League of Legends XXXIII: Game of Mundo

[Math_Mage]

...I've come to the conclusion that Kayle/Nid is a ridiculously OP lane. Second 4v5 we've won with it:

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So that's Vayne and Kayle I have to learn for AD bot, then.

[Maeglin_Dubh]

Getting back into Dominion, due to time constraints and not really having the time to devote to multiple 40 minute games in a day.

Been derping with whatever champion springs to mind, having success with Kassadin and Fiora in particular. Gangplank has been alright, but the last time I used him we had a DC.

Does anyone put serious thought into Dominion? (Besides Eldariel, I know) Anyone have any tips in particular?

[Silverraptor]

Getting back into Dominion, due to time constraints and not really having the time to devote to multiple 40 minute games in a day.

Been derping with whatever champion springs to mind, having success with Kassadin and Fiora in particular. Gangplank has been alright, but the last time I used him we had a DC.

Does anyone put serious thought into Dominion? (Besides Eldariel, I know) Anyone have any tips in particular?

Well, I have played quite a number of dominion myself. The main thing I figured out is choose very good bot lane champions that will do well top lane mid to late game. If you can win bot, then it doesn't matter if top doesn't get taken in the beginning. Also, bot lane allows you the gratifying concept of farming minions, which you don't get to experience too much by going top. Also, everyone goes top anyways and its hard to find that one player willing to go bot, so take that place instead.

I like karthus, Xer'ath, and Urgot in that order when going bot. I like karthus with his kitting and denying the opponent from farming minions, which is what you're aiming to do when going bot. And then, when you hit level 6, you can assist top with your R when teamfights over the turrets happen. And my mid to late game, thanks to your E, you can go top and become a serious amount of damage since almost all the fights will take place in close quarters.

That said, pushing minions is still good when you are trying to take turrets. If you have enough, then you don't need to focus on the tower, just delay the enemy champion long enough until the minions capture it for you. Also, turn arounds can happen any second. Do not let your guard down until you see the enemy nexus's exploding.

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The stuff in quotes is from the enemy MF, who apparently plays with a "professional" anivia.

[Math_Mage]

Ughhhhhhhh. I never thought I would miss Phreak and Fourcourtjester, but listening to the IPL5 NA qualifier commentators is making my ears bleed.

"Rosewill is forced to respond or they'll just lose more stuff, and you do not want to lose your stuff, your towers, your inhibitors, your stuff, you do not want to lose it, but CLG is just too strong right now."

*cries*

Special mention to the commentator who noted that HSGG was beating the enemy Tryn, but hey! At least the creep wave is at Hotshot's tower and not Tryn's!

[toasty]

It's low brow stuff like this that is beginning to drive me away from the game and think of alternatives like DoTA.

You didn't play the original dota did you? The loading screens were basically porn. There was one in particular where Queen of Pain's entire ass was 100% visible on the screen. There were plenty of others filled with Cleavage and Ass. League of Legends isn't nearly as terrible. Okay, yes, we do have the Slut Goddesses of Assists, etc, but I'd argue that DotA was just as ... terrible.

I swear that I'm giving Riot 5 more champions after Darius. If they don't come up with something other than "Sex Appeal Female Champ", "Generic Male Warrior Champ" or "Rehash of another few previous champs Humanoid Champ", I'm out.

I swear that 99% of the community doesn't care. I'm a tryhard and pretty much there are only a few champions that I enjoy playing because of their appearance: Gangplank, Nautilus, and Warwick. I actually dislike skins like Bunny Girl Riven and Sheriff Caitlyn because... they're kinda disgusting. But apparently I'm a minority there. I just don't play any of those heroes/skins.

Sure if you wanna quit the game, go ahead. Riot doesn't care. They're making a lot of money off of those skins.

I can totally blame Riot. Just because they cave into the community (no matter the size of the actual community slice they catered too) doesn't mean it was a good decision. Things like that are how we ended up seeing Jax mangled beyond what he originally was and other famous nerfs or reworks that ended up not being pleasing or good ideas at all.

