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2012-08-31, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
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2012-08-31, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
Got my Kozilek, Butcher of truth and Emrakul the Aeons torn in the mail today. Using them in a casual eldrazi deck. Wish I had another sol ring and two more Palladium myrs for the deck though.
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2012-08-31, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
The promo is 1) most certainly a rare and 2) the rare (or one of them...) in your in your Guild Pack. I say one of them because they could replace the "basic land." (Why not?) If they gave everyone a game-breaking Mythic, well that will just be really annoying. I hope they don't give out the Guild Leaders since that would reduce the value of opening one yourself, but you never know, I guess.
Fortunately, I can now show my true colors! Izzet forever! By the way, the quiz was very, very predictable, to the point that I could almost pick exactly which questions pointed to which guilds.
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2012-08-31, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
What it means is that after spoilers are up one is going to get identified as the Elesh Norn equivalent of the five, about 80% of the base is going try and pick that as their faction. 15% is going to aim for what they consider the counter to that one will be. And about 60% of the people are going to whine that they got shafted because they didn't get a chance to claim the "good" promo.
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2012-08-31, 10:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
My Return to Ravnica set review continues!
First Installment:http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...&postcount=514
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Wow. Unleash does not strike me as good. I suppose if they undercosted it, it could be not awful, but it seems to work best in an aggro deck. You know, the kind of deck that won't use regenerate.
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2012-08-31, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
Soirce: Merely my imagination ;) That is, if you wanted a source on the matter of what the promo will be. They don't want to give mythics away as promo, because of value issues, so it will be a rare. The guild champions would fill the bill as a splashy, most likely not too overpowered card. But, just speculation. It is also possiblet the promo will be a multi land or some kind of mana fixer artifact (you saw that Mox-like artwork on mtgsalv?).
foeofthelance, where are the remaining -65%? :) Keep in mind, this is not confirmed, just my idea about the promo. If they came up with the idea of a playable promom and the guild pack early enough, they probably had enough put into balancingnthemmin Development. Or so do I hope..
Do you people have any other idea what the promo may be? Maybe someone who saw the original Ravnica block? The promo must be splashy, (rare,) exciting and showcase the guild. Guild mages would almost fit the bill, except for being rare and splashy..Playing Magic? Interested in trading? Try Pucatrade!
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2012-09-01, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
Sorry, breakdown should look like this:
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80% Looking for "Good" promo
15% Looking for "Counter" promo/guild
5% "Sweet! Prerelease! Huh, metagame what now?"
Actual Prerelease
25% will manage to get their desired prerelease (factoring for Vorthos)
15% will get the "counter" they wanted
60% will whine about the first 25% getting what they were "supposed" to get, and complain that the 15%ers were stoopid over powered broken haxxors.
I wonder if the lack of sleep makes me extra cynical...Basilisk 6Pilot of the Thing
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2012-09-01, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
I just don't like bombs in Limited and wish it was more about building to synergy and stuff. I'm sure I'll enjoy beating people with a low curve and 2/1s for 2 while they try to cast their 7-mana rares, though.
Also, amusing note on the wording of a preview card:
SpoilerThe way the Unleash reminder text looks, it appears that if the creature gets a +1/+1 counter from ANYTHING, it will be unable to block. Including Scavenge. I assume we'll have to wait for the FAQ to be completely sure, but that could be a hilarious trick-play in the Rakdos vs. Golgari match.
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2012-09-01, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-01, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
Quick question. I heard there is a red creature that double all damage dealt by instants and sorcery. What is it?
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2012-09-01, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
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2012-09-01, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
indeed it is. Thank you!
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Deathwatch Characters
Sven Carlson, Alistayr
Tristan Weylin, Mikael
Master of the Forge, Hephaestus Faust, Gwain
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2012-09-01, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
Well, looks like there are quite a few more spoilers now! WARNING: REALLY LARGE PICTURES INSIDE.
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Yep. This guy is definitely gonna get played. Not sure yet how relevant all his abilities are, but I'm definitely going to be interested to see this guy in action. I am certain he will be highly overrated for a long time, though.
This card is probably quite a bit better than I would guess at first look. Keep track of this one, I think.
Kaboom. Such a good card.
Huh. Interesting. I'll be looking for this to do some work with Exalted.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No but seriously, I suspect this card won't be very good. Though I suppose playable in Limited as it could get out of hand quickly.
Well if anyone doubted that the charms would be played in Constructed, may I present Azorious Charm?
YES! FINALLY! DOUBLING SEASON HURRAH!
Awesome card. Much more powerful than I would guess just by looking.
The Guildmages are all going to be unreal in Limited, I can already tell.
Now this is quite the X spell.
