LGBTAitP Part 23: Et tu, ~Bianca?

[supernerd]

I don't know what either of those things mean.

I didn't even realize I was doing it. Have I done that before? How often do I do that? No wonder we run out so quickly (and I've only had, like, one cavity in my life despite terrible childhood hygiene).

yeah, I was trained too much in oral hygiene when I was a child.

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I wonder what semen will do in the case of oral hygiene...

Well, I guess you could say "no homo" but it wouldn't make too much sense.

I built your self-esteem?... I, I never thought I'd hear someone say that. Thanks.


~Bianca

Someone said I could, but then it provoked the whole, "I can't just take a break from being gay to say that comment." thing. So now I'm gonna start saying "no hetero" because I CAN say that and mean it.

[Heliomance]

From what I've gathered from you guys, equalism would be a far better name than feminism. Who's with me?

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From what I've gathered from you guys, equalism would be a far better name than feminism. Who's with me?

Yup agreed, signed and whatever else that I can do to approve this.

[blackfox]

A transdimensional warp opens and out steps...

...your Gender Identity twin!

This twin has the same gender identity that you have, but another kind of body. Women's twin has a male body and the other way around. So I would get a trans man. Genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. get a cis of whatever sex they were assigned at birth.

What do you see?

I am on the feminine side of gender-fluid, with a female body. This ends up meaning that I'm okay with having female bits, although occasionally I have various amounts of dysphoria about secondary sexual characteristics. I have no idea how I'd react to having male bits, although I imagine I'd also be relatively okay with it.

I'm imagining an effeminate/camp bisexual gender-fluid and possibly transsexual male-bodied person who is far less socially inhibited than I am, and so has even more of a reputation for being a snarky sonofabitch.

[Castaras]

EDIT: .....and the first person to mention the whole "chainmail bikini" thing is going to get a sharp poke from a pointy stick.

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[Qaera]

A transdimensional warp opens and out steps...

...your Gender Identity twin!

This twin has the same gender identity that you have, but another kind of body. Women's twin has a male body and the other way around. So I would get a trans man. Genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. get a cis of whatever sex they were assigned at birth.

What do you see?

You're kind of ignoring intersexed individuals, and missing the point of genderqueeriosity. :I

Bleh.
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I have/have had a couple of female friends who emphaticall NEVER WANT KIDS EW NO. And without fail every time it just makes me go WELL AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AND HERE YOU ARE THROWING IT AWAY.

...it upsets me.

Me too :c *hugs*

~ ♅

[Asta Kask]

Bleh.
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I have/have had a couple of female friends who emphaticall NEVER WANT KIDS EW NO. And without fail every time it just makes me go WELL AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AND HERE YOU ARE THROWING IT AWAY.

...it upsets me.

(This isn't a rant at you, kender, just it made me think of it. In fact, it's entirely possible I've mentioned this before...)

Would you have a uterus transplant if it meant you had to go on some serious immuno-suppressive therapy for the rest of your life?

[Glass Mouse]

You mean Cuanta Vida, maybe?

Hey, that was a a nice little read! Thanks!

A transdimensional warp opens and out steps...

...your Gender Identity twin!

This twin has the same gender identity that you have, but another kind of body. Women's twin has a male body and the other way around. So I would get a trans man. Genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. get a cis of whatever sex they were assigned at birth.

What do you see?

Ooh, interesting. I know you're mostly interested in trans* perspectives, but I'm bored, so nyah

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First and foremost, he's male. My gender identity is only fixed due to "path of least resistance", so male would be just as well as female.

He wears t-shirts and jeans, short uncombed hair, and with stubble more often than not. He's probably thinner, considering guy friends would drag him to the soccer court more often.
He's pretty confident and doesn't question his abilities as much as I do. But he's also much less socially aware, bordering on obnoxious.

He probably laments not being able to go crazy with clothes and behaviour once in a while (without weird glances), and he might even have feminist leanings... especially if he's allowed to keep my sexual orientation, in which case he would've ended up in this thread for sure.