You haven't been playing this game for as long as I have, I feel. Riot has does amazingly good things for the community. The game is 100 times more balanced now, despite having nearly 100 champions, than it was when I started playing this game 3 years ago. We haven't had a stupid broken release hero since... Orianna? Rumble? That was a year ago, and both of those heroes were unpopular and stealth OP.

They destroyed Jax because Jax was based on broken, bad, stupid, terrible mechanics. Dodge was the stupidest stat in the game and by the time they removed dodge it only had one, semi-troll viable build anyways which was the dodge mastery, tabi, and dodge runes solo top Singed, etc. It was kinda silly.

Riot is a million times better now. Yes, they still suffer from the "sexy female" thing, but... meh whatever. I don't care. I think most people that dislike these sort of things pretty much are in the same boat as me. Its not a big enough deal to stop playing the game. This is especially true, since, last I checked, heroes like Queen of Pain, Drow Ranger, and others from DotA/DotA2 offer just as much sex appeal as Janna, Sona, etc etc.

[Mutant Bunny]

As far as the skins go, I tend to be more amused by the concepts than the splash art or animation. I'm a cheapskate. I'm not gonna spend much money on LoL (I've bought the rune page set with RP and spent some excess on Definitely Not Blitzcrank), but that won't stop me from being amused by things like bunny girl riven, reverse annie, gentleman cho'gath, and even theoretical skins like pulsefire ezreal (if they ever get around to releasing it) or locomotive singed.

If they released an awesome Trundle skin, I would probably buy it. A cyborg/nanotech Trundle would be fun.

[TechnOkami]

*squint* Oh, so that's who they're basing the new champ off of. Hey guys, he's Guts from Berserk. I'm betting now that he's going to have a Berserker Rage sort of Ultimate, and an ability which allows him to hit multiple people at once, like if he had a Tiamats, but probably @ full damage, maybe.

I am legitimately more excited about this champion now, seeing that he's based off of the main character of my favorite Manga.

P.S. Am I right Rein? I hope I'm right. I really want to be right.

[Winthur]

I swear that 99% of the community doesn't care. I'm a tryhard and pretty much there are only a few champions that I enjoy playing because of their appearance: Gangplank, Nautilus, and Warwick. I actually dislike skins like Bunny Girl Riven and Sheriff Caitlyn because... they're kinda disgusting. But apparently I'm a minority there. I just don't play any of those heroes/skins.

Now that I think about it, isn't there a way to play around with in-game files and just replace the appearance of a chosen skin with whatever you have in stock?

It won't show to anybody but you, so you might as well draw a stickman or import a Chaos Daemon graphic for Riven and you won't ever be exposed to the harmful, disgusting sight that is a computer rendered female human body.

Also, every game I play and I feel like getting cooties from Heartseeker Vayne I just think really hard about toasty* and it works really well for me.

*Won't work if you are toasty.

[Talesin]

I'm starting to come round to support being the most fun role to play. It is frustrating when the guy you play with is awful or when they starting spouting "OP GRAVES!" totally ignoring the fact you set up the kill, warded so they could farm in safety and kept track of the other teams jungler.

However you just get those games, playing as Janna in my case, where you set up 2 kills in lane, ward mid and bot so ganks aren't effective against 2 lanes. Pick up an early oracles and limit their vision, take tower aggro so the ad can tower dive and also turn a 4 man tower dive bot into a 4 for 1 exchange once your mid and jungler turn up bot to save your ass.

Was even better as there was so much negativity at the start of the game from my team regarding their team comp's CC. They were Amumu, Ashe, Taric, Ahri, Riven and I admit they did have strong team fight presence but our Singed and Mundo were so tanky and between us we just allowed Graves and Malz to unleash their damage while staying alive.

[J.Gellert]

I'm starting to come round to support being the most fun role to play. It is frustrating when the guy you play with is awful or when they starting spouting "OP GRAVES!" totally ignoring the fact you set up the kill, warded so they could farm in safety and kept track of the other teams jungler.

However you just get those games, playing as Janna in my case, where you set up 2 kills in lane, ward mid and bot so ganks aren't effective against 2 lanes. Pick up an early oracles and limit their vision, take tower aggro so the ad can tower dive and also turn a 4 man tower dive bot into a 4 for 1 exchange once your mid and jungler turn up bot to save your ass.