This card is going to be far better than it looks. I imagine this card enables some kind of silly 5-color good-things deck. Keep it in mind when brewing.
And we'll end this session with the cards everyone actually cares about.
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2012-09-01, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
We have our prerelease promos
(large images abound)
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As much as I love Izzet, I will probably try and grab Azorius at the prerelease, because I'm pretty sure that's the best bomb. (Detain is absolutely sick in limited)Thanks Uncle Festy for the wonderful Ashling Avatar
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2012-09-01, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, rather than use the uncropped oversized images, you could use the ones already up on the mothership. Including a few that you missed...
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2012-09-01, 11:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-02, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-02, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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huh, now this is interesting, I wonder what the story line is given how much we're seeing of various guild mechanics being great with off guild colors. See pack rat and G/W populate. Also according to non-mothership, this set has a second set of duel mana producers called gates. on a side note Blue/white's mechanic annoys me already.Last edited by 9mm; 2012-09-02 at 11:03 AM.
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2012-09-02, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerThe mechanics should be designed to at least play well with other cards. A couple of the Detain cards can pull some amusing tricks with all the flickering we got in the last set. Which is pretty cool, since it's all in Blue and White. Scavenge plays well with self-mill. Izzet's spell-based mechanics play pretty well with Flashback, even if Overload doesn't. Populate plays well with just about every token strategy ever, so much so that it'd be difficult for it not to overlap in some places. Rakdos's mechanic pairs well with that guy that doubles +1/+1 counters.
The guilds have to work well together for an additional reason: we have to play with all of them eventually.
Edit: Also, just remembered how bad Intimidate is in a multicolored set. I guess the Korozda Guildmage is going to be a bit worse, then.
And a final note from looking; I think they reused 1 basic land art for each type from Ravnica: City of Guilds. Someone may want to check on that, but they look startlingly similar. It's always the second land by Richard Wright.
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2012-09-02, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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RAVNICA
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Did someone say...BURRRRRRNNIIINNNG VEENNNNNGEANNCE! But seriously, with this guy, the other izzet goblin, and Teferi Dragon, this deck is going to be insane. And I want it.Last edited by Silverlich; 2012-09-02 at 01:31 PM.
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2012-09-02, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
I'm really torn about which guild I'm going to play for this set. I'm liking the Azorius mechanic, but the Izzet have a Hypersonic Dragon. Not a sonic dragon, not a supersonic dragon, but a Hypersonic Dragon. (Also, a huge amount of really strong synergy between cards)
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2012-09-02, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
"Three blokes walk into a pub. One of them is a little bit stupid, and the whole scene unfolds with a tedious inevitability." - Bill Bailey
Androgeus' 3 step guide to Doctor Who speculation:
Spoiler- Pick a random character
- State that person is The Rani
- goto 1
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2012-09-02, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-02, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ravnica:
SpoilerJudge's Familiar seems too strong to me. It's taking a Cursecatcher, letting you play it with Blue or White, and then giving it flying on top of that. And Cursecatcher is already a pretty good card.
It's one of those cards where I feel if they had just dialed it back a little it'd be fine, e.g. if it was only Blue or was only White, or if they removed the flying, or if they removed the other ability. But I'm not really a fan of this kind of blatant power creep.
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2012-09-02, 09:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-02, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-02, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
SpoilerJudge's Familiar seems fine but it's not a card that I'm all that worried about. There are plenty of really good creatures that will make their way into decks, and I don't mind a card that gives Bonfire of the Damned the finger as long as it's in play. A 1/1 flier is nice, but the body isn't relevant without ways to pump it up. I don't see it as power-creep, I see it as something entirely different.
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2012-09-03, 01:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-09-03, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Magic: The Gathering Thread XIV: Instant Annoying, Just Add Hexproof
SpoilerIf you play Familiar on turn 1 it significantly weakens Bonfire's ridiculously overpowered tendencies. If I lead Familiar into a 2-toughness creature and a 3-toughness creature (not implausible), a miracled Bonfire will have no effect for the first 3 turns, which are the turns in which it has the most absurd value. From then on it is little value for you to leave up a counterspell for it in the future (and I can't imagine you won't have at least 1 option in that department). It also becomes much weaker if it's in their hand, as for most reasonable values it is now 1 more mana which is a huge investment. This is not an insignificant cost, ESPECIALLY if you yourself are playing Bonfires, which is not unreasonable as Izzet is one of the Return to Ravnica guilds.
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2012-09-03, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yay Ravnica!
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Now presenting...Maro and the Amazing Technicolor Streetlight!! It was red, and white and green and black and blue...
Also:
He rides across the nation, the thoroughbred of sin...Last edited by Silverlich; 2012-09-03 at 03:43 PM.