He probably has more friends than I do, but he still rolls his eyes at stereotypically "guy" behavior. He might be confused about girls and not able to get a date to save his life.
I wonder if he studies something more science-y than I do... maybe physics or computer science. I really don't know if humans would be so fascinating for someone who isn't expected to pick up on all their weird cues.

So. I'd be a nerdy, slightly weird guy, but I'd adapt well.

*feminism*

Very interesting stuff. Thanks a lot for the explanation

From what I've gathered from you guys, equalism would be a far better name than feminism. Who's with me?

Hear, hear!
1) Feminism isn't just about women, but also about men and everything in between.
2) Many of these problems are not restricted to gender issues.

[Rawhide]

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Alternatively.

[Qaera]

From what I've gathered from you guys, equalism would be a far better name than feminism. Who's with me?

This already exists as Egalitarianism; "Equalism" is historically misleading in the context of civil rights. Of course, that would include those evil men's rights.

~ ♅

[KenderWizard]

Glass Mouse:
There are lots of good feminist sites. I like Feministe (already mentioned) and The Hathor Legacy, and I enjoy Jezebel like I enjoy crisps - kind of great, but kind of iffy, and sometimes there's a really bad one in the packet. I tend to skip around (I use stumbleupon and put in that I want to stumble through Feminism or Women's Issues and see what I get!) and find blogs I like.

Astrella's explanation of the waves is good. First wave is long in the past. Second wave is still around, it was important and full of good people doing their best, but imperfect like, y'know, humans are. I think people are a bit harsh on second wave. Okay, some people were/are blatantly transphobic, and race issues were just sort of white(!)washed away. But it's hard enough tackle one major society problem, and they were racist because they were in a racist society. Most social movements start with the most privileged of the minority group - the rich white women for feminism, the white men for gay rights, the cis straight men for black civil rights. Third wave is also not perfect, but intersectionality is huge and that's a great leap forward.

A transdimensional warp opens and out steps...

...your Gender Identity twin!

This twin has the same gender identity that you have, but another kind of body. Women's twin has a male body and the other way around. So I would get a trans man. Genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. get a cis of whatever sex they were assigned at birth.

What do you see?

Well... A trans woman, then. Four years out of small-town Catholic school? Well, I'm still getting over it, and I imagine it would have been even worse for her, in the boy's school instead. Hopefully doesn't struggle with feeling fat and ugly like I do, on top of the gender dysphoria. Very determined to fix the problem, probably already seeing a therapist since school (when I first started, although I stopped, she probably wouldn't have).

This very much, and that's the biggest problem I have with it being handled because assigned neutrality seems to be actually limiting people's expression. In my eyes the best way to deal with it is to let everyone express themselves in the way they want; don't limit that.

I'm curious though to what degree we pick up on mannerisms and preferences because they are deemed gender appropriate; I know I picked up several "female" mannerism from my mum when I was younger thinking back before sorta suppressing them. But this could just be me applying posterior knowledge to things.

I understand children pick up on gendered cues from very very young. I mean, some babies can start using simple signs to get what they want from just a few months old. Babies and toddlers are learning MACHINES. If anything about what you're doing suggests "this is what girls do" or "this is for boys", they will start to pick up on that.

Bleh.
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I have/have had a couple of female friends who emphaticall NEVER WANT KIDS EW NO. And without fail every time it just makes me go WELL AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AND HERE YOU ARE THROWING IT AWAY.

...it upsets me.

(This isn't a rant at you, kender, just it made me think of it. In fact, it's entirely possible I've mentioned this before...)

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I understand. It's the same for people who are infertile. I know I'm very luckily to have a (so far appearing) functioning uterus. (I'm actually really worried I'm infertile, but I know that's just a niggling worry for me while it's life and forever for other people, so I'm not being all woe-is-me about it, I just want to say that I have some understanding of how upsetting it would be because I know I would be very upset about it). Maybe it would help to think of them as having considered the choice and felt strongly about it and chose not to, rather than them just dismissing their choice? I dunno. Maybe you could become a pioneering uterus transplant surgeon?

