Girl Genius XIII: "Gott's Leedle Feesh in Trousers!"

[HandofShadows]

Actually he is gripping her upper arms. This greatly restricts how much she can move her arms.

[memnarch]

Actually he is gripping her upper arms. This greatly restricts how much she can move her arms.

Until Agatha throws his grip off; she's got much better leverage like that. Unless, of course, 'Gil' has a ton more upper body strength.

[Traab]

Until Agatha throws his grip off; she's got much better leverage like that. Unless, of course, 'Gil' has a ton more upper body strength.

Dude hurled a giant clank bare handed with a bullet wound in his shoulder. If he had to be, he could restrain her easily.

[eee]

Getting in close is a good idea. It really limits what Der Kastel can do since it could easily hit Agatha. If it is Gil, the only way Agatha will be able to do any real damage is if Gil lets her do it because he does want to hurt her. (Sorry folks Agatha has lerned to fight some, but she is no where near the level Gil has demonstrated when he is seriouse) Gil should have protected himself from the effects of his stick, so that is not an option either.

Back shortly after they first met, Violetta had Agatha wrapped up from behind and a knife at her throat, and der Kestel swatted her away without hurting either of them. It is a bad idea to underestimate what Castle Heterodyne can do. Even on a rain slick roof.

Why Gil is doing what he is doing is still the big question.

I still don't think this is Gil...

[HandofShadows]

Until Agatha throws his grip off; she's got much better leverage like that. Unless, of course, 'Gil' has a ton more upper body strength.

Gil is holding Agatha up in the air. She has no leverage at all.

[Turalisj]

Back kick, groin.

[memnarch]

Gil is holding Agatha up in the air. She has no leverage at all.

Lift arms sideways away from the body. "Gil's" grip, since it doesn't go all the way around agatha's arms, then slips off as she drops down. Exception, "Gil" has excellent finger strength.

[The Glyphstone]

It's the Standard Female Grab Area. Will the trope be upheld or subverted?

[petersohn]

It's the Standard Female Grab Area. Will the trope be upheld or subverted?

It was just a matter of time until someone brought up this, I knew.

[Traab]

But keep in mind, THIS is an upper arm grab by a guy capable of flinging giant clanks around! He could probably shatter her arm just by clenching.

[Turalisj]

And Agatha is no slouch physically either, remember.

[Aquillion]

Gil could be demonstrating that he's not under Agatha's control. After all, he's not exactly using the big guns here.

[Qwertystop]

Has she actually flat-out sparky-voice definitely-an-order ordered him to do anything yet? He could be trying to get her to do that to prove it. Which wouldn't work if she was knocked out.

[Stabbey]

Back kick, groin.

Sure, that could work, as could any number of things... but they're on a rain-slick roof. This is not the place for a knock-down fight, because there's a lot more "down."

[Thomar_of_Uointer]

Gil could be demonstrating that he's not under Agatha's control. After all, he's not exactly using the big guns here.

Has she actually flat-out sparky-voice definitely-an-order ordered him to do anything yet? He could be trying to get her to do that to prove it. Which wouldn't work if she was knocked out.

Oooooh, that makes a lot more sense. I'm leaning towards this theory now.

Perhaps Gil has told a few of his trusted friends what he thinks is going on, and he's telling them to watch him closely to prove that Agatha isn't the Other.

[petersohn]

No spark voice, but there is a definite order here.

[Landis963]

Spark-voice has its own font first, before the speech bubble goes wavy. "You stay where you are" is in spark-font, while her questions in the panel in the other corner of that page are in normal-font.

[HandofShadows]

Does not matter if Agatha is speaking in sparky voice or not. Any verbal command will be followed.

[Traab]

Does not matter if Agatha is speaking in sparky voice or not. Any verbal command will be followed.

Yeah, the only real question is, can a full on spark running person resist a command while in said state?

[Qwertystop]

Does not matter if Agatha is speaking in sparky voice or not. Any verbal command will be followed.

Actually, it was said several times when the whole thing was being investigated that Agatha doesn't sound exactly like her mother but it's closer when she's sparky.

[HandofShadows]

But the Baron and all most wasped individuals are imprinted with Agatha's voice, not her mothers.

[Landis963]

But the Baron and all most wasped individuals are imprinted with Agatha's voice, not her mothers.

The wasps are designed to respond to the Other's voice. Only Lucrezia and the "vessels" (and Clankrezia) have the requisite Spark-voice harmonics to command the revenants (see also: The Socket Wench of Prague).

[Qwertystop]

But the Baron and all most wasped individuals are imprinted with Agatha's voice, not her mothers.

Actually...

No, it's completely the other way around, isn't it?

[petersohn]

Well, Lu was in Agatha's body when she ordered Klaus around. And in a calm tone, not in a sparky one.

[Fortuna]

No spark voice, but there is a definite order here.

And he follows it for several pages, unfortunately.

[NEO|Phyte]

And he follows it for several pages, unfortunately.

Luckily the very next page she gives an order that he very much doesn't follow.

[datalaughing]

The wasps are designed to respond to the Other's voice. Only Lucrezia and the "vessels" (and Clankrezia) have the requisite Spark-voice harmonics to command the revenants (see also: The Socket Wench of Prague).

Even Anevka's clank body adjusted to sound like Agatha (before the head was replaced with RoboLu) was able to order all the geisters but Vrin to instantly go to sleep. It doesn't work on Vrin because she says that "voice alone" is not enough for her. So clearly Agatha doesn't need to be sparked out to give orders to revenants.

[Landis963]

Even Anevka's clank body adjusted to sound like Agatha (before the head was replaced with RoboLu) was able to order all the geisters but Vrin to instantly go to sleep. It doesn't work on Vrin because she says that "voice alone" is not enough for her. So clearly Agatha doesn't need to be sparked out to give orders to revenants.

I think it has something to do with the personal willpower and desires of each revenant; The revenant (either Vg or Rovainen, can't remember which one was wasped) who activated the hive engine on Castle Wulfenbach waaayyyy back in the second story arc responded to nothing more than an irritated "Don't you have something to do?" Vrin knew that Anevka was an imposter, as she knew that Agatha was an "imposter" when not controlled by Lu, and so was highly motivated to resist the instructions coming from those sources.

EDIT:

Well, Lu was in Agatha's body when she ordered Klaus around. And in a calm tone, not in a sparky one.

Nope. Look closer. "Silence!", Lu's first order to Klaus, is in spark-font. However, that does prove that level 1 spark-voice (wavy speech-bubbles would be level 2 or higher) is sufficient to control a spark-revenant.

[Qwertystop]

The revenant (either Vg or Rovainen, can't remember which one was wasped) who activated the hive engine on Castle Wulfenbach waaayyyy back in the second story arc responded to nothing more than an irritated "Don't you have something to do?"

Actually, it was probably the "Then GO DO IT."

[Eldan]

Hm. The comic is going slowly again. I think I'll put it back on slow schedule. (I.e. open it once every other month or so and read two dozen pages at a time).