was a gruesome murder. Sooooo.... I'm not as patient as I usually am during "that time of the month", if I'm having a bad day. But you know what, that's life. Sometimes, people have hard days, and no one says "Do you know, the other day, Jim had a raging fever and he snapped at me when I asked him to do my work as well as his. Must be his crazy hormones making him all irrational, best ignore what he says!"

This is something that's really annoying me, because my housemate (some of you may remember from the Firefly/"Now that's a rape culture!" story), whenever periods or anything related to them comes up (or even, last time, just cramps - I get cramps due to digestive problems too!) he always says "I was so lucky, my last girlfriend had the implant. That releases the hormones steadily, so there isn't a spike. And you know what that means! Way better for me. It's not fair on guys to have to deal with PMS." So angry!! Unfortunately, if I punched him in the face, that would just play into his constant "women are irrational and violent" song.

I knew a girl in middle school who was a couple of years older than I who would get horrible cramps and nausea, spend half the day in the restroom, and then have to leave school early. Honestly I don't know why she came in on those days.
My ex would get kind of grouchy around her period, but that's probably due to cramps and pain.
And those are the only two girls whose periods I would notice. The former because her symptoms were so bad, and the latter because I'd have to be pretty obtuse and insensitive not to notice. So I'd say that in my experience women don't tend to act particularly irrational around their periods, because otherwise it would be more noticeable.
For me, I know when I get a nasty headache or acid stomach, I get short with people. Those are the two kinds of pain that I really can't stand at all.

No, in the cases I mentioned the pain plays no role; SSRI help, and SSRI have no painkilling ability. This is something else.

Also, Natalie of Sincerely Natalie Reed has had a hell of a month. She has been misgendered and mocked at McDonald's (and had to stand there and just take it), and then some [redacted] trans women heaped further abuse on her by mail. I don't know the details, but it was a lot about how she looked and ****. Please, go to her blog and show your support - she needs it right now.

Dang. That sounds pretty crappy.

[Asta Kask]

Dang. That sounds pretty crappy.

You can reed about her McDonald's experience here.

[Castaras]

RE: PMS.

Used to get it. Threw up once, and that was due to insane levels of pain that humans should not be allowed to endure. Used to get awful pain each month that sometimes paracetamol wouldn't do anything about.

All changed when I went on the combined pill. Now I get no negative effects, except the very occasional headache which I'm not sure is related to PMS or stress in general, and I have shorter periods that I know exactly when they're going to happen.

[noparlpf]

What do you all think are some of the effects of a language being inherently gendered, like the romance languages are?

[pffh]

What do you all think are some of the effects of a language being inherently gendered, like the romance languages are?

None beyond the fact that some words happen to be male, some female and some neither. What makes a word male or female is hardly related to men and women for example in Icelandic penis, breast, uterus, sword and ship are all neither male nor female while pants, computer, office, gun and helicopter are female and window, socks, car, knife and dress are male.

[Heliomance]

Thought you might enjoy this, Kender. And others interested in similar things, of course.

[Mono Vertigo]

Ah, gendered ads. They're so evil.
Like 99% of all other ads.
The people who come up with these marketing campaigns are overpaaaaaaaaaiiiiiid *shakes fist*

[pffh]

Thought you might enjoy this, Kender. And others interested in similar things, of course.

Is it bad that I was laughing the whole time while I read that?

Also it reminded me of a mitchell and webb sketch

[Triscuitable]

Kotaku covered and reviewed a familiar visual novel. That may brighten up your day.

Plus, tonight! Movie! Me+(Girlfriend?)friend!Woo!

[Mono Vertigo]

Kotaku covered and reviewed a familiar visual novel. That may brighten up your day.

Aww yeah! I finally started playing... because my boyfriend did and therefore reminded me of its existence. (Amusingly, safe one occasion, so far, I made the same dialogue choices as he did, we tend to be unconsciously synchronized when it comes to games.) So far, I think I'm with Rin. Somewhat. Maybe. Who can tell?

Plus, tonight! Movie! Me+(Girlfriend?)friend!Woo!

You go! Have a good time.
What kind of movie are you seeing?

[Arachu]

Obviously this can only be solved by infiltrating the Cracked Headquarters, finding their secret knowledge and use it to infiltrate the base of Science! :3

*Stretches her neck* Right, you're gonna want a rope, a space ship, three daVinci-pattern parachutes, a demon-eating kitten named Jiminald and the phone number of a world-class gerbil rancher~

This is something that's really annoying me, because my housemate (some of you may remember from the Firefly/"Now that's a rape culture!" story), whenever periods or anything related to them comes up (or even, last time, just cramps - I get cramps due to digestive problems too!) he always says "I was so lucky, my last girlfriend had the implant. That releases the hormones steadily, so there isn't a spike. And you know what that means! Way better for me. It's not fair on guys to have to deal with PMS." So angry!! Unfortunately, if I punched him in the face, that would just play into his constant "women are irrational and violent" song.

Well, it isn't fair that guys are fed that rot. It's a severe impediment to understanding the opposite sex (and their own, for that matter).

If it helps, I'd've gladly punched him for you if I were there~ *Hugs*

Thought you might enjoy this, Kender. And others interested in similar things, of course.

I hate male-gendered ads. So much.

Well, except for that one for those testosterone shots that's been on lately. I like to say "male" every time the doctor(?) does, only in my best femvoice.

("Starting in your early 30's, a man's-" "Male~" "testosterone can decrease by as much as [some percentage or another]..." ^_^)

Plus, tonight! Movie! Me+(Girlfriend?)friend!Woo!

Woo!


~Bianca