From what I've gathered from you guys, equalism would be a far better name than feminism. Who's with me?

I have to say, I'm not.

This gets suggested a lot. If we could go back in time and ask the very first feminists to call themselves gender equalists instead, maybe that would be a good idea, so we wouldn't have to keep having this conversation. (Sorry, Helio, I don't mean to be short with you, you're great! This is an in-general thing.) It's like "homophobia". It's the word we have. It means something. If English was a perfect block-system, where every group of letters meant the same thing wherever they were used, "homophobia" would mean "fear of things that are the same / gay men" and feminism would mean either "pro women" or possibly "anti women" depending on which way "ism" went. But it doesn't, it means "pro gender equality". People are free to call themselves "egalitarian on gender matters" or "generally egalitarian" or "non sexist" or "anti-sexism" or whatever they like, but the movement is called feminism, and there's no reason to change that. Even if we could. (I'd say if we tried there'd be a split.)

[Asta Kask]

You're kind of ignoring intersexed individuals, and missing the point of genderqueeriosity. :I

~ ♅

I'm genuinely sorry that I forgot them. They get a non-intersexed body of the gender of their choice.

Anyone else that I missed?

Edit: And I didn't do myself because quite frankly a person who had gender dysphoria to deal with together with my depressions probably wouldn't be alive.

Although I'm fairly certain my parents would be supportive, though.

[Mina Kobold]

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Thanks a lot, Keveak. You made nothing worse, on the contrary - your post made me smile

I've been thinking about it, but I have no idea where such groups exist. I'm also a bit hesitant about it because I'm... actually not that good around girls. I tend to be socially clumsy, too logical and all-around blundering.
But it's worth looking into. I wonder if my school has something like this. Seems like it would.

I'm actually looking for blogs and such to educate myself. Do you have any links to spare?

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You're welcome. And thanks to you as well.

I wish I could help, but the best I have figured out about things at my own school is that we seem to have no non-curricular groups advertising themselves. ^_^'

I'm sure a feminist group would be the last place people would care about social awkwardness, though.

I mainly follow Feminist Frequency, Feminist Fatale and the ACA's podcast about feminism (The name uses a term for female dogs, so I don't know if the link works, sorry. m(_ _)m). But I have heard positive things about the Scepchick network as well.

Hi honey I'm hoooooome!

so a certain wonderful lady (and her spouse/hivemind cohabitor) has been telling me that the thread seems to have uh
calmed down from where I left it off and has been nagging me to post so even though I've been watching from the sidelines I feel a bit better posting here now since a lot of the issues I had have made themselves a bit scarce.

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TAKING PHOTOS IN THE BATHROOM MIRROR MAKES ME ARTSY
(I'm the one on the left with the big earring who is just a head)


so I want to yell about stuff and it's irritating so I'm going to spoiler it in a few different sections:
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I hate it so much and it is frigging everywhere how hard is it to not be cissexist really? Normally I can laugh at it but like, the other day for whatever reason I was talking with my mother about something which included me referring very specifically to people with vaginas rather than women since not all women have vaginas and whatnot. Anyway she later "corrected" the word "women" which would have been appropriate to "people with vaginas" which was incredibly genital essenitialist and feels like she was mocking me. Also in this conversation I got laughed at when I said that the majority of people who had vaginas are women. Ugh.

dysphoria ↓

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so a different time to that last conversation a friend's mother referred to me in a group of "the boys" and I almost cried which was nice and I hate this but I feel bad for wishing I was just frigging cis because I feel like I'm being transphobic :(

also I really really want breasts :S
frigging testosterone I mean seriously what is UP with that guy

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I went to my GP and he is quite a good fella, I am on antidepressants now and he referred me to a gender therapist, I don't suppose any UK LGBTA+ers have heard of Bill Brind? If you have, is he any good? Worth a shot asking I guess. I did a little quick googling and there doesn't seem to be much about him online.