Was even better as there was so much negativity at the start of the game from my team regarding their team comp's CC. They were Amumu, Ashe, Taric, Ahri, Riven and I admit they did have strong team fight presence but our Singed and Mundo were so tanky and between us we just allowed Graves and Malz to unleash their damage while staying alive.

Support is a thankless role, and while it doesn't get as much undeserved blame as the jungler, I find it terrible when the supported carry can't handle himself.

Even the best support can't save a useless carry, which ends up with 2 "dead weight" team members instead of one, at least during the laning phase.

[PersonMan]

@Supporting is amazing: Yes.

Recently I've been playing Gropecrank Support Blitzcrank and it's amazing. We win the lane every time...unfortunately that only sometimes means winning the game.

[Talesin]

Support is a thankless role, and while it doesn't get as much undeserved blame as the jungler, I find it terrible when the supported carry can't handle himself.

Even the best support can't save a useless carry, which ends up with 2 "dead weight" team members instead of one, at least during the laning phase.

Depends on how useless the carry is. If he's utterly awful then I can probably save a death or two through good warding and then just try my best to keep him alive during lane duels. If he's only mediocre I can do my best to pull him through the lane as even as possible.

Guess it depends on how good the other AD and support are as well. If my carry's awful and they're playing a kill lane then there's little I can really do. But I can keep him alive a few seconds longer in a team fight and that might be enough to win us the game in the long run. If not i'll just focus my attention on someone who's a little more useful in that game.

Support blitz I find is really hit and miss. He can win lanes and he can win games with 1 grab but I just find laning with him to be a huge pain. I am terrible at playing aggressive ads bot lane though. I can play the support aggressively but I just suck at committing to a fight when i'm trying to last hit.

[J.Gellert]

I find I can never lane with anyone I don't personally know - playing with friends on a lane is fine and fun, and very effective if you have them on Skype, but with strangers? 3d6 brain cells die every round.

Give me mid, or top, or jungle, but not bottom. Never bottom.

[Talesin]

I find I can never lane with anyone I don't personally know - playing with friends on a lane is fine and fun, and very effective if you have them on Skype, but with strangers? 3d6 brain cells die every round.

Give me mid, or top, or jungle, but not bottom. Never bottom.

I find this is actually an attitude I get in most solo queue games. People always want top and mid, occasionally jungle. I should play mid and top more, as they are positions you can carry from, but i'm not sure i'd want to leave my team with a terrible support who starts Dorans and ruins bot lane for our AD carry.

I find most rage in games comes from top lanes and these are usually the people who have called top from the word go and then lose their lane due to over extending and general poor play.

[Karoht]

Had a fantastic turn-around game the other day.

We had lost all 3 lanes, Inhibitors broken, Superminions and all 5 heroes all over the Nexus.
Nexus was left with 1/4 health, but we pushed them out and held on until our Inhibitors were back.
Managed to push back all 3 lanes slowly, over the next 8 minutes.
Popped one inhibitor, then pushed into the base and won it.

Yes, it was bots.
It still felt awesome.

[J.Gellert]

I find this is actually an attitude I get in most solo queue games. People always want top and mid, occasionally jungle. I should play mid and top more, as they are positions you can carry from, but i'm not sure i'd want to leave my team with a terrible support who starts Dorans and ruins bot lane for our AD carry.

I find most rage in games comes from top lanes and these are usually the people who have called top from the word go and then lose their lane due to over extending and general poor play.

I've noticed it too, and also; and the people who play well for themselves rarely rage, even if their team is losing.

[Boowells]

Support blitz I find is really hit and miss. He can win lanes and he can win games with 1 grab but I just find laning with him to be a huge pain. I am terrible at playing aggressive ads bot lane though. I can play the support aggressively but I just suck at committing to a fight when i'm trying to last hit.

Support Blitz I always find is hit and win. Almost every time, I win bot lane, especially thanks to people deciding to start calling mid/top more often. I mean, I get tired of playing support Blitz occasionally, but the people found at bottom now are almost always at the very least semi-competent.

