World of Tanks II: Fighting, Bragging, Raging Edition - All aboard the Lemming Train!

[darksolitaire]

Btw: Anyone know how the T34 (the American Heavy Premium) is? Is it basically just a bigger, slower, harder hitting T29? I'm considering taking the plunge and getting one, as I need credits and it seems like a good way to get them; but it's a pretty sizable real cash investment >.< So I'm hesitant.

I'd suggest trying it out on test server for yourself, that way you can experience the play style and get the feel for the tank. I've tried most tier 8 premiums this way, and I can tell that it's easy to make profit with all of them.

If T34 feels too expensive, Panther M10 and SU-122-44 will be cheaper. Still, I'd try them in test first.

[GloatingSwine]

THat was probably a bad example. My point was that none of the tier V guns I have can reliably penetrate a KV-1, even though I can damage tier VI vehicles easily. I've seen KV-1s repeatedly bounce premium shells that have a minimum pen well above the KV's armor.

Might be a bit of an old point, but it bears returning to.

The appearance of serious heavies marks the shift between just shooting at enemies and shooting at the right part of enemies. Face to face aim for the machinegun in the hull or the driver's viewport (roughly centre front).

Ideally though you should be flanking heavies, at which point the rear half of most of the soviet heavies has weaker side armour than the front half (and on the KV-1 particularly there's a window of thinner armour around where the rear upper guide wheel is. Helpfully, penetrating there will also frequently do engine damage and set the tank on fire.

[Jonzac]

Gloating,

the problem is finding this information, except through repeatedly dying. I know there are skins out there that are horrible, but I don't know of any wiki-type database out there that would let us review and learn those weakspots...
...that said, thanks for the tip, I could use that.

[Renegade Paladin]

On most tanks, especially American ones but true all around, the big thing is don't shoot the turret, it will not work. Note that autoaim aims for the center of the turret. The big exception from the front is the Porsche Tiger, which has beastly hull armor and a paper turret. On most tanks the lower glacis plate is a good general area to aim for, particularly on the higher tier German heavies. A Maus or E-100 is easily penetrable by anything that should be in the same battle with them if you aim for it.

[GloatingSwine]

http://wotguru.com/

Not complete, but does have most of the problem child vehicles.

Knowing this is how I occasionally claimed Tier X heavy scalps in my AMX-12t (usually IS-7s, the weak spot above the tracks is huge and inviting, but I've stuck damage on a Maus with my 75mm pea shooter by aiming at the pimple on the back of the turret)

[Gnoman]

Might be a bit of an old point, but it bears returning to.

The appearance of serious heavies marks the shift between just shooting at enemies and shooting at the right part of enemies. Face to face aim for the machinegun in the hull or the driver's viewport (roughly centre front).

Ideally though you should be flanking heavies, at which point the rear half of most of the soviet heavies has weaker side armour than the front half (and on the KV-1 particularly there's a window of thinner armour around where the rear upper guide wheel is. Helpfully, penetrating there will also frequently do engine damage and set the tank on fire.

When ever possible, I aim for the top of the engine deck, or the front drive wheel (which seems to be an extremely good spot to hit the -1s for some reason.) Any other tank in the tier range, from Churchills to Tigers, I can at least hurt with my tier Vs. KV-1 just seems to be invulnerable.

[mistformsquirrl]

I'd suggest trying it out on test server for yourself, that way you can experience the play style and get the feel for the tank. I've tried most tier 8 premiums this way, and I can tell that it's easy to make profit with all of them.

If T34 feels too expensive, Panther M10 and SU-122-44 will be cheaper. Still, I'd try them in test first.

I was unaware you could try premiums on the Test Server <o.O> I'm going to have to give that a whirl.

[Leon]

I was unaware you could try premiums on the Test Server <o.O> I'm going to have to give that a whirl.

Current test server gives you 20k gold to play with (its the first test since beta i have done so they all may do that)

[Renegade Paladin]

If you're grinding crew on the North American server, get your doubles in this weekend; there's a crew experience bonus as part of the special.

[darksolitaire]

It seems tanks are tougher then Yordles.

I'm referring to WoT winning the Golden Joystick. Bribes and propaganda works, and I'm not complaining.

Edit: special starts 2nd of November, so I'll have time to dump SU-100M1 to make room for some high tier tanks. No way I can elite my Tiger 2, but at least I'll have slot open for VK45P.

[Leon]

They Won the Joystick

[Grif]

Looks like I need to start saving up to get my Obj 212.

[Erloas]

I think I'm going to miss getting the IS by about 3k exp since the deal will end sometime today.
And how long does these Golden Joystick special last? Unless it lasts a while or I do some heavy grinding (which I don't really have time to do) I'm not going to be able to pick up even a single T8.

[Yana]

Welp, looks like I might be expanding my garage finally. Not to mention adding an E-50 and possibly an American medium to the fold.

[darksolitaire]

And how long does these Golden Joystick special last? Unless it lasts a while or I do some heavy grinding (which I don't really have time to do) I'm not going to be able to pick up even a single T8.

They'll put normal few day special from second to fifth day. And it's tier 7 artillery and tier 9 tanks and tank destroyers which are discounted.

Also, SEA is the odd server of wot other servers are having tank prices dropped to their previous tier equivalent, while SEA has straight 30% discount.

[mistformsquirrl]

I just had the saddest, most ridiculous thing happen to me earlier. I can't believe it honestly.

I lost a fight with a KV-1 and an M10... while I was driving a T20 fully upgraded.