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there are some ridiculously bigoted individuals on my course in college and I have to listen to all the awful things they say and all the terrible videos they watch on youtube with such hilarious jokes as homophobia and transphobia and queerphobia and misogyny and rape and also sometimes racism

since they don't listen to me I should probably bring it up with one of my tutors

the thing that pretty much bothers me the most consistently but isn't that big a deal it's just irritating to keep thinking of it ↓

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so like, very nearly everyone looks sweet-ass with short hair but I don't wanna cut my hair because I'm worried it will make it harder for me to be read as female when I actually try presenting so there's that which is ridiculous because WHY IS HAIR LENGTH GENDERED

THAT SHOULD NOT BE A THING WHY IS IT A THING

also there's the fact that if I went to a professional hairdresser I would almost certainly chicken out of telling them that no I am definitely sure I want a "girl's haircut" and to make it look as femmey as possible

these are my problems

A mantra! *Glomp* :3

You look quite well in that picture, although I haven't seen any other one to compare to. Perhaps you look super-groovy in those!

*Hugs* Bigots and cissexism are no fun at all. Hopefully you will find plenty of non-bigots out there. ^_^

Hair Length

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I tried looking it up, apparently short hair became fashionable among men because of the higher taxes on wig powder in 1795 and became more fashionable over time (probably because the nobility began disappearing and practicality became important) until becoming the default due to the trenches of the Great War, where lice was a huge problem. So pretty much because of horrible sexism. ;_;

I will feel better knowing that this idea was partially caused by lead powder, though. X3

That's an accomplishment!

Also thank you so many times for building my self esteem. You are totally awesome. (I'm thinking about possibly saying "no hetero" because I don't think I'm allowed to say "no homo" yea or nay?)

I don't see why you can't say that, it sounds fun.

I would personally go with "no homo Sapiens", but that might not work for you. Perhaps "No homo Erectus"? It could probably even be an innuendo! :3

[pffh]

A quite fun article against the homophobes railing against the gay in Mass effect

Some people are gay in space. Get over it

Video game players can now identify their characters as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Which is wonderful, unless you're a sad homophobe


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...gay-video-game

Obviously you can't fight the big gay penis in your head

[Heliomance]

I have to say, I'm not.

This gets suggested a lot. If we could go back in time and ask the very first feminists to call themselves gender equalists instead, maybe that would be a good idea, so we wouldn't have to keep having this conversation. (Sorry, Helio, I don't mean to be short with you, you're great! This is an in-general thing.) It's like "homophobia". It's the word we have. It means something. If English was a perfect block-system, where every group of letters meant the same thing wherever they were used, "homophobia" would mean "fear of things that are the same / gay men" and feminism would mean either "pro women" or possibly "anti women" depending on which way "ism" went. But it doesn't, it means "pro gender equality". People are free to call themselves "egalitarian on gender matters" or "generally egalitarian" or "non sexist" or "anti-sexism" or whatever they like, but the movement is called feminism, and there's no reason to change that. Even if we could. (I'd say if we tried there'd be a split.)

And yet, you approve of sexualorientationism (the term, not the practise). What am I missing?

[Worira]

Also, frankly, I don't know of too many self-proclaimed feminists who address, say, child custody and support issues.

[KenderWizard]

And yet, you approve of sexualorientationism (the term, not the practise). What am I missing?

You're right. In my head, I like "sexualorientationism" because it fits with the other "ism"s. I don't like the -phobia suffix, or the way "homo" suggests it's only homosexual orientation that's discriminated against. But I don't use "sexualorientationism" outside of here and my own head, because it's not the word! "Feminism" fits in my mad little scheme. If it didn't, I might use "genderequalityism" in my head (and maybe here) but I wouldn't use it generally.