They'll actually react, usually, when I manage to pull a person. So far, I've had the most success with MF+Blitz. I've played several games in that combination so far and it always wins without fail. Even if the Miss Fortune doesn't understand the concept of last-hitting without pushing the lane.

Of course, that doesn't mean I'm not tired of playing Blitzcrank by now. I never get to play mid and top anymore and my skills are suffering.

[PersonMan]

So far, I've had the most success with MF+Blitz. I've played several games in that combination so far and it always wins without fail. Even if the Miss Fortune doesn't understand the concept of last-hitting without pushing the lane.

I was in an MF/Blitz lane as the Blitz a few days ago. It was wonderful, she was 4/0 before we even starting doing lots of damage to their tower.

Of course, then the 10/4 Irelia showed up and destroyed everything...

[Math_Mage]

Blitz and Leona are the kill lane supports of choice, it's true. Though I find Kog/Janna is able to handle the pressure.

[Tergon]

My rune / mastery pages have 'em listed as "Offensive Support" and "Defensive Support" respectively. But playing as a support is probably my favourite thing to do. :)

The offensive ones are generally the tankier champs with plenty of CC. Blitzcrank is king, but an AP Alistair or an Amumu who's anything other than pure tank are great as well. They're the ones who don't get kills but disable the hell out of the enemy and shut down their attacks. Defensive is more the classic support role - Janna, Soraka, Zilean, all the others. Hanging at the back of a teamfight and concentrating on buffing and boosting allies, firing off disabling shots at the enemy when you can but otherwise trying not to get targeted.

Some champs can go into either category depending on how you build them, but either way it's all about strategy and timing and positioning yourself. And at the end a good game means you might have 20-something assists and hardly any kills, but it's just plain fun. And when you save a teammate's life and they thank you, it's all worthwhile. :D My three favourite champs would probably be Blitzcrank, Heimerdinger and Amumu, and it's always fun.

[Mutant Bunny]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/d...noxus-revealed

Darius revealed. His passive is Twitch's, his E is Blitzcrank's Q, and his ult is Akali's. Looks like fun.

[Gauntlet]

His ulti isn't akali's- it only refreshes if you use it to score the killing blow. It's more like Irelia's Q, only it does true damage and only hits champions.

[Dienekes]

Huh, so Darius is pretty much Astaroth.

Cool.

[9mm]

So darius: your cooldowns better be short enough that I can pretend your axe, or my soul will be crushed.

Why oh why must I be subjected too dota to play axe?

[tyckspoon]

True-damage execute/nuke, refreshes when used to kill. Everybody, meet Killsteal, the Killsteal of Killsteal.

(hmm.. Team "So You Thought You Could Tank": Darius, Olaf, Ahri, Vayne or Corki, support of choice. Olaf/Darius in Top/Jungle, pending finding out which position Darius handles better.)

[Zen Master]

Over time, I tend to shift slowly from playing a few select champions - to playing another select few champions - and then forget that I actually had gotten rather good at the first set.

Examples are Shen and Blitz. They are among the first champs I bought, I played both a lot, did well with them - then wanted to try something else.

Months later, I first retried Shen, and got maybe 30 wins out of 40 matches. Now a similar pattern emerges for Blitz.

On the other hand are the champs I consistently fail with: Shaco, Tryndamere, Ryze, Warwick and so on =)

[PersonMan]

(hmm.. Team "So You Thought You Could Tank": Darius, Olaf, Ahri, Vayne or Corki, support of choice. Olaf/Darius in Top/Jungle, pending finding out which position Darius handles better.)

I'd add Cho'Gath, he has his eat-damage nuke.

[TechnOkami]

So, Darius is going to be a melee AD, isn't he?

[Talesin]

I love playing Cho. Playing against chars like Jax or Yorick who get to the point where they can easily overrun or duel other champs and normally come out ahead just can't do that against Cho'gath. He's my go to pick if WW/Jax/Yorick are in top lane and the team needs a tanky champ. Also Wits end on him is the bomb.

I'll probably lose some health during a trade but I can regen it easily enough, can farm really well and if I decide to stand toe to toe when my jungler comes in to gank i'm not just a cc bot as he hits pretty hard.

Almost always requires a flash/good use of an escape ability to get away from Cho.