Now I grant you - I was at half health when the fight started; but how in crap's name does a KV-1 bounce a 160 penetration gun *3 times*?! I'm kinda dumbfounded. I will grant I did have some spectacular bad luck there too - I had my tracks shot off twice in rapid succession so I couldn't move, and the M10 just kept peppering me from out of visual range while the KV-1 kept me tracked and busy.

Just... ouch, my pride.

[Jonzac]

KV-1 sometimes sport the ARMOR of DOOM. I don't understand...but then I've bounced 88L71 shells off the side turret armor of a T-50-2 before so what do I know.

[Suichimo]

KV-1 sometimes sport the ARMOR of DOOM. I don't understand...but then I've bounced 88L71 shells off the side turret armor of a T-50-2 before so what do I know.

I feel your pain. I've bounced BL-10 shots off of them, don't think I've managed it with the M64 yet though.

[psilontech]

I've had fully upgraded E-75 and M103 tier nines bounce off of my ELC AMXs piddly 12 armor before. Occasionally the armor penetration code gets a wild hair up its bum.

In other news, now that I've figured out that I shouldn't play the KV-4 as a front-line brawler, things are working out better than expected. It's hard to hit my numerous weakpoints from 250+ meters. What's that, Mr. Tier IX, you feel like giving me steel wall? Why, thank you!

[Grif]

I've had fully upgraded E-75 and M103 tier nines bounce off of my ELC AMXs piddly 12 armor before. Occasionally the armor penetration code gets a wild hair up its bum.

In other news, now that I've figured out that I shouldn't play the KV-4 as a front-line brawler, things are working out better than expected. It's hard to hit my numerous weakpoints from 250+ meters. What's that, Mr. Tier IX, you feel like giving me steel wall? Why, thank you!

A series of lucky hits always seem to damage the gun though. I have no idea why the KV-4 gun is so fragile. Something to do with the really long barrel I bet.

EDIT: Speaking of Steel Wall, I got Steel Wall on my T-43.

[Elm11]

I've had fully upgraded E-75 and M103 tier nines bounce off of my ELC AMXs piddly 12 armor before.

To be fair, for all the frustration that moments like this cause, we rarely notice when we're on the serendipitous receiving end of these inexplicable glitches. A few days back my PzIV bounced a shot from a Su-152 off it's rear armour, to many calls of hacks and rage.

[Deadmeat.GW]

Yup, the random when it goes for us is so much difficult to remember...

Lowe...steel wall and facehugging a T95 to death...

He started at 100% life, my poor Lowe had 480 hit points left...

3 minutes later burning T95 and many, many, many catcalls to him from his team mates claiming he was incompetent...

Rammer, full 100% crew and it took me 3 minutes of carefull aimed shots to kill it from the front...

[darksolitaire]

Ok, so who was the developer that had the bright idea of making 40mm autocannons with ~200 damage burst readily available for low tiers? And 70 alpha damage weapons?

So yeah, I've been playing British tanks.

[mistformsquirrl]

Yup, the random when it goes for us is so much difficult to remember...

Lowe...steel wall and facehugging a T95 to death...

He started at 100% life, my poor Lowe had 480 hit points left...

3 minutes later burning T95 and many, many, many catcalls to him from his team mates claiming he was incompetent...

Rammer, full 100% crew and it took me 3 minutes of carefull aimed shots to kill it from the front...

That's impressive as heck though, T95s are nasty unless you can block em from the backside. (That's my favorite tactic against non-turreted TDs. Drive up behind them, parallel park on their backside and then start shooting while they try in vain to back up or turn.)

[Grif]

That's impressive as heck though, T95s are nasty unless you can block em from the backside. (That's my favorite tactic against non-turreted TDs. Drive up behind them, parallel park on their backside and then start shooting while they try in vain to back up or turn.)

Agreed.

Still waiting for my download to finish. Churchills, here I come!

[Leon]

4 Battles in my Cromwell and already have 2 Kamikazes (1375 & Panther)

[Renegade Paladin]

I'll have to break my USA only rule to fulfill my quest to have ALL the Shermans now. Oh well.

[mistformsquirrl]

Been playing the Brits a fair bit today... so far it's been a lot of fun, but I'm honestly dreading getting the Covenanter, because everything about it screams "Pz38na" at me; and I really, really don't want to run through that kind of grind again.

That said, I'll do it if I have to, because I love the way the medium line looks overall for the Brits < . .>

[darksolitaire]

Been playing the Brits a fair bit today... so far it's been a lot of fun, but I'm honestly dreading getting the Covenanter, because everything about it screams "Pz38na" at me; and I really, really don't want to run through that kind of grind again.

Covenanter is fairly better, it has normal medium tank match making, which counts for a lot. The stock weapon for Covenanter is also better then what Na gets, I'm running mine with 10 premium shells for tier 5 heavies. I soloed Crusader on Covenanter yesterday, so I'm half a tier ahead on my goal to get tech mastery for British. Planning on getting Crusader and Churchill this weekend.

I just bought T30, VK45P, AMX 50 120, GW Tiger and Object 212. I don't usually run this many high tier tanks on same time, but can't resist the bargain.

[mistformsquirrl]

Normal matchmaking is good... that'll make life much, much easier. I was just getting worried when I saw the high tier radio and mediocre weapon I guess. (I think I'm one of the few people who isn't enamoured of the autocannons - I like the idea of them, but in practice aiming them at anything beyond point blank is tough.)