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Maybe I'm also more battered by having this conversation (and usually much less politely). Maybe if it was the first time I was hearing this I'd be like "Yeah, good plan! We're all allies here!". But usually I hear it from people who use the word "feminazi" to be all like "You feminazis wouldn't use 'feminism' if you weren't out to get the menz. You'd use egalitarianism!" or "I'm not like one of those crazy feminazis. I mean, I support women's rights and I hate sexism but I don't use that dirty f-word." or "I believe in equality between the sexes, not that women should be dominant like those crazy feminazis." etc.

I don't think a movement should change itself to please. I'm perfectly happy with individuals or blogs or groups or whatever using "gender equality". I just think "feminism" is a good, strong, important word, that means something, that means this movement, and I'm okay with it suggesting that it leans towards women because - as discussed before - although patriarchy/sexism (like all facets of the kyriarchy) hurts everyone, the brunt historically and still culturally falls on women and men have the "privilege".

[golentan]

A transdimensional warp opens and out steps...

...your Gender Identity twin!

This twin has the same gender identity that you have, but another kind of body. Women's twin has a male body and the other way around. So I would get a trans man. Genderqueer, gender fluid, etc. get a cis of whatever sex they were assigned at birth.

What do you see?

A short haired woman without jewelry or makeup, and wearing comfortable clothing appears in front of me. She seems ambivalent about her gender.

"Hello, golentan."
"Hello, golentan."
"Welp. There are two of us here."
"There sure are."
"And more than one of us in close quarters disrupts reality."
"You know it. Probably the reason for that transdimensional rift."
"Do you want to subsume me, or should I subsume you?"
"Flip a coin?"
"You got it."

PS, good pun. transdimensional.

[Reluctance]

Feminism vs. equalism:

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On the one hand, it'd be nice to see feminists acknowledge that, in retrospect, it is a silly name. On the other, it'd take a significant amount of time and effort to go through and change all the signs and stationary. Which distracts from more productive things.

Besides, changing a name without changing anything else leads to having to cycle through names as the new one picks up the same reputation the old one had. They've already tried slapping on a thin coat of paint at least twice - see "we're third wave, we're not like that anymore". A slightly thicker coat of paint won't change anything if they don't muzzle their extremists and start working out the legacy flaws in their own culture.

[Mina Kobold]

Feminism and gender-neutrality

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Talking about the name, I remember either the Godless Bitches, Natalie Reed or Natalie Reed guest staring on the Godless Bitches mentioning that a lot of people have trouble with seeing "feminism" as a gender-neutral word, but accept plenty of similar things with masculine words (Like "mankind", "Guys" and "brotherhood of Evil Mutants"). It echoes the strange notion in many languages that men are the standard, women are modified men and others are nonexistent. Especially apparent in French, where most substantives are gendered, but any collection of them are referred to with "Ils" (masculine) unless not a single masculine item is present.

Is it reasonable to consider feminism a word that has evolved to do the opposite and be a previously feminine word that turned neutral?

Tl;dr: Words originally referring to femininity seems to be considered always-female, but words originally referring to masculinity are easily considered gender-neutral. Feminism could be an exception to the word-sexism

On a sillier note, I just noticed that my avatar fits nude week without changing anything. Laziness wins yet again!

[Lea Plath]

A quite fun article against the homophobes railing against the gay in Mass effect

Some people are gay in space. Get over it

Video game players can now identify their characters as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Which is wonderful, unless you're a sad homophobe


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...gay-video-game

Charlie Brooker is a legend anyway :P This only reinforces how awesome he is.

Way I see it, the world is getting smaller, people are getting more connected. The people who don't want their children meeting and assosiating with people they find "Undesireable" now have to fight a war on two fronts to keep their children SAFE AND PURE!!!!! So all they are looking to do is make it easier for themselves off.

[WarKitty]

You're right. In my head, I like "sexualorientationism" because it fits with the other "ism"s. I don't like the -phobia suffix, or the way "homo" suggests it's only homosexual orientation that's discriminated against. But I don't use "sexualorientationism" outside of here and my own head, because it's not the word! "Feminism" fits in my mad little scheme. If it didn't, I might use "genderequalityism" in my head (and maybe here) but I wouldn't use it generally.

Further thoughts on this, spoilered for it being me talking about feminism again!

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Maybe I'm also more battered by having this conversation (and usually much less politely). Maybe if it was the first time I was hearing this I'd be like "Yeah, good plan! We're all allies here!". But usually I hear it from people who use the word "feminazi" to be all like "You feminazis wouldn't use 'feminism' if you weren't out to get the menz. You'd use egalitarianism!" or "I'm not like one of those crazy feminazis. I mean, I support women's rights and I hate sexism but I don't use that dirty f-word." or "I believe in equality between the sexes, not that women should be dominant like those crazy feminazis." etc.

I don't think a movement should change itself to please. I'm perfectly happy with individuals or blogs or groups or whatever using "gender equality". I just think "feminism" is a good, strong, important word, that means something, that means this movement, and I'm okay with it suggesting that it leans towards women because - as discussed before - although patriarchy/sexism (like all facets of the kyriarchy) hurts everyone, the brunt historically and still culturally falls on women and men have the "privilege".

I'm curious what you think of "womanism" or "womanist" movements?

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For those not familiar with it, "womanism" was started primarily by black women who were interested in feminism but felt it was too damaged by its associations with upper-class white women's struggles. It tends to focus more on class and race as related to gender than standard feminism does (although standard has increased focus on that).

[Mono Vertigo]

Bleh.
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I have/have had a couple of female friends who emphaticall NEVER WANT KIDS EW NO. And without fail every time it just makes me go WELL AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AND HERE YOU ARE THROWING IT AWAY.

...it upsets me.

(This isn't a rant at you, kender, just it made me think of it. In fact, it's entirely possible I've mentioned this before...)

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Well, I really don't want kids either.

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To be entirely honest, it's also very annoying to be told that I can't possibly have made up my mind yet, or that since I am a woman and have a theoretically functioning womb, I should use it, but well. (Not a rant at you either, Lix Lorn.)

HOWEVER, if I could give away my uterus to someone who wants it more, I'd do it in a heartbeat, trust me. Pregnancy squicks me immensely, I don't like children, my maternal instincts are almost nonexistent, and that organ tortures me from the inside once a month.

[Asta Kask]

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Well, I really don't want kids either.

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To be entirely honest, it's also very annoying to be told that I can't possibly have made up my mind yet, or that since I am a woman and have a theoretically functioning womb, I should use it, but well. (Not a rant at you either, Lix Lorn.)

HOWEVER, if I could give away my uterus to someone who wants it more, I'd do it in a heartbeat, trust me. Pregnancy squicks me immensely, I don't like children, my maternal instincts are almost nonexistent, and that organ tortures me from the inside once a month.

Swedish doctors are performing uterus transplants (with is a cisplant?). But I think we have a long way to go before they start offering them to trans women. Sorry.

[Triscuitable]

I'd react to meeting myself much like how Donut of Red vs. Blue did.

We'd have a lot in common. We might date.

[Lix Lorn]

Me too :c *hugs*

~ ♅

(hugs tight)

Would you have a uterus transplant if it meant you had to go on some serious immuno-suppressive therapy for the rest of your life?

If it would work? In a heartbeat.

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I understand. It's the same for people who are infertile. I know I'm very luckily to have a (so far appearing) functioning uterus. (I'm actually really worried I'm infertile, but I know that's just a niggling worry for me while it's life and forever for other people, so I'm not being all woe-is-me about it, I just want to say that I have some understanding of how upsetting it would be because I know I would be very upset about it). Maybe it would help to think of them as having considered the choice and felt strongly about it and chose not to, rather than them just dismissing their choice? I dunno. Maybe you could become a pioneering uterus transplant surgeon?

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This is a good point, and I should take a moment to say that they're perfectly allowed to make that decision. It's just slightly unpleasant for me when they're like 'Ewww no never.' I mentioned it to them once, and they saw my point, so... bleh. Ranting for no reason really.

A short haired woman without jewelry or makeup, and wearing comfortable clothing appears in front of me. She seems ambivalent about her gender.

"Hello, golentan."
"Hello, golentan."
"Welp. There are two of us here."
"There sure are."
"And more than one of us in close quarters disrupts reality."
"You know it. Probably the reason for that transdimensional rift."
"Do you want to subsume me, or should I subsume you?"
"Flip a coin?"
"You got it."

PS, good pun. transdimensional.

"PSSSST!" says a voice that is CERTAINLY not a Lixie hiding behind a shrub.
"YOU SHOULD MAKE OUT!"

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Well, I really don't want kids either.

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To be entirely honest, it's also very annoying to be told that I can't possibly have made up my mind yet, or that since I am a woman and have a theoretically functioning womb, I should use it, but well. (Not a rant at you either, Lix Lorn.)

HOWEVER, if I could give away my uterus to someone who wants it more, I'd do it in a heartbeat, trust me. Pregnancy squicks me immensely, I don't like children, my maternal instincts are almost nonexistent, and that organ tortures me from the inside once a month.

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(nods) like I said, it wasn't really a rant that was going anywhere. I think at least one of said friends said I could totally have theirs if science worked it out.

Swedish doctors are performing uterus transplants (with is a cisplant?). But I think we have a long way to go before they start offering them to trans women. Sorry.

Between that and Humon, scandinavia is looking pretty awesome. D=

[Asta Kask]

If it would work? In a heartbeat.

If it works on cis women then there's no reason why it wouldn't work on trans women. Birth would probably be by c-section - I'm not sure a neovagina is built to handle that kind of stretching.

You realize you'd never be able to go somewhere where there are crowds, don't you? And that every time you got a cold it would be a potential emergency? Immunosuppresants aren't things to kid around with. Not to dissuade you, but I want you to be certain of what you're signing on for?

[Arachu]

Much as I get annoyed by my genderfluidity, if it were to settle, I think I'd almost prefer it to settle on female. Is that weird?

Probably. Nothing wrong with being a bit weird, though. Quirks give people more depth, and makes 'em more interesting - kind of like they do for art, if that makes any sense.

... Of course, that statement was made by someone who can knee herself in the head...

I think this feminism thing is actually starting to sink into my brain and is even showing up in my gameplay. I'm playing through Final Fantasy V again and it suddenly dawned on me that I'd set the two women in the group as a Knight and a Monk and had the two guys as a White Mage and Thief, in a reversal of traditional roles.

It does make me wonder though - why is it that fantasy roles have always pegged women as squishy (and often scandalously under-dressed) caster times that have to have magic in order to be strong?

We need more Femiknights!

EDIT: .....and the first person to mention the whole "chainmail bikini" thing is going to get a sharp poke from a pointy stick.

I make a lot of Femiknights in things! I also tend to dress my male characters in tight robes and leather.

I'd say Bethesda and Bioware are pretty good about equality (as far as I know), but those are only two groups... We do need more Femiknights!

... And bisexual Elf assassins. ^_^

What? We teach little boys to be tough and self-centred and laugh at them when they model caring behaviours like imagining nurturing baby dolls? We also teach little girls to be "good" and "quiet" and to put others first? And then the girls turn out to be statistically more compassionate and the boys statistically more assertive? Why! It must be Mother Nature's will! It's inherent! Built in! Women are wishy washy empathic nurturers and men are tough scientific fighters.

Thank. You. That rant's been eluding me for years. *fist-bump*

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I'd say Bethesda and Bioware are pretty good about equality (as far as I know), but those are only two groups... We do need more Femiknights!

... And bisexual Elf assassins. ^_^

Why does everyone love that guy? He annoyed the hell out of me. Granted I was romancing Alistair (Alistair <3 Warden for life) and he is just the cutest when he's fumbling around trying to give you a flower but still.

[Lea Plath]

Why does everyone love that guy? He annoyed the hell out of me. Granted I was romancing Alistair (Alistair <3 Warden for life) and he is just the cutest when he's fumbling around trying to give you a flower but still.

It is